Most Annoying Act Of Stupidity Ever

jakes_snakejakes_snake Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7177Members
Hey guys,
first of all this is a great game. Involving games that last for a good amount of
time, a lot of ppl using voice comm and communicating well to win and generally
not that many stupid ppl.

That is until last night......

I was playing on a server as a marine, only about 5 or 6 ppl on. This alien destroys
our command pod, but i had built another. So this guy switches teams and spawns
at our new base which i had set up.

So, I build some light gates and turrets and assign him to build them. What does he do?

He stands there at the command console and doesnt acknowledge me. So I get out to
build the stuff i had placed from the command pod.

While im doing this he has climbed into the command pod, and proceeded to RECYCLE
EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE HAVE.

I have no idea whats happening as ive never seen stuff being recycled before, and by the time
we vote him out, he has recycled everything and built about 20 Turret factories and spawn portals.

He then tells the opposing team that he has done this, joins them and tells them to attack us.

Which they do. And we die.

Game Over. We goto the next map and I notice that he has joined marines again, and is in the commander seat. We eject him, again......

And his friend jumps in and proceeds to do the exact same thing.
The ppl on my team dont know whats happening so no one votes to eject him.

Around this time I left the game, very disgusted and angry that he ruined my game. All the while he was saying how fun it was....

Well, that was my rant. I hoped you enjoyed it and can now recognize when to eject the commander in time.
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  • A-JimA-Jim Join Date: 2002-10-19 Member: 1549Members
    hmmmm next patch mebbe?
    can't switch teams till next round manually
    auto switch only when teams are unbalanced.
  • MindmeldmeMindmeldme The Evil One Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1637Members
    I tend to command a lot when I am playing. In games as [GTW]The Evil One. I have actually heard of that once or twice...someone joining a team or switching teams...then jumping in the command spot and selling everything leaving the marines helpless. I actually was in one server commanding...my team was doing well, very happy with me...when I notice someone started a vote to boot me. I just figured someone must have hit the wrong button but in less then a minute I got booted. Some other guy who had been sitting around the command chair immediatly jumped in and didn't do anything for about 3 minuntes. It took about a minute or so till my team realized I was commanding and starting asking me what happened. When I explained they booted the commander and told me to get back in. Then I found that I was unable to be commander again for a few hours on that server...The marines were not happy.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    There's not much way to stop this except when you're in the command chair, stay there.
    Changing comms in the middle of a game is generally a bad idea.
  • AdenAden Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4383Members
    I've had this happen once, I was like "You know what you're doing?", then he was laughing over voice-comm and recycled everything, we kicked him from the comm seat, then he switched teams. Very annoying. We managed to build up enough to stop them from rushing though.
  • FunkTheMonkFunkTheMonk Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4933Members
    *shakes head* i believe this is what i want to do to that fool <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NightShadeNightShade Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2219Members
    well at least the aliens won <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • jakes_snakejakes_snake Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7177Members
    edited November 2002
    The aliens could have won thru teamwork and communication.

    I dont really see how this can be addressed in a patch seeing as the means to eject
    the commander are already in place.

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  • Malice_101Malice_101 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3389Members
    This happened to me just yesterday.

    It was my first time really playing as marines. The aliens had a good team so it was a challenge. We had a good commander. Naughty me, i can't remember his name. Anyway, this fool called Rico comes on and Immeadiately say, and I quote,
    "Get out of teh CC n00b. I'm a better commander."
    He then proceeds to start a vote and most of us scream
    "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T VOTE HIM OFF!"
    He had some buddies on the server though because our excellent commander got kicked and this laughable moron climbs in saying,

    "Yea, now i'm the king of commanding! That n00b nevah even upgraded" (god knows what he was talking about because I believe we had a full tech tree.)

    What does he do you ask? Nothing.... absolutely nothing. He refuses to give the people who didn't kick the old commander anything and builds nothing except a few phase gates we never really needed. Needless to say he was kicked straight away and most left in disgust. Those who stayed were treated to one of his mates climbing in and proceeding to take down some our turret defences. We voted him out and then I left.

