Leaving Steam

IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">dont think this is about WON, its not</div> ok, i just got this idea, call me crazy, but read this b4 posting at least.

i was thinking, NS, could become independant, no steam, it could use its own way of accessing servers, like how Scorched 3D does, and maybe UW could make there own master server or something, dont get me wrong, i like Steam, but im thinking, NS could become something more, if they leave Steam. i myself wouldent mind donating my brain (not money, because i have none Cept that roll of pennys) to this, and trying to help any way i can

dont get me wrong, i like steam, and i dont plan on trying to get NS back on WON

what do you think? comments? flames? all i dont want is this to become a mindless $%!* topic, if that happens, admins know what to do.
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  • rknZrknZ Join Date: 2003-10-23 Member: 21885Members
    You're crazy.
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  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    NS uses the Half-Life engine, therefore its not really feasible.
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  • NaxoNaxo Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15385Members, Constellation
    Dunno if it is techically possible, but anyway there are many people who enjoy Steam, and wouldn't like to leave it now.
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Making NS a standalone product would at this point not be feasible. Not only are there legal considerations, a lot of our gaming audience consists also of casual players who basically pick the game up in between other HL mods - we'd cut ourselves off from that demographic.
    Charlie's already working on UWEs first retail game, so I assume NS will remain the free HL-bound mod it is today until Steam disintegrates or the last of its players get bored of it, whatever happens first <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Jul 3 2004, 02:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Jul 3 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS could become something more, if they leave Steam. i myself wouldent mind donating my brain (not money, because i have none Cept that roll of pennys) to this, and trying to help any way i can
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    So, you are suggesting NS leave a perfectly good distribution system and waste tons of money on its own?

    Any reason why?
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  • Travis_DaneTravis_Dane Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15249Members
    edited July 2004
    I'd imagine it would technically, be quite possible. It involves writing the netcode from the ground up though, would take a fair share of time (wich I don't think Flayra has on his hands at the moment). Not sure about legal restrictions, but I figure valve wouldn't be too happy about it.

    And as others pointed out, the majority of the Steam users don't experience alot of problems with it.

    Wouldn't mind seeing a more sturdy netcode than HL's current piece of dodgyness on the other hand...
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  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Jul 3 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Jul 3 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And as others pointed out, the majority of the Steam users don't experience alot of problems with it.

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    I dont have any problems with it, I just dont like it.
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I think NS should buy the Hl2 engine and make a game and release it for free and then we could all donate and Flayra would invite us to his mansion and we'd party with him and get him drunk and he'll sleep with us. <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • keep_it_Gangstakeep_it_Gangsta Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17632Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 3 2004, 04:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 3 2004, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think NS should buy the Hl2 engine and make a game and release it for free and then we could all donate and Flayra would invite us to his mansion and we'd party with him and get him drunk and he'll sleep with us. <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds good, ill bring the beer.
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  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    IBT : I am just wondering... Why? Steam is a perfectly good system to track games/ join games / track players etc. Why would they leave it?
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  • Travis_DaneTravis_Dane Join Date: 2003-04-06 Member: 15249Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-keep it *G*angsta+Jul 3 2004, 04:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (keep it *G*angsta @ Jul 3 2004, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Travis Dane+Jul 3 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Travis Dane @ Jul 3 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And as others pointed out, the majority of the Steam users don't experience alot of problems with it.

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    I dont have any problems with it, I just dont like it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That can be considered a problem then?
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  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    When NS becomes an "Official" Steam game, the number of new players that will be flooding these boards/playing the game will be substantial, which is good for UW, and Flayra.

    Moving to their own platform would cause a loss in this momentum.
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  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 3 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 3 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think NS should buy the Hl2 engine and make a game and release it for free and then we could all donate and Flayra would invite us to his mansion and we'd party with him and get him drunk and he'll sleep with us.  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You people scare me sometimes <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • briktalbriktal Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20021Members, Constellation
    Or are you just scared by us? Think about it.
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    Let CS leave steam first and NS bcome retrail.
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  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-rknZ+Jul 3 2004, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rknZ @ Jul 3 2004, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're crazy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I second that motion

    here here....
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  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aaron+Jul 3 2004, 09:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Jul 3 2004, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 3 2004, 11:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 3 2004, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think NS should buy the Hl2 engine and make a game and release it for free and then we could all donate and Flayra would invite us to his mansion and we'd party with him and get him drunk and he'll sleep with us.  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You people scare me sometimes <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sometimes? Hell I'm quite amazed that half the people on these forums don't light their own heads on fire then run around naked pouring gasoline on themselves and throwing small rodents at random people given the average levels of common sense around here...

    As for the actual idea... steam is a good platform ATM, most of the bugs worked out (except that stupid steam ticket thing). It has a HUGE audience, since CS is on this platform, and CS is the most popular online game (ugh). When NS gets listed under the My Games section, 1.3 million people will see it every month. Assuming even 1% download it and play it out of curiosity, thats 13,000 new players every month.
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  • weggyweggy Join Date: 2003-06-04 Member: 16998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 3 2004, 10:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 3 2004, 10:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think NS should buy the Hl2 engine and make a game and release it for free and then we could all donate and Flayra would invite us to his mansion and we'd party with him and get him drunk and he'll sleep with us. <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Best. Idea. Ever.

    I can imagine Flayra calling his mansion "The Hive"
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  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    I think Charlie should buy his own island in the Keys where we can build a VR system capable of running NS, supported by a small gambling-themed nation similar to Monaco or that other European country I can't remember the name of. And then when I own a spaceliner, we'll diversify to the moon, and our robot prostitutes will feed us all grapes.
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Naxo+Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Naxo @ Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dunno if it is techically possible, but anyway there are many people who enjoy Steam, and wouldn't like to leave it now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And there's about double as many that hate it over anything.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Naxo+Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Naxo @ Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dunno if it is techically possible, but anyway there are many people who enjoy Steam, and wouldn't like to leave it now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And there's about double as many that hate it over anything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not so much any more, most of the old steam haters are now steam tolerators.
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  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Naxo+Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Naxo @ Jul 3 2004, 03:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dunno if it is techically possible, but anyway there are many people who enjoy Steam, and wouldn't like to leave it now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And there's about double as many that hate it over anything. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Back up with stats plzkthx.
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  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-VampMaster+Jul 3 2004, 10:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (VampMaster @ Jul 3 2004, 10:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IBT : I am just wondering... Why? Steam is a perfectly good system to track games/ join games / track players etc. Why would they leave it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i was thinking, perhaps later, when NS Does get the players, Does get its momentum, they could become standalone, but i gusse, you are right, for now the right place is steam.
    I was more perhaps thinking, if NS became standalone, they could possably become as nice as what we have today, i just seen red orchrista, and compared to dod, Well, you get my point.

    but your right, dumb idea.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and CS is the most popular online game (ugh)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I too feel your pain.
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