Some Guy Useing Ns Models..

Daza4 · July 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">In another mod ...</div> This custom map for svencoop <a href='http://www.svencoop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22669' target='_blank'>Click here</a> Uses the onos model from NS, if you check General dicussion forum you will see his "Whine **** **** im leaving" thread.. Where he says he dosen't care of the NS team's wishes.

Kalias · July 2004

Actually it's another thread that shows the views a bit better.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (http://www.svencoop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21839)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>SO, no matter what happens, RE2 will be completed by this weekend. There will be no lickers. Instead they will be BULLSQUIDS. The same goes for the zombies. Those biting zombies will be your responsability to make now. Tyrant? Tyrant will be the stupid retarded bumbling peice of crap which was walking in the first place. <b>Not only that, but the Balathron will be the natural selection onos. You may say, "didn't they not give you permission to use it", and my reply is, "I could care less".</b></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

MrMojo · July 2004

Does anyone really care? They are free domain when they are released, and this is a custom mod and no one is trying to sell or profit from it. His altitude is bad, but I'm sure if he asked any of the devs, they'd agree (it does nothing but generate more interest in NS).

LittleToe · July 2004

let it die. there is nothing to see here. the map/mod will not be released so no law was broken.

RyoOhki · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Does anyone really care? They are free domain when they are released,</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Wait, I'm fairly sure that NS is copyrighted material belonging to Flayra. Sure, some of the sounds might be public domain, but the Onos model certainly would not be.

MrMojo · July 2004

Copywrites only extend so far as someone officially releasing work or making profit from it. A custom map in which I'm sure the author will cite where he got the model from is under no obligation.

Legat · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Copywrites only extend so far as someone officially releasing work or making profit from it.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

That is not quite correct. If this is made public by means of download /screenshot/ mentioned in the forum or whatever, even if its free of charge, it is not legal without the original creators permission. At the very least he has to make it absoluteley obvious that his mod contains copyrighted material.

Kalias · July 2004

I'm pretty sure they have no such protection Mojo, in this case they would not be able to copy it unless they were given permission to use it by Flayra... and he has stated that none of the material is to be used in other games.

Otherwise I'd be allowed to copy all of NS, start making changes and distributing it as my own mod with credits to Flayra.

Considering Flayra is making a company and hoping to utilise NS assets in future I'd think he would be concerned that his work was being stolen, as would most other companies.

esuna · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 24 2004, 11:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Copywrites only extend so far as someone officially releasing work or making profit from it. A custom map in which I'm sure the author will cite where he got the model from is under no obligation.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Wrong. He has exactly 0 right to use the intellectual and creative property of others. NS materials such as original models, sounds and textures are copyright to NS, and even if being released for no profit, it is still illegal to do so without the owners consent.

Copyrights extend a lot further than you think.

mrfranswa · July 2004

Oh no, my evil scheme has been found! NOOOOOO

Lol, just dont download the map. It's not a mod, it's not a game, but a stupid map for svencoop, because people pestered me. I couldn't find anything else, so I stuck in an onos. If Flayra really does go ape ****, and wants it deleted, then be my guest. Find the sites, and tell them to take the, "map", off their site for download.

And just so you people are aware, I did email flayra over the span of 2 months without a reply <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

Afr · July 2004

You still broke the law. And remember.. judge dread is the law.
Ur going down.

Delphi · July 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mrfranswa @ Jul 24 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Oh no, my evil scheme has been found! NOOOOOO

Lol, just dont download the map. It's not a mod, it's not a game, but a stupid map for svencoop, because people pestered me. I couldn't find anything else, so I stuck in an onos. If Flayra really does go ape ****, and wants it deleted, then be my guest. Find the sites, and tell them to take the, "map", off their site for download.

And just so you people are aware, I did email flayra over the span of 2 months without a reply <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Oh yes, two months without a reply is nothing to a man who recently moved cross country, is almost remaking an entire mod as well as testing it.. Oh, and don't forget all those silly constellation emails.

You broke the law, and personally, I'd love to see Flayra contact your ISP and have you arrested for this.. Trouble is, he's such a nice guy, he'll probably say "eh, it's cool. It is a good model." or something. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Nemesis_Zero · July 2004

<span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span>

Nice to see you here, mrfranswa, since I could not find your E-Mail adress anywhere on your site.
Let me make it clear that NS' material is <i>no</i> free domain; the fact that NS is distributed freely via the internet does not entitle you to use its copyrighted material in any way not permitted by Charlie Cleveland. You did not recieve such a permission for your work, thus I've got to ask you to remove the models from the map.
For further inquiries, please contact me at <a href='mailto:NemesisZero@natural-selection.org'>NemesisZero@natural-selection.org</a>.

Some Guy Useing Ns Models..

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