Ns Is Better Than Its Comunity. You`re Stupid!

OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I drop whatever chamber is usefull !</div> This is about DMS btw...
NS is a great game, but 80% of its community is retarded, including admins and regulars on good "adult" servers.

example:
Marines capped almost every resnode and attack the second hive location, with no hive being up, gorges place oc all over, unelectrified resnodes get parasited, not attacked, the game was 5 minutes without any upgrades, clear sign of everybody on a wannabee killing spee without teamwork, so I drop an mc to take back the map and get a second hive up.
DC is dead wrong in this situation as long as what you have build is not being attacked, wich was not the case.

guess what, it worked, of course they all moaned, all registered server regulars ony team, we were striking back marines.
Then someone voted to gaggle me, won 20-18, wich means:
- I got slapped nonstop
- I was unable to chat text
- name changed to "Llama"
- nonstop view rotation to the right.
- The last 2 of the above stayed when I joined another server.

<span style='font-size:30pt;line-height:100%'>Once and for all, thats it, ill drop whatever chamber I want, what I know to be most usefull, I know DMS is best on public nubblets servers and even best on regular servers most times, but never ever allways, you can punish me for this, sucker, ill still drop what I want!</span>

To prove the fact of how stupid the NS comunity is some more examples:
- 75% of all servers play combat maps, marines still loosing most games because of the rare usage of MT, "armor before weapons" , mines and scanning.
- marines loosing on the smallest co map ever, with a time limit of 45 minutes.
- A friendly fire plugin and admins voting FFon, if it gets voted "no" they start another vote untill its "yes".
- 5 unbuild resnodes with an oc next to it, no second hive and no upgrades after 5 minutes. its not as rare as it sounds.
- Shotgun rushes and skulk rushes being considered as lame.

I see me kicked from all ns servers for movement or sc first, even if it made them win when I rejoined.
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  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    Sensory I understand, but movement is pretty useless unless your gorge rushing... I miss those days.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    After my 1 month break from NS I realized I wasn't missing much =\


    To break down my insult just now:


    Ollij is right.
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    Ollj, please, pug a bit and then post. Fades need DCs, and armor 1 is much more useful than MT. :/
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jmmsbnd007+Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jmmsbnd007 @ Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ollj, please, pug a bit and then post. Fades need DCs, and armor 1 is much more useful than MT. :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why get bit at all when you have wallhax?

    Seriously, give me MT, resupply, weapons1, shotty, GL, and I'll clean up until a higher lifeform comes up. And if two or three other marines get MT first, they won't get the chance. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I stopped playing NS mode, mainly because it's not fun for me. As in, it's difficult to find a server (Even pugging) that has competent players. I don't need the hassle and stuff getting worked up about a game when we're gonna lose because some guy put down three OCs instead of a hive. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Custom combat maps to hold interest until I get bored again! whee!
  • R_A_CR_A_C Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16273Members
    edited July 2004
    I don't think he's just saying how great movement is, he's more **** becuase after <span style='color:red'><i><b>FIVE WHOLE MINUTES</b></i></span> When No one else had bothered to drop anything useful in the way of hives/ upgrades, he gets kicked for dropping what HE wants. In that situation, don't even bother to ask hat people want, they obviously don't care anyway.

    Edit: If I'm ever on the alien team and that happens, I'm real tempted to drop one and only one of the chamber people hate most and then just leave before they even get a chance to see who droped it so they can start a kick vote. And I think being "gaggled" is worse than plain ol' being kicked.
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Jul 23 2004, 01:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Jul 23 2004, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jmmsbnd007+Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jmmsbnd007 @ Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ollj, please, pug a bit and then post. Fades need DCs, and armor 1 is much more useful than MT. :/ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why get bit at all when you have wallhax?

    Seriously, give me MT, resupply, weapons1, shotty, GL, and I'll clean up until a higher lifeform comes up. And if two or three other marines get MT first, they won't get the chance. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I stopped playing NS mode, mainly because it's not fun for me. As in, it's difficult to find a server (Even pugging) that has competent players. I don't need the hassle and stuff getting worked up about a game when we're gonna lose because some guy put down three OCs instead of a hive. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Custom combat maps to hold interest until I get bored again! whee! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A set of Sennheiser HD-280Pros is my Motion Tracking. A marine without Armor 1 is absolute skulk bait, especially to the ambushers. Also, you won't have to worry about some guy putting down 3 OCs instead of a hive if you pug. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    I usually get silence as my first upgrade. ;O Can't use those fancy $500 speakers when they really are 100% silent, now can you? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously though, I know what you mean.

    And I had a bad pug experience about a month ago. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delphi+Jul 23 2004, 01:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Jul 23 2004, 01:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I usually get silence as my first upgrade. ;O Can't use those fancy $500 speakers when they really are 100% silent, now can you? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously though, I know what you mean.

