An Awesome Strategy To Try-requires 8 Mov Chambers

FiredragonFiredragon Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18207Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">works best with skulk,lerk,fade</div> Ok I think I came up with a intresting strategy for the aliens but it works best with skulk,lerk and fade and I believe I have found this to be infinite adrenaline shots and it requires about 7-8 movement chambers backed by def,oc's maybe one sens.


I tested this myself and it works GREAT!! build about 7 to 8 movement chambers together along with defense chambers behind them and maybe one sens and some oc's if you wish.Build the movements in a U-shaped formation as with the def,oc's and one sens.Or however best ya like.


Stand in the U-shaped mov,def structure and you'll never run out of shots,you won't run out of energy because the movements replenish VERY quickly.You could shoot acid rockets with fade infinitely,spore infinitely,parasite infinitely with this strategy,bilebomb without stopping just hold yer attack button till ya get tired lol.keep doing this until marines take ya out.
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  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    This isn't really a strategy...but yes movement chambers are good. We here just kinda assume people know that already.
  • ApolloGXApolloGX Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20817Members
    if im a marine and i see the aliens build 8 mcs ill laugh, and attack their hive
  • Iron_MaidenIron_Maiden Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21167Members
    Two words : Granade Launcher
  • FiredragonFiredragon Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18207Members, Constellation
    Lol a grenade launcher may not help if ya can get even def chambers healing def chambers n stuff grenades won't help at all I'll tell ya why.


    If ya can get 4 to 5 fades with in this U shaped chamber formation all shooting acid rockets I believe a marine base and the marines could be takenout easily if ya have experienced fades etc.


    If noone knows about this allready and maybe to helpout new players with different strats Maybe Maybe I might record a demo of possible fast annihilation of the marines.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Two more words: siege cannon.
  • ApolloGXApolloGX Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20817Members
    grenade launchers hurt fades too
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I don't know how much you tested this, but someone was complaining a few months ago that they couldn't parasite indefinitely with 8 MC's, because they ran out of energy after the third shot.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    man I wish I had 90 idle res in games :S
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ZiGGY^+Jul 23 2004, 10:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Jul 23 2004, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> man I wish I had 90 idle res in games :S <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and 4-5 fades that all shoot acid rocket for some reason
  • freebirdpatfreebirdpat Join Date: 2004-04-10 Member: 27826Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Jul 23 2004, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Jul 23 2004, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't know how much you tested this, but someone was complaining a few months ago that they couldn't parasite indefinitely with 8 MC's, because they ran out of energy after the third shot.
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    I just tested it. With a unupgraed skulk with 8 mcs, its 5-6 shots. At the rate those mcs heal your energy I am sure you could pull it off with 3-4 mcs. You shouldn't be able to parasite indefinitely that's why it has such a high cost, its a first hive ranged ability. It has a high cost and low damage. I never just parasite spam like that anyhow. You pick a target hit, and re-lockon because they always keep moving.\


    First thing why this doesn't work. With 4-5 fades and you as gorge at this one heavily defended spot allows the rest of the map to be mostly open for marines. One marine could go around and build up all the res nodes and what not. This tactic is only good at endgames and it is called a healing station which we know about already. 8 MCs is too much, you can probably pull off the same amount with 3-4 or less. and now you could probably go lerk or fade because I saved your butt some res. You can bilebomb infinite with less mcs too... The healing station isn't exactly a new idea. one GL could take it out too, DCs have a limit on healing and GLs can do more damage. Two gls could pull it off. one siege and do it in a couple dozen shots, so with 3 sieges that's like 5 shots a piece because now they aren't exactly healing much either.

    Maybe I should record a demo of a faster annilation of marines using the swipe and blink abilities which are far superior and keep marines from ramboing
  • FiredragonFiredragon Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18207Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    I tested it for about 2-3 hours and honestly I am not lying you CAN parasite indefinitely BUT you have to be right in front of them to parasite indefinitely right next to them ontop of them.


    The movements have to be in a group and ya have to be close to them to be able to parasite,spore,acid rocket shooting indefinitely same with gorge spit.


    Yes I guess it would be good for close to end games.Depending on how much res ya got and how smart the marines might be ya might be able to pulloff some of this in the middle of game.

    Also ya may wanna stick a sensory tower behind yer 7-8 movs as well as 8 defense chambers.


    Maybe better yet how about ya's meet me on a server or tell me which server to goto and I'll prove it to ya <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
  • LitoLito Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
    Too much res to be viable for anything other than base breaking; and thats even if you were able to build all 10 chambers in a spot where you could hit the marine base.

    Which means you're probably sitting outside the marine base, killing whatever comes out with <i>acid rocket</i> or whathave you. Way to be productive.
  • CaMCaM Join Date: 2004-07-05 Member: 29735Members
    lol if i had that much res to build that many chambers randomly i would go onos and eat stuff <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    This is the most constructive and viable strategy I've ever seen.

    no really it is
  • FiredragonFiredragon Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18207Members, Constellation
    Thanks Cypher lol

    Like I said one of the things that depend on ya maybe being able to pull this off is how smart the marines are,how fast they expand,how many resnodes aliens/marines have etc.


    I believe something like this would be best tried on a not too large game and have all 3 hives.I'm trying some of this on some servers,some people are like WTH? how you doing that? lol.


    Also when trying this ya maybe want to have a couple fades at strategic locations(besides hives) near a cloaked 7-8 mov,7-8 defense chamber healing station/energy replenisher.Hope marines don't run into them lmao.


    I wouldn't put any oc's near yer mov/def wall unless ya feel it's needed.Like I said before I have tested this and am still testing to see how all this works out and just maybe if ya try it out for yerselves ya might think "Hey this is awesome,this really works gj Fire lol"


    Oh ingame names I use are "Pyrotechnic" and "Vassilij Zaitzev" and every once in awhile "Firedragon".

