Is it true that Tool is going to be doing songs for Doom 3, or something like tat?!!!
OMG IM THERE..lol.
Anyway, I've experienced something more scarierz than doom III HAHAHHAHA!!!!
/feels sorry for all the doom 3 fanatics... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In other related news, I really don't care about Doom 3. The gameplay is gonna get boring in 5 minutes. Multiplayer at least. And single I'm not to sure about either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.
Doom 3 = horror survival not first person shooter.
I for one am not a huge fan of scary games. Games don't scare me an neither do movies for the most part. So will I be bored playing Doom 3? I doubt it because its being backed by a very good company and a lot of effort has been put into it. But will I be enthralled, that I also doubt.
Then again there are people out there that actually liked Far Cry.....so.......
<!--QuoteBegin-dr.d+Jul 22 2004, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 22 2004, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Doom 3 = horror survival not first person shooter.
I for one am not a huge fan of scary games. Games don't scare me an neither do movies for the most part. So will I be bored playing Doom 3? I doubt it because its being backed by a very good company and a lot of effort has been put into it. But will I be enthralled, that I also doubt.
Then again there are people out there that actually liked Far Cry.....so....... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It is a First Person Shooter... it just happens to be A Horror/Survival First Person Shooter....
<!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 04:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 04:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In other related news, I really don't care about Doom 3. The gameplay is gonna get boring in 5 minutes. Multiplayer at least. And single I'm not to sure about either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Doom was far from being the first of its kind. As for the scared part, what the crap am I supposed to be scared of? "OH HELP ME MOMMY THE PIXELS ARE ATTACKING ME!" Again, like I said, its going for a 'shock' factor. The sad thing is this 'shock' usually turns out to be so over the top that its hilariously funny, go watch some B movies. And for the third time, stop trying to be a condescending troll. 'I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.' Go play HLDM and then play NS. I guarantee you'll find NS is a lot more innovative, and overall a lot more fun. I never said FPS's weren't fun. I said I didn't think Doom 3 would be fun, because its simply going to be a rehash of games we've already played, with pretty graphics.
<!--QuoteBegin-StUpId_Fo0L+Jul 22 2004, 04:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StUpId_Fo0L @ Jul 22 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pretty graphics can be fun.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yah they should just make a game where you walk into rooms and three million poly count zombies expload around you.
....oh wait, lol.
Anyway I suggest we all wait until we play the game, same goes for HL2.
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 01:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 01:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 04:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 04:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 22 2004, 02:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In other related news, I really don't care about Doom 3. The gameplay is gonna get boring in 5 minutes. Multiplayer at least. And single I'm not to sure about either. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Doom was far from being the first of its kind. As for the scared part, what the crap am I supposed to be scared of? "OH HELP ME MOMMY THE PIXELS ARE ATTACKING ME!" Again, like I said, its going for a 'shock' factor. The sad thing is this 'shock' usually turns out to be so over the top that its hilariously funny, go watch some B movies. And for the third time, stop trying to be a condescending troll. 'I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.' Go play HLDM and then play NS. I guarantee you'll find NS is a lot more innovative, and overall a lot more fun. I never said FPS's weren't fun. I said I didn't think Doom 3 would be fun, because its simply going to be a rehash of games we've already played, with pretty graphics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm, if you feel that way about a game then how do you feel about a movie that tries to achieve the same effect? If you walk into a horror film and say "OMG LOOK THE SCREEN IS TRYING TO EAT ME" then you probably should not watch movies or play any games ever again.
I am also not sure where you got the idea that DOOM wasn't the first of its kind. What game before it really started this Genre off its feet? This game is a sequel(well it really doesn't follow the storyline from the first 2 but hey), from the best FPS game ever made, frankly because it was the first that amazed and stupified.
You may say that DOOM 3 does do a lot of things that previous games have done, but remember that the first one WAS the first of its kind and that it was damn scary the first time around with craptacular graphics, I can't imagine what it will be like this time around.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you walk into a horror film and say "OMG LOOK THE SCREEN IS TRYING TO EAT ME"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please
<!--QuoteBegin-kuperaye+Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kuperaye @ Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you walk into a horror film and say "OMG LOOK THE SCREEN IS TRYING TO EAT ME"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't get scared at movies, like I said, most any time anyone goes for a shock value, it turns out to be hilarious because its so cheesy. And again Jim, for Doom allegedly being the first of its kind, go do yourself a favor and play Wolfenstein 3D, also made by iD. Then you can also go play Spear of Destiny. Doom was hardly the first of its kind.