    And I had a bad pug experience about a month ago. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    0_o
    Explain please, the pug experience. Everyone has a bad pug once in a while, just keep on playing and you'll find out soon enough that it has quite a good track record.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    i drop sens.... no matter what.

    if they have a problem with me, then it is their loss. i have played far too many games of DMS and LOST because of it.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Jul 22 2004, 10:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Jul 22 2004, 10:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sensory I understand, but movement is pretty useless unless your gorge rushing... I miss those days. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Once more Ollj's point is proven!


    Silence: hide in a corner or on a dark ceiling and stalk them. they will never know you're there, and may not notice their health lowering! (honest! but dont count on it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )

    Celerity: When was this ever a bad choice? BAM! Instant speed boost. Where the marine would jump away, you're the first there to meet him. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Adren: Always useful when munching resource towers... or turret factories.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    foorce to ask what chamber to drop is no argument because the answere is always , always , always, always , always , always , always , always , always dc, boooring and not always right!
  • olisisolisis Join Date: 2003-02-01 Member: 12944Members
    I so, so, so agree with you.

    For starters, Defense is not the best thing to have at the start anyhow. Skulks and Gorges get their best upgrades from either Sensory or Movement.

    What is the first alien classes? Skulks and Gorges!

    I could even say the same goes with the Lerk.

    You want Defense for Fades...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    You SHOULD have the second hive up before you even think about getting Fades. Then you can put your precious Defense Chambers.

    Best games ever played
    - M D S
    - S D M
    - S M D

    The DMS trend needs to go, but there is just too much ignorance about the other chambers. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    If you want sensory first, you gotta rush it. Same goes for movement.

    I still think the best tactic is no upgrades until 2nd hives, or when 2nd hive is building. Then go for classic defence chambers cos there at least one fade if you don't want to lose.

    If the games starts with movement, there must be at east one perma gorge with either adrenaline or mcs close.

    If games starts with sensory, they must be placed at ambush spots or 2nd rt in the way of the marines. Having the full map cloaked gives a big advantage but cost lots of res and res flow is weak at the begening.

    Its best to drop the most rts possible in the begening itstead of dropping upgrades because aliens + res = the win.
    And since you've got all that res might as well go fade and ask for dcs!

    DMS is still the best safest way if you have a couple rts, and if i'm low on res, I won't upgrade my skulk or gorge, so I would'nt even bother taking any mc or sc upgrades.

    I can't say that sensory or movement doesn't make different, "fun" games but at hive 2 you need mcs to protect hives under attack.

    But if you got sensory first, you can't really take movement at 2nd hive especialy if marines locked down a hive.
    Sensory is totaly useless to kill marine defence, so when marines got a place turreted up, defence and movement are your best friends.

    I've played a lot of games that got screwed because we started with sense, if we got screwed and we went for dcs first, its because we technicly got owned.
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    I wish there were more unchained servers. I don't get any decent ones with a tolerable ping. At least then you can drop what chambers you <i>need</i>, as long as you have the res.
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2004
    I don't care whether or not you know what's best for the team, there's no excuse for dropping Movement or Sensory without consulting anyone else first. Suggest that the team chooses Moves first and explain your reasoning. They probably aren't as retarded as you assume; maybe they were mad at you because you acted on your own and didn't give a crap about anyone else on the team? If they all shot your suggestion down, then suck it up and play along with DMS. Maybe the reason they're ignorant of the benefits of Move and Sens is because nobody's ever tried to explain it to them. Maybe they're all just newbies and don't know anything, but I don't see why you should have the right to force them to start with a chamber they hate.

    If everybody but you wants to play the game one way and you screw them all over, of course they're going to get angry with you. If everybody on the marine team wanted to sit in base and turret farm, then it would still be obnoxious if one person stole the chair and tried to comm properly.
  • LegatLegat Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17868Members
    I see his point, especially after several minutes of reswhoring among his team.
    8 out of 10 games I play, im getting stuck as permagorge alongside with 2 or 3 other dedicated players, and its getting boring.
    But, guess what, in the end its the gorge that wins the game. Without dedicated gorges no game will ever be won (exept by skulkrushes)!

    Besides, I am disgusted by the ever persistent DMS. It is so damn boring and predictable.

    I really miss the first few weeks of 2.0, right after the release when everybody was excited about the new sensories and the new cloaking abilities.

    I had many very good sensory first games both as marine and as alien.

    I played several games on unchained servers and that was big fun! marines lost most of the games though because they were unable to adapt to the new situation.

    There were sensories up every game right from the start, yet, most commanders did not upgrade to lvl 1 armor, so the marines were easy pray to focus.....

    Rambos were whining like babies and left the servers bitching how freaking unbalanced the game is with this plugin.....(because they fell like flies to lone cloaking sculks insted of onwing them with their l33t aim)

    comms did not drop observatories or scanned....

    Really, if this is ever implemented officially, this will hopefully bring us away from DMS at last.
    Also, this will force some major adjustments on marine gameplay, especially in terms of teamwork, because the ever present possibility of cloak ambushes makes ramboing very dangrous compared to now where you can definately predict what you are going to face when leaving the base.
  • IceBaronIceBaron Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13954Members
    I would of voted to llama you too. After five minutes, then you decide to drop what you want and you just said you don't care what they thought about it. You were asking for it. NS is a multiplayer game, meaning that multiple people are playing, not just you. And coming here with your big font screaming that we are all idiots makes me think you are about 12 years old.
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    Whilst I agree that it can be deeply frustrating to be stuck with a group of players with the DC only mentality, such is life.

