The Actual Delta Force

kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
edited August 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">How good do you suppose they are?</div> I was watching this documentary on the true story behind black hawk down, and was wondering if these so called non-existant group of soldiers are good as they mysteriously sound.

Does anyone have any information on these 1337 soldiers?
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  • I_LiKe_DuCkSI_LiKe_DuCkS Join Date: 2004-02-08 Member: 26222Members
    They will kick your ****..
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    edited August 2004
    They're good, trust me. Lets leave it at that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    it's a small portion of the Army devoted to counterterror and short-term specops. they're numbered around 3000, supposedly, so i guess they make it count.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta (SFOD-D)

    Combat Applications Group (CAG), Delta Force

    The U.S. Army’s 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (SFOD-D) is one of two of the U.S. government’s principle unit tasked with counterterrorist operations outside the United States (the other being Naval Special Warfare Development Group). Delta Force was created by U.S. Army colonel Charles Beckwith in 1977 in direct response to numerous, well-publicized terrorist incidents that occurred in the 1970s. From its beginnings, Delta was heavily influenced by the British SAS, a philosophical result of Col. Beckwith’s year-long (1962-1963) exchange tour with that unit. Accordingly, it is today organized into three operating squadrons, all of which (A, B, and C) are subdivided into small groups known as troops.  It is rumored that each troop, as the case with the SAS, specializes in HALO, SCUBA, or other skill groups.  These troops can each be further divided into smaller units as needed to fit mission requirements. Delta also maintains support units which handle selection and training, logistics, finance, and the unit’s medical requirements. Within this grouping is a little known, but vital technical unit which is responsible for covert eavesdropping equipment for use in hostage rescues and similar situations.

    The unit is headquartered in a remote section of the U.S. Army’s sprawling Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Reports of the compound indicate that no expense has been spared, including numerous shooting facilities (both for close quarters battle and longer range sniping), an Olympic-sized swimming pool, dive tank, and a three-story climbing wall. Yet, as lavish as these accouterments may seem, they all serve vital roles in training counterterrorists. As units such as Delta do not get to choose when and where they will be needed. As such, they must train for any eventuality. These skills are enhanced by the unit's participation in an ongoing exchange and training programs with foreign counterterrorist units, such as (as might be expected) Britain's 22 SAS, France's GIGN, Germany's GSG-9, Israel's Sayeret Matkal/Unit 269, and Australia's own Special Air Service Regiment. Such close cooperation with other groups provides innumerable benefits, including exchanges of new tactics and equipment as well as enhancing relations that might prove useful in later real-world operations.

    Delta troopers are also equipped with the most advanced weaponry and equipment available in the U.S. special operations arsenal. A significant portion of their gear is highly customized and cannot be found anywhere but in Delta’s lockers. An early example of this was a specially-constructed HAHO parachute rig which were been adapted to permit jumpers to keep their hands at their sides during the descent rather than above their heads. This alteration prevents the loss of functioning which can occur as a result of prolonged flight time in such an unnatural position.

    The vast majority of the unit operatives come from the United States’ elite Ranger battalions and Special Forces groups, however candidates are drawn from all branches of the Army, including the Army Reserve and National Guard. Those initially selected are usually chosen in one of three ways. The first of these is in response to advertisements posted at Army bases across the country. The second method is by word-of-mouth, or personal recommendation from sources whose opinions are important to Delta screeners. Finally, on occasion the unit will require the skills of individuals who might not fall into one of the first two categories. If, in the instance that Delta’s commanders feel that an individual would make a valuable addition to the team (for example someone who speaks an obscure language or possesses hard-to-come by technical skills), a representative from Delta will be dispatched specifically to interview that person.

    Real world examples of some missions with which Delta is tasked are represented below:

    1979 - Worked with the FBI at the Pan American Games in Puerto Rico as part of an anti-terrorist team set up to anticipate possible terrorist activity at the event.

    1983 - Participated in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada, including the air assault of Richmond Hill prison to free as well as assisting in the seizure of a key airfield.

    1984 - Deployed to the Middle East in response to the hijacking of a Kuwaiti Airlines airliner, during which two Americans were killed.

    1985 - Again deployed in response to a hijacking, this time to Cyprus in anticipation of an assault on a seized TWA airliner.

    1987 - Sent to Greece to secure U.S. Army Col. James "Nick" Rowe in response to reports that Vietnamese communist agents were planning an action against him.

    1989 - Successfully rescued an imprisoned U.S. citizen during the opening minutes of Operation Just Cause in Panama and participated in the widespread search for Gen. Manuel Noriega and his advisors.

    1991 - Deployed to the Gulf in 1991, both to serve as bodyguards for senior U.S. officers and, later, as part of a massive effort to locate and destroy mobile SCUD launchers in Iraq’s northern deserts.

    1993 - As part of Task Force Ranger, took part in numerous operations to apprehend warlord Mohamad Farah Aidid in Mogadishu, Somalia.