<!--QuoteBegin-OttoDestruct+Jul 22 2004, 02:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 22 2004, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-kuperaye+Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kuperaye @ Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you walk into a horror film and say "OMG LOOK THE SCREEN IS TRYING TO EAT ME"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't get scared at movies, like I said, most any time anyone goes for a shock value, it turns out to be hilarious because its so cheesy. And again Jim, for Doom allegedly being the first of its kind, go do yourself a favor and play Wolfenstein 3D, also made by iD. Then you can also go play Spear of Destiny. Doom was hardly the first of its kind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes your right that Spear of Destiny was the FIRST FPS game and Wolf3d right after. But this Genre didn't shoot off until Doom came into the picture. Doom really defined this Genre, and this is its brethren returning to the scene after its departure when Id started to make the quake series.
There is no doubt that when this game was concieved years ago, that all the blood and sweat of programming this game was going to make it a masterpiece. Just to get this idea off the ground id had to fire a couple people that were in doubt about the project. It just shows everyone how much John Carmack really cared about making this game.
I'm not going to say any more to the people who think Doom 3 is not going to be fun. That very notion is incomprehensible to me.
Also, I get more scared playing games than watching movies because in games, if they're immersive enough, make it feel as if you're the one being attacked. At least first person ones; I always laugh at the dim-witted characters of 3rd person survival/horror games, especially the Japanese ones.
I also thoroughly enjoyed Far Cry, if you don't have a system to run it don't say it's a bad game. I also hate some popular titles, such as Splinter Cell, Counter-Strike, and something else I can't remember right now.
Screw this, I personally can't wait to engage in some Doom III 4player Deathmatch. After having played ut2k4 Onslaught+ctf and BF:V (the latter being terrible, and I regret buying it, ohohoho), I am completely burned out on 32+ player teamgames.
And when it comes to public play, small games are much more skill dependent, anyway. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As John Carmack said of DOOM 3 in our introduction, "all of the modern cards play the game very well."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only thing you actually need to know from the entire article. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Good job on missing the most important point in my post, Tommy. You know, the one where I point out that when you purchase Half Life 2, you not only get an amazing game with awesome graphics, you also buy dozens of other games of all types. Some of the most innovative and fun games are FREE, because Source will allow many people to mod their games and give them a community to spread it in, all for free. Hey, NS is a free game, and it is one of the most interesting I've ever played, regardless of any bugs/balance problems.
Not all HL mods are 32 person deathmatch, although many are, no doubt. Poke646 was a single player mod that was pretty well done, and I'd sure like to support the far more innovative and interesting "mod underground" of Half Life than buy a game I'd play once or twice and then discard.
Doom's appeal has always been dramatically different than the appeal of Half Life. Doom has a "shoot 'em up" appeal, the same that is present in driving the tank over everyone for hours in that Goldeneye level with the plane (sorry, it has been a long while). Yes, I've done that, and I'm sure you have before as well, but I've found Half Life to be far more serious of a game to play, and I like that aspect more.
Soooo:
Half Life 2 + possibly 30 free games (5 excellent ones) > Doom 3 and some games I will never buy because I can get them for free through steam.
I am quite interested in seeing how much DOOManiac will pwn with the super shotgun now that he'll have to actually put some effort into aiming up or down. Before: DOOManiac - 9 million pj2 - DOOManiac Vinnie - -9 million
After: pj2 - infinity + 2 DOOManiac - -9 million Vinnie - -30 million
You guys do realize that DOOM 3 isn't a "shoot-em up" game, its an FPS game. A "shoot-em up" game should be known as Serious Sam, that is a good example.
What you don't realize is that the developers really wanted to go for an entralling and extremely scary storyline. In fact the first 15 - 20 mins of the game is just to get you introduced into the game, you don't see any action till 20 mins into the game.
They also said there will be a couple parts in the game where it seems like there are many monsters and that it will sorta be like a "shoot-em up" style but the MOST of the game has been centered around a great, developing plotline also making you think about your next move before you do it or it could be your last.
Anyone who takes this game as a "shoot-em up" should really consider reading a couple of the interviews with the developers that have recently been posted everywhere. It will clear up a lot of misconceptions.
<!--QuoteBegin-pjofsky+Jul 22 2004, 11:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pjofsky @ Jul 22 2004, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am quite interested in seeing how much DOOManiac will pwn with the super shotgun now that he'll have to actually put some effort into aiming up or down. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> :P
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<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 23 2004, 01:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 23 2004, 01:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-pjofsky+Jul 22 2004, 11:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pjofsky @ Jul 22 2004, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am quite interested in seeing how much DOOManiac will pwn with the super shotgun now that he'll have to actually put some effort into aiming up or down. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> CAPTAIN! THE PWNAGE METER IS OVERLOADING!
