This show how good the glow is! i love it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> and it doesn't slow the game... on my computer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
left side = glow and detailed texture right side = no glow and no detailed texture <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just keep in mind, this is NOT what detailtextures look like in NS. (the ones released anyhow) The NS ones are not specifically taylored to the textures like these, and as a result look like grainy versions of the original ones.
<!--QuoteBegin-curlydave+Jul 12 2004, 12:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (curlydave @ Jul 12 2004, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just keep in mind, this is NOT what detailtextures look like in NS. (the ones released anyhow) The NS ones are not specifically taylored to the textures like these, and as a result look like grainy versions of the original ones. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uh? Have you used the released NS detail textures? Your description is just about perfectly wrong in every sense. The NS det texs look like carefully detailed versions of the textures that they overlay. They don't look 'grainy' at all. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Jul 12 2004, 02:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Jul 12 2004, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Uh? Have you used the released NS detail textures? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, I'm actually using them right now. They don't look anything like the effects seen in the HI map you've seen the screen shots of.
If you examine the detailtextures themselves of both, you'll understand why. The ns ones are just a pattern, while the HI ones are designed specifically to enhance specific textures.
I think that the NS detailed textures REALLY look cool in origin. Let's take a peek:
Without <a href='http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0000.jpg' target='_blank'>http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0000.jpg</a>
With <a href='http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0001.jpg' target='_blank'>http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0001.jpg</a>
As a side note, I couldn't notice any FPS hit at all. And I know, I didn't adjust the gamma. But unless you're blind, you can plainly see that it's... infest-ey. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-curlydave+Jul 12 2004, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (curlydave @ Jul 12 2004, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Jul 12 2004, 02:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Jul 12 2004, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Uh? Have you used the released NS detail textures? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, I'm actually using them right now. They don't look anything like the effects seen in the HI map you've seen the screen shots of.
If you examine the detailtextures themselves of both, you'll understand why. The ns ones are just a pattern, while the HI ones are designed specifically to enhance specific textures. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually most if not all of the Hostile Intent textures are exactly like the NS textures; they are simple overlays designed to be tiled. Take the bricks for example, all they're doing is using the detailed texture to overwhelm the existing texture, you can even see the mortar between the original bricks in the MIDDLE OF the new bricks. They might as well have reduced the scale of the original bricks, it would have acheived the same effect.
The only way to do anything but the tiling is to use a technique like HLTex does.
All this was covered in the Mapping forum, quite a while ago. If you read the thread it talks about how it was discovered, and how to make your own, as well as the unrecognised command problem.... <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62384' target='_blank'>Here</a> I would suggest that you read the whole thing it is quite interesting.
If you are to lazy to read, it is because valves implementation requires a video card equivalent of a Geforce 3 TI or higher for the command to be enabled. This is discussed in the tread.
The thread also says that detailed textures will be encouraged but are not mandatory. They are in the process of deciding how to use them in an effective way with out creating a huge download for the install.
Soylent green has created a detailed texture pack for NS?s official maps. This is pack can be found <a href='http://hem.bredband.net/congal/temp/DetTex_pack.zip' target='_blank'>here</a> or in the link in his sig.
The mapping forum has even created a tool for making high res textures for HL by tricking the game using det tex... it can be found <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68706' target='_blank'>here</a> though it will be difficult to impliment because thier are no highres textures for NS, they were all made at 1:1.
I got a 6800 so it shouldnt be a problem... i wanna turn it on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-SDJASON+Jul 13 2004, 06:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SDJASON @ Jul 13 2004, 06:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is all good and all..
How do i turn on glow effects in HL??
I got a 6800 so it shouldnt be a problem... i wanna turn it on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~Jason <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Glow effects aren't yet available in game. You can use a HL mod and load NS maps if you want to see what it looks like.
I would love to see glow in NS... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Sorry for the bump, but i HAD to show the effects r_detailtextures and cg_glow would make to NS. Here is a single comparison shot from 'Hostile Intent', which is as you all should know a HL mod. I will post more if someone will give a host, or host them for me. Admins dont like people sucking up the forums bandwidth.And yes this is the same game, map, position. One side has cg_glow 1 and r_detailtextures 1, and the other has both of them off... Spot the difference.
EDIT: Replaced low res GIF with high res JPG which is actually smaller in size.
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and it doesn't slow the game... on my computer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
left side = glow and detailed texture
right side = no glow and no detailed texture
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://veng.users.whitehat.dk/hi.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Uh? Have you used the released NS detail textures? Your description is just about perfectly wrong in every sense. The NS det texs look like carefully detailed versions of the textures that they overlay. They don't look 'grainy' at all. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Yes, I'm actually using them right now. They don't look anything like the effects seen in the HI map you've seen the screen shots of.
If you examine the detailtextures themselves of both, you'll understand why. The ns ones are just a pattern, while the HI ones are designed specifically to enhance specific textures.
Without
<a href='http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0000.jpg' target='_blank'>http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0000.jpg</a>
With
<a href='http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0001.jpg' target='_blank'>http://members.cox.net/benkarcher/temp/ns_origin0001.jpg</a>
As a side note, I couldn't notice any FPS hit at all. And I know, I didn't adjust the gamma. But unless you're blind, you can plainly see that it's... infest-ey. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<a href='http://kalias.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/detail/detail.htm' target='_blank'>http://kalias.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/detail/detail.htm</a>
Yes the detail textures here are simple tiles, it'll probably be nice when the details are made specifically for the textures in ns.
Yes, I'm actually using them right now. They don't look anything like the effects seen in the HI map you've seen the screen shots of.
If you examine the detailtextures themselves of both, you'll understand why. The ns ones are just a pattern, while the HI ones are designed specifically to enhance specific textures. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually most if not all of the Hostile Intent textures are exactly like the NS textures; they are simple overlays designed to be tiled. Take the bricks for example, all they're doing is using the detailed texture to overwhelm the existing texture, you can even see the mortar between the original bricks in the MIDDLE OF the new bricks. They might as well have reduced the scale of the original bricks, it would have acheived the same effect.
The only way to do anything but the tiling is to use a technique like HLTex does.
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62384' target='_blank'>Here</a> I would suggest that you read the whole thing it is quite interesting.
If you are to lazy to read, it is because valves implementation requires a video card equivalent of a Geforce 3 TI or higher for the command to be enabled. This is discussed in the tread.
The thread also says that detailed textures will be encouraged but are not mandatory. They are in the process of deciding how to use them in an effective way with out creating a huge download for the install.
Soylent green has created a detailed texture pack for NS?s official maps. This is pack can be found <a href='http://hem.bredband.net/congal/temp/DetTex_pack.zip' target='_blank'>here</a> or in the link in his sig.
The mapping forum has even created a tool for making high res textures for HL by tricking the game using det tex... it can be found <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68706' target='_blank'>here</a> though it will be difficult to impliment because thier are no highres textures for NS, they were all made at 1:1.
How do i turn on glow effects in HL??
I got a 6800 so it shouldnt be a problem... i wanna turn it on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~Jason
How do i turn on glow effects in HL??
I got a 6800 so it shouldnt be a problem... i wanna turn it on <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~Jason <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Glow effects aren't yet available in game. You can use a HL mod and load NS maps if you want to see what it looks like.
EDIT: Replaced low res GIF with high res JPG which is actually smaller in size.
Now that i think of it... if i was gonig to post 2 pics, i might as well of posted 2 complete pics instead... oh well.