    Take care everyone and maybe ya might find this useful with the mov's n defs
  • cortexcortex Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23707Members
    most of the alien ranged-attacks suck compared to their cheaper more efficient melee attacks, i see no point in wasting 90+ res to use a strategy which is quite easily outstripped by pressing "1" and clicking.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    If you don't feel like learning to blink-swipe effectively, or you can't do it for some reason, then you can still spam acid rocket, and it doesn't require the support of 100 res in chambers. You can fire 8 acid rocket shots with adrenaline and no MC's around. Switch to meta to regain energy, then repeat. That isn't as effective as rushing in and actually killing things, but it's better than placing 8 unneeded MC's, and it doesn't require any real effort (assuming you are in a situation where any of these are viable options).
  • TranquilChaosTranquilChaos Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18425Members
    OMG!1, this reminds me of my favurite tactic, it is really ez and fun!!!
    Furst, u tell everyone to go gorge and get teh rez, but u don't go gorge, save ur res, if anyone asks, say "I r save for teh hive." but don't really save for te hive instead wait until you get 99 res and then you become the gorge and build lotsa ocs in a big room, lololol, then you say "omg mariens I am in a big room all alone, omg I am teh poor dead gorgie, then wen the marines **** to shot u the ocs shot them and they die, then they are like "WTH?!" only sometimes they have big guns and ha, then they kill u which is lame, but then you can blame your team b/c they suk and didn't stop the mariens from getting ha and good guns, this tactic is super awesomefunstastic and always is awesome and I like it because it is so awwsome!!1!1!1!111 <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    I used that kind of strategy a couple times...just 2 mcs is plenty enough, 3 mcs can build bomb forever without adrenaline
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Firedragon+Jul 23 2004, 06:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firedragon @ Jul 23 2004, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> shoot acid rockets with fade infinitely, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this also works by just getting adren
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TranquilChaos+Jul 24 2004, 03:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TranquilChaos @ Jul 24 2004, 03:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG!1, this reminds me of my favurite tactic, it is really ez and fun!!!
    Furst, u tell everyone to go gorge and get teh rez, but u don't go gorge, save ur res, if anyone asks, say "I r save for teh hive." but don't really save for te hive instead wait until you get 99 res and then you become the gorge and build lotsa ocs in a big room, lololol, then you say "omg mariens I am in a big room all alone, omg I am teh poor dead gorgie, then wen the marines **** to shot u the ocs shot them and they die, then they are like "WTH?!" only sometimes they have big guns and ha, then they kill u which is lame, but then you can blame your team b/c they suk and didn't stop the mariens from getting ha and good guns, this tactic is super awesomefunstastic and always is awesome and I like it because it is so awwsome!!1!1!1!111 <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    THATS ALMOST BETTER THAN MY RINE STRAT

    "ok,everyone duck,and huddle together and keep swinging your knife,and we can slowly make our way to the hive"
  • PilgrimPilgrim Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26678Members
    this is not a tactic its just a fun way to spend ur res (but i really think its more fun going onos)
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jared101+Jul 25 2004, 01:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jared101 @ Jul 25 2004, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Firedragon+Jul 23 2004, 06:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firedragon @ Jul 23 2004, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> shoot acid rockets with fade infinitely, <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this also works by just getting adren <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it's also totally useless, seeing as it takes 100 perfectly on target acid rockets to kill an IP
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    this sucks, seriously <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • jamespsxjamespsx Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21708Members
    i tryed this with spores.... MY GOD!!! frag... frag... frag... frag.... frag... and....... FRAG! (in marines start where they are camping btw lol)
  • Rush_Of_PeonsRush_Of_Peons Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13728Members
    Well you can tell this has been thought through. The only advantage i can see with this is endless charge for onos and endless bile bomb for gorge, and you will also need the res, time and space to complete this. Amazing how 100+ res can be wasted so that a 20 res gl, or a 15 res Siege cannon (well 35 if u count upgrading the tf) can be taken out within a few seconds.
  • CypherCypher Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14579Members
    you don't need to think of strats for aliens with 3 hives
  • SaltzBadSaltzBad Join Date: 2004-02-23 Member: 26833Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jared101+Jul 25 2004, 01:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jared101 @ Jul 25 2004, 01:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TranquilChaos+Jul 24 2004, 03:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TranquilChaos @ Jul 24 2004, 03:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG!1, this reminds me of my favurite tactic, it is really ez and fun!!!
    Furst, u tell everyone to go gorge and get teh rez, but u don't go gorge, save ur res, if anyone asks, say "I r save for teh hive." but don't really save for te hive instead wait until you get 99 res and then you become the gorge and build lotsa ocs in a big room, lololol, then you say "omg mariens I am in a big room all alone, omg I am teh poor dead gorgie, then wen the marines **** to shot u the ocs shot them and they die, then they are like "WTH?!" only sometimes they have big guns and ha, then they kill u which is lame, but then you can blame your team b/c they suk and didn't stop the mariens from getting ha and good guns, this tactic is super awesomefunstastic and always is awesome and I like it because it is so awwsome!!1!1!1!111  <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    THATS ALMOST BETTER THAN MY RINE STRAT

    "ok,everyone duck,and huddle together and keep swinging your knife,and we can slowly make our way to the hive" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Awesome. You'd be like the Romans, except fighting aliens. Oh yeah, and no shields. Oooopseh.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    aw cmon who HASNT tried a knife wall :S
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Charge+Jul 25 2004, 01:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Charge @ Jul 25 2004, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this sucks, seriously <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    my point exactly
    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    caw caw
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