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OMG IM THERE..lol.
Anyway, I've experienced something more scarierz than doom III HAHAHHAHA!!!!
/feels sorry for all the doom 3 fanatics... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.
I for one am not a huge fan of scary games. Games don't scare me an neither do movies for the most part. So will I be bored playing Doom 3? I doubt it because its being backed by a very good company and a lot of effort has been put into it. But will I be enthralled, that I also doubt.
Then again there are people out there that actually liked Far Cry.....so.......
I for one am not a huge fan of scary games. Games don't scare me an neither do movies for the most part. So will I be bored playing Doom 3? I doubt it because its being backed by a very good company and a lot of effort has been put into it. But will I be enthralled, that I also doubt.
Then again there are people out there that actually liked Far Cry.....so....... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is a First Person Shooter... it just happens to be A Horror/Survival First Person Shooter....
Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doom was far from being the first of its kind. As for the scared part, what the crap am I supposed to be scared of? "OH HELP ME MOMMY THE PIXELS ARE ATTACKING ME!" Again, like I said, its going for a 'shock' factor. The sad thing is this 'shock' usually turns out to be so over the top that its hilariously funny, go watch some B movies. And for the third time, stop trying to be a condescending troll. 'I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.' Go play HLDM and then play NS. I guarantee you'll find NS is a lot more innovative, and overall a lot more fun. I never said FPS's weren't fun. I said I didn't think Doom 3 would be fun, because its simply going to be a rehash of games we've already played, with pretty graphics.
Yah they should just make a game where you walk into rooms and three million poly count zombies expload around you.
....oh wait, lol.
Anyway I suggest we all wait until we play the game, same goes for HL2.
Umm don't you think you are letting your fanboyism for ATi to get in the way a little bit? Doom 3 is one of the most anticipated games right next to HL2 and you are saying that it will be boring after 5 minutes of gameplay???
The reviewer for PC Games(I think that was the magazine) said that he was entralled at the level of detail and actually scared just like in the movies. He also said it took him <i>23 hours</i> to complete the game! Thats amazing.
Lets do some math here guys, if I pay 10 bucks for a movie ticket, which the movie will probably be around 2 hours long, that will equal..
= 5bucks/1hr (5 bucks per hour)
Now if I buy Doom(I believe retail is selling at $55 dollars) and I play JUST the single player all the way through that will be..
= 55bucks/23hrs = 2.39bucks/1hr
Thats already beaten a regular scary movies value per hour by double.
Now your telling me it's going to be boring after 5 mins of gameplay. When you do play the game, please tell me that again after you have played at least a couple hours WITHOUT the mindset that it is gonna suck. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read my post before you start slinging around words like fanboy. I don't ever recall seeing the words ATI, nVidia, or HL2. So stop putting words in my mouth. I think Doom3 will have gameplay which will get old real fast. Thats my opinion. I'm entitled to it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok answer me this one question and I will shut my mouth. What video card do you have in your computer and/or if you are planning on buying a video card within the next 3 months what video card will it be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, stop trying to be a condescending troll, trying to put words in my mouth. My graphics card has absolutely nothing to do with how I think Doom 3's gameplay is going to be. As Quanaut said, they aren't trying for anything innovative, they're going for a 'shock' factor. Quite frankly I would rather play an innovative game than a game that goes 'look at me, I made headline news and **** off soccer moms, but other than that theres nothing new about me'. Graphics? Big deal. One year from now games are going to look like Doom 3, and there will be games that look better. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whoa man, first of all it is an innovative game, if you remember its granddaddy was one of the first of its kind. The innovation in the game is that it will be like no other in giving you such a thick story that biting on it would break your teeth. Having it be a horror story and being able to scare the crap outta you doesn't seem to be boring, in fact I don't think you can compare being scared to being bored. If you were being attacked in real life by a bear would you be bored?
Also, you proved my other point for me but please don't call me a troll, I never called you anything I don't want you to ignite a flamewar in this thread.
