Lets Change Things
Bigfonzie
Join Date: 2004-03-14 Member: 27328Members
Join Date: 2004-03-14 Member: 27328Members
<div class="IPBDescription">lets bring back 1.04 ns</div> im not going to say alot about how 1.04 was the best ns version to date and how newer versions have ripped the real soul out of ns, but what i will say is that we wont change things or bring back the old ns 1.04 soul into newer versions unless we all start telling the game makers (gods tho they are) that they are destroying the greatest game ever made (1.04) . hey lets stop talking about how old ns versions where better and whats the diffrences between them all, lets email the creators,post in the forums our real WANT for ns to change back to its purist fps/rts roots. if not it wont happen! and ns may change into just another game.
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my 2 pennehs
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That really would be such a shame.
For the newer folks who never got a chance, imagine how much it sucks when marines get a 2-hive lockdown now, and all you have are weak-**** onos and fades, and then just remove the onos and fades, because you cant get them.
And thats just the main problem if ALL you did was revert to the hive-dependency system.
If you brought back all the old bugs, jesus, it would a fricken ****storm. Onos with ridiculous buggy hit box, people with good video cards and higher fps literally just being faster, stronger, and better than those with lower-end systems. Infinite JP fuel. Siege cannons....okay I will admit I'd like the old uber sieges back but I'm an old school comm at heart so forgive me on that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> But bunnyhopping marines, crazy knockback(of course that somehow was brought back in for whatever reason) COMPLETLEY RIDICULOUS CROUCHED HITBOX, buggy buggy buggy command interface, no electricity, like using the shotgun? Its crap, sorry. Like bein the grenadier for the team? It to is crap except for strangley bizzare ridiculous situations. The only weapon worth anything is the HMG, it is the swiss army knife of the kharaa apocalypse, it slices dices cleans your clothes does your homework sings you to sleep picks up your dry cleaning does the dishes never has a headache and can double as a kitchen sink with the Mk.II modification.
Oh yes and resource caps for Aliens., thats right, you get a resource cap, 33/66/100 for each hive you have. No RFK so you have no easy to augment your income, and the only way to effectivley manage this is a perma-gorge. Marines kill the perma-gorge? gg, assuming of course they didnt already lock down 2 hives in 3 minutes. Or arent already half way up their tech tree to JPs. Skulks are kind of nice, until you notice that your hitbox is the size of a half-crouched marine at your ****, making it possible to be shot while ontop of boxes, pipes, structures etc. Gorges? Well theres only 1 of you, ever, except for maybe hive 2 for double the babbler fun. Lerks? 1, 2 on very large servers, your flight control sucks by the way, very bad. Fades, well your powerful, but its only because of acid rocket of doom on your shoulder, you are not agile, you are not quick, your large, slow and hulking. Onos, well your pretty much an avatar of destruction, between your lovley hit box and the ability to single handedly destroy solar systems have fun, but to bad you never show up because your tied to the 3rd hive and marines never survive against the fade onslaught.
Now I'm not all anger, 1.04 was pretty damn fun if all the blocks fell into the right place, the problem was, you had to literally force those blocks to fall into the right place, it would end up having to be a mutual agreement on both sides, marines wouldnt balls out to JP/HMG and the aliens would insta-kill the marines once the 2nd hive was online. Those were awesome times, teamwork against a fade didnt involve body checking and the prayer that he messed up his blink, it was a blissful carnage of guns, grit, and guts and when you killed one you felt an elation that was wonderful. Killing an onos was something you creamed your pants over because it was THAT good.
Unfortunetley accomplishing that was very difficult to do on the majority of the servers. Nigh impossible and what would be considered the "average pub"
Most games went along this path(Only the marines really count, dont worry about an alien perspective): Mine up base, get an extra clip of ammo, and bunny hop out in pairs to nearby resource nodes. Cap 2-4 nodes, sit there, or maybe run and play find the gorge, it doesnt really matter. Tech up to Adv. Armory and Jetpacks, kill aliens while their second hive is going up, crushing their morale, then toy with them until you kill their starting hive. Total game time: Anywhere from 5-12 minutes, depending on map and or luck. That was your by and large average 1.04 game, it would disgust me to see that come back. I love to reminesce on it, but those days are dead and gone, 3.0 and its betas are the next stage in the game, and they will be in the right direction, small and kinda diagonal sideways steps, but they will be in the right direction.
P.S. Unchain the chambers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You definately win the awesome freaking job award.
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Instead of never reading the forums, I'd just filter out the crap. Oh wait.
Why do you hate 3.0 so much besides combat? 3.0 is still NS. Look at DOD. 1.3 isn't DOD, it's 1st World War CS. The only major changes between 1.04 and 3.0, besides some serious bug fixing (hitboxes) were:
1- No more single gorge vs comm.
2- Lifeforms unchained and nerfed.
3- Some alien weapon changes and nerfs.
4- Harder for marines to do those JP+HMG rushes. Because OC's are now feared by JP's and because 3 full HMG clips won't kill the hive.
5- Res cost changes.
If instead of saying "bring 1.04 back", you could say which change you dislike and maybe we could agree with you.
EDIT: Forgot one:
6- Shorter games. (Faster res flow?)
EDIT 2: Oh yeah, since -= Vicious =- Eclipse mentioned...
7- Series of small marine buffs (electricity, shotgun, cat packs, grenades)
AND
8- Some chamber ability boosts, but life reduction.
9- Smaller chambers (Nah the big ones were too buggy)
The devs aren't stupid... just put more faith in them, and it will be all good <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->