    Perhaps we should create a "Vent your Spleen" forum, for this sort of thing, because although I can see that you are trying to make a valid point to justify your post, you really are just having a rant.

    In these cases, rather than posting, just go outside and shake your fist at the sky. I find it helps.
  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Jul 23 2004, 03:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Jul 23 2004, 03:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wish there were more unchained servers. I don't get any decent ones with a tolerable ping. At least then you can drop what chambers you <i>need</i>, as long as you have the res. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Go to Halls Of Armageddon 69.93.219.206:27015

    It has Unchained mod, Lerk Spikes mod (a bit too powerful if you ask me) and on the weekends, a fun mode where you can become an uber gigantic gorge that is tougher than an ONOS!
  • BlackCatBlackCat Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4788Members
    ...And in a game with no team work, res whoring all around, dropping a MC will MAGICALLY make you win .? i don't think so. You just were in one of those stupid games with noobs or ppl that just didn't wanted to take the game too seriously.
    As for your DMC rant, well we are no strangers to not using them in that order the problem for that game was that with the team you aliens were against, there was no way in hell you could win, specially 5 minutes into the game. Maybe sens at minute 1, or a gorge rush with mcs at the begining, but by then, NO WAY !

    For that particular game (i was there) you were llama-ed and then kicked because you started insulting ppl on your team and thats against server rules.
    Next time don't take the game too seriously, as Grendel said sometimes you just have to calm down. That particular game was a bit stacked, and "a bit" with current balance means marines simply destroyed the aliens.

    And BTW you are always welcome to come back to the server, you just were in one of those stupid games, we normally have great games (in fact we did have some great games after that). Try again, we are just waiting for the next patch to bring back the fun for aliens.
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Delarosa+Jul 22 2004, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Jul 22 2004, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i drop sens.... no matter what.

    if they have a problem with me, then it is their loss. i have played far too many games of DMS and LOST because of it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree 100%. I really don't care anymore if a VET starts crying because he cannot early fade.
  • WirheWirhe Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17610Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->foorce to ask what chamber to drop is no argument because the answere is always , always , always, always , always , always , always , always , always dc, boooring and not always right!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is so true. It requires only one smart-arse to drop the chamber *they* DEMAND while you are asking what it should be.

    **** me off, and I will **** you off. Pleasure guaranteed to both sides. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    We need to get rid of these "gaggles". It's bloody annoying. You should be able to drop as many chambers as you want, and quite frankly, bots are better than these players you describe. Bleh.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Starchy+Jul 23 2004, 06:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Starchy @ Jul 23 2004, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Delarosa+Jul 22 2004, 06:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Jul 22 2004, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i drop sens.... no matter what.

    if they have a problem with me, then it is their loss. i have played far too many games of DMS and LOST because of it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree 100%. I really don't care anymore if a VET starts crying because he cannot early fade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Damn those vets, we'd rather drop whatever we want. They're the ones with the altitude to use higher life forms!
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-{WZD}+Jul 23 2004, 08:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ({WZD} @ Jul 23 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You want Defense for Fades...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    You SHOULD have the second hive up before you even think about getting Fades. Then you can put your precious Defense Chambers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you play (p)cws? fade are needed before the 2nd hive.
  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jmmsbnd007+Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jmmsbnd007 @ Jul 23 2004, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ollj, please, pug a bit and then post. Fades need DCs, and armor 1 is much more useful than MT. :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I disagree. MT renders skulks near useless if the marines are smart. The problem with MT is, though, that you get the upgrades you need for fades that much later.
  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    edited July 2004
    Ollj i can understand you but what you did was totally wrong.

    <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>NS IS A TEAM GAME</span></span>

    and you where playing on your own.
    Why is it so hard to ask the other players or explain them why MC is a better Choice. I must say if i where on the server i would also have voted for gaggle because your action was very selfish. What makes you think that you can make decisions for other players ?
    and if you dont like DMS then find a server which use other Chambers first or make your own server.

    At least i must say that i am very disappointed that such a thread was iniated by you. I tought you where one of the better players but you are nothing but an Whiner.
  • ModChaosControlModChaosControl HiveMind NS bot creator Join Date: 2004-03-31 Member: 27613Members
    well, we all break loose one time..
  • LittleToeLittleToe Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19163Members
    edited July 2004
    if no one puts down upgrades in the first 5 min i still ask.

    edit...

    edits out page went way off topic
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+Jul 23 2004, 07:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ Jul 23 2004, 07:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>NS IS A TEAM GAME</span>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no alien on that server played like this, I saw fades all alone and paprasited "need to go hunting, no time to kill undefended enemy`s" resnodes.

    If i see no teamplay on my team I see no reason for being a good example.
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