Anyways, if you really think that this game will get boring after 5 mins then frankly I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doom was far from being the first of its kind. As for the scared part, what the crap am I supposed to be scared of? "OH HELP ME MOMMY THE PIXELS ARE ATTACKING ME!" Again, like I said, its going for a 'shock' factor. The sad thing is this 'shock' usually turns out to be so over the top that its hilariously funny, go watch some B movies. And for the third time, stop trying to be a condescending troll. 'I have no idea what you find entertaining espiecially since you are posting in a forum that is based off a mod that is mostly First Person Shooter.' Go play HLDM and then play NS. I guarantee you'll find NS is a lot more innovative, and overall a lot more fun. I never said FPS's weren't fun. I said I didn't think Doom 3 would be fun, because its simply going to be a rehash of games we've already played, with pretty graphics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Umm, if you feel that way about a game then how do you feel about a movie that tries to achieve the same effect? If you walk into a horror film and say "OMG LOOK THE SCREEN IS TRYING TO EAT ME" then you probably should not watch movies or play any games ever again.
I am also not sure where you got the idea that DOOM wasn't the first of its kind. What game before it really started this Genre off its feet? This game is a sequel(well it really doesn't follow the storyline from the first 2 but hey), from the best FPS game ever made, frankly because it was the first that amazed and stupified.
You may say that DOOM 3 does do a lot of things that previous games have done, but remember that the first one WAS the first of its kind and that it was damn scary the first time around with craptacular graphics, I can't imagine what it will be like this time around.
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't get scared at movies, like I said, most any time anyone goes for a shock value, it turns out to be hilarious because its so cheesy. And again Jim, for Doom allegedly being the first of its kind, go do yourself a favor and play Wolfenstein 3D, also made by iD. Then you can also go play Spear of Destiny. Doom was hardly the first of its kind.
i do have to agree with jim on this, if you get scared at movies why not get scared in video games, you control it, so dont go in the dark dainky house, or do so, what, ever you please <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't get scared at movies, like I said, most any time anyone goes for a shock value, it turns out to be hilarious because its so cheesy. And again Jim, for Doom allegedly being the first of its kind, go do yourself a favor and play Wolfenstein 3D, also made by iD. Then you can also go play Spear of Destiny. Doom was hardly the first of its kind. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes your right that Spear of Destiny was the FIRST FPS game and Wolf3d right after. But this Genre didn't shoot off until Doom came into the picture. Doom really defined this Genre, and this is its brethren returning to the scene after its departure when Id started to make the quake series.
There is no doubt that when this game was concieved years ago, that all the blood and sweat of programming this game was going to make it a masterpiece. Just to get this idea off the ground id had to fire a couple people that were in doubt about the project. It just shows everyone how much John Carmack really cared about making this game.
I'm not going to say any more to the people who think Doom 3 is not going to be fun. That very notion is incomprehensible to me.
Also, I get more scared playing games than watching movies because in games, if they're immersive enough, make it feel as if you're the one being attacked. At least first person ones; I always laugh at the dim-witted characters of 3rd person survival/horror games, especially the Japanese ones.
I also thoroughly enjoyed Far Cry, if you don't have a system to run it don't say it's a bad game. I also hate some popular titles, such as Splinter Cell, Counter-Strike, and something else I can't remember right now.
And when it comes to public play, small games are much more skill dependent, anyway. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The only thing you actually need to know from the entire article. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Not all HL mods are 32 person deathmatch, although many are, no doubt. Poke646 was a single player mod that was pretty well done, and I'd sure like to support the far more innovative and interesting "mod underground" of Half Life than buy a game I'd play once or twice and then discard.
Doom's appeal has always been dramatically different than the appeal of Half Life. Doom has a "shoot 'em up" appeal, the same that is present in driving the tank over everyone for hours in that Goldeneye level with the plane (sorry, it has been a long while). Yes, I've done that, and I'm sure you have before as well, but I've found Half Life to be far more serious of a game to play, and I like that aspect more.
Soooo:
Half Life 2 + possibly 30 free games (5 excellent ones) > Doom 3 and some games I will never buy because I can get them for free through steam.
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Before:
DOOManiac - 9 million
pj2 - DOOManiac
Vinnie - -9 million
After:
pj2 - infinity + 2
DOOManiac - -9 million
Vinnie - -30 million
What you don't realize is that the developers really wanted to go for an entralling and extremely scary storyline. In fact the first 15 - 20 mins of the game is just to get you introduced into the game, you don't see any action till 20 mins into the game.
They also said there will be a couple parts in the game where it seems like there are many monsters and that it will sorta be like a "shoot-em up" style but the MOST of the game has been centered around a great, developing plotline also making you think about your next move before you do it or it could be your last.
Anyone who takes this game as a "shoot-em up" should really consider reading a couple of the interviews with the developers that have recently been posted everywhere. It will clear up a lot of misconceptions.
:P
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YOU JUST GOT SERVED!! OHOHOHHHHHHH SNAP@!
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