    1997 - Small advance team sent to Lima, Peru immediately following the takeover of the Japanese Ambassador's residence in January 1997 along with six members of the British SAS.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    from specialoperations.com
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    then again, the two USMC FAST companies together are only 600+ guys <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (that's what i signed up for <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Aug 1 2004, 08:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Aug 1 2004, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The whole post <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's not even the half of it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    /me could go out on a limb and guess that Ren was a Delta, omg teh sekrat is out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Aug 1 2004, 08:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Aug 1 2004, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> /me could go out on a limb and guess that Ren was a Delta, omg teh sekrat is out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Was?
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Posts: <b>1349</b>

    Doubtful.
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 1 2004, 08:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 1 2004, 08:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Posts: <b>1349</b>

    Doubtful. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1350 posts since March 29, 2002. That's an aweful lot of time to make 1350 posts (makes you wonder how many are spam posts).
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Heh, okay then. Prove that you're a Delta Force member.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    If ever joined the army I'd be a renegade cook with duel usp match. !!!GOGOGO.

    No really. Hey zig, what exactly is USMC FAST?? I R NUB

    Oh. I bet there are really secret secret ex delta force agents on the run around here, dong kerzy stuff we don't hear about, much like what happened inside the office when monica and bill did...uh.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    my bad, Ren. once a Marine, always a Marine... i suppose that works with Delta too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Kida, USMC FAST = United States Marine Corps Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team

    trained in CQB, land/sea raids, and lots of other stuff.. verrrry job specific specops team.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Aug 1 2004, 11:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Aug 1 2004, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Aug 1 2004, 08:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Aug 1 2004, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The whole post <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's not even the half of it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 1 2004, 08:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 1 2004, 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, okay then. Prove that you're a Delta Force member. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who said I was? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> SF operators don't give out information like that. Same reason we don't release the names of our members to the public.
  • DivWDivW Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17640Members
    I would guess the Delta Force or Navy Seals (or the other well known SAS from the UK) aren't the best in the world (note: I don't say they suck).
    I say this because I regularly hear something about them and that is not the point of such elite groups, it's a better sign if you never ever hear about one of those groups for obvious reasons.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Aug 2 2004, 01:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Aug 2 2004, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who said I was? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> SF operators don't give out information like that. Same reason <b>we</b> don't release the names of our members to the public. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    You suck at secrets.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    *pokes Rengade* Ranger material for sure <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    This reminds me of the King of the Hill where dale is all "you don't want THEY hearing you.." and the FBI agent is all "Sir, we are THEY." and dale is all "YEAGH!"
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Aug 2 2004, 01:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Aug 2 2004, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Aug 1 2004, 08:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Aug 1 2004, 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heh, okay then. Prove that you're a Delta Force member. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who said I was? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> SF operators don't give out information like that. Same reason we don't release the names of our members to the public. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OOOOooooooh, smooth. Don't believe you.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OOOOooooooh, smooth. Don't believe you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He's not lying.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Burncycle+Aug 2 2004, 01:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Aug 2 2004, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OOOOooooooh, smooth. Don't believe you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He's not lying. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, I believe the statement that real Delta Force members don't give out that sort of information. I just don't believe he's a member of the Delta Force.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2004
    He never said he was, read more carefully.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    it's not always true that the "best in the business" don't release their information. i forgot where i kept that bookmark, but there's a page where Marine Corps Snipers can register their info, sort of an online roster where you can check who's bullsh*ing and who's the real thing. it's pretty cool, actually.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited August 2004
    Well, Renegade has already mentioned in the past that he's a ranger (which ARE considered special forces), but there are some things he's not going to say for OPSEC reasons

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->it's not always true that the "best in the business" don't release their information. i forgot where i kept that bookmark, but there's a page where Marine Corps Snipers can register their info, sort of an online roster where you can check who's bullsh*ing and who's the real thing. it's pretty cool, actually. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah I've heard of that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> Even they won't release some info though.

    This is especially apparent in israel. I'm friends with some of the IDF members and they're VERY tight when it comes to OPSEC, and I don't blame them a bit.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    really depends on the situation, i suppose.

    i can imagine that there are quite a few Snipers out there who've participated in some secretive stuff (like our good pal Ren) and thusly can't speak much of their service <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    assassinating the president and what not... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    what's to consider is that they're just people like you and me, but trained to ridiculous levels. if you want to see how good these people are, look at the training levels, not the records of what they've done.

    and what's the point of doing all this stuff if you can't go on internet forums and talk about how you slaughtered an insurgent militia squadron in a 3 day stand off in the afghanistan mountains.. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    self-fulfillment at fulfilling your role as a warrior to the best of your ability <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Get and read the Book


    <u>Delta Force</u> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    its writtian by Col. Charles A. Beckwith himself, Delta Forces first commander.
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