    Quoted from another message board: "The more people I meet, the more I love my dog."
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    unfortunatly, people will always be out to ruin a good time.

    Perhaps Flayra could code something that would only allow you to join one team, readyroom and spectator untill a new round starts (IE, not being able to goto the other team till a new round starts).

    Unfortunatly - this could cause problems, such as 3 Marines dropping out of the game and having the Aliens with too many players.

    Its one of those things though ...

    damned if you do, damned if you dont.
  • FunkTheMonkFunkTheMonk Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4933Members
    actually you could hire people called Tony to get them drinks
  • Malice_101Malice_101 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3389Members
    Drinks laced with copious amounts of arsnic! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    How about coding it so that once you've commanded for the marines, if you're ejected/log out, you can't join the aliens. Sweet simple and you can't fork the marines over and switch sides.
  • PlaguedPlagued Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3454Members
    That isn't a bad idea. It might encourage better command structure by putting that much more pressure on the head honcho.
  • NullzeroNullzero Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6968Members
    I hate it when some newb on the Alien team builds a Sensory Tower as our first tower <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> It REALLY screws the team over <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

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    Nullzero
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ZeroByte+Nov 5 2002, 10:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZeroByte @ Nov 5 2002, 10:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How about coding it so that once you've commanded for the marines, if you're ejected/log out, you can't join the aliens. Sweet simple and you can't fork the marines over and switch sides.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or reverse it so that if you were on the aliens you CAN'T be commander for some period of time. Otherwise players could still switch screw up the marines, then just stay on marines, or disconnect and reconnect. If you make it so they can't be commander for say, 10 minutes, i doubt they would switch and then just wait around ten minutes to do that.
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
  • DarkSim2DarkSim2 Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6965Members
    hhahahaaha LMAOROFL. thats the funniest way to screw your team iv ever heard off. i think i will try it a few times. :o)
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I really hope you aren't serious
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    How about only the commander who built the stuff could recycle it?

    or have a certain amount of waiting time before you can recycle another building?
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Null, it does not.

    The sensory chamber is just as good as the movement chamber or defensive chambers.

    They all have good points, they all have draw backs.

    No chamber is the wrong choice, none is the correct.
  • FunkTheMonkFunkTheMonk Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4933Members
    i agree with silver fox, you build a sensory tower you get cloak, you build a defensive tower you get a healing chamber etc
  • VitalMindVitalMind Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2867Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Acrobad+Nov 6 2002, 05:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acrobad @ Nov 6 2002, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How about only the commander who built the stuff could recycle it?

    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I like that idea..question is how hard to do and i dont think there would be a way around it, causs ya know some lil ppl always stay up past bed time and mess with us mature ppl *cough* <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SAUnknownSoldierSAUnknownSoldier Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2482Members
    So to summarize all the ideas here:

    1. If you have commanded for the Marines, you may not join the Kharaa team for x minutes. (x = 30 minutes?)
    2. If you have been on the Kharaa team, you cannot command for the Marines for x minutes (x = 30 minutes?)
    3. If you have just become the Commander, you can not recycle previously built buildings for x minutes (not sure I like this one)

    and a couple of my own ideas:

    4. Items 1-3 are tracked by WONid so you can not log off the server and 'reset' the counters then log back on and enjoy the fruits of your mischief.
    5. A check for 'malicious recycling' could be made, if you have x resources and the commander has recycled y resources rapidly, he is ejected. So if you already have 500 resources and the commander suddenly recycles 10 buildings back to back, the system recognizes what he's doing and boots him out of the CC.
    6. A commander can never recycle the next-to-last CC. This prevents him from allowing the Kharaa to destroy the one he's in while he's gotten rid of all the other ones.
  • The_SeerThe_Seer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5250Members
    The same exact thing happened to me earlier today, were you there? The EFTel server, someone recycled all our junk and built nothing but infantry spawns. This was ns_eclipse. We got wasted that round and a new batch of players came in, I swear, every single one of them were very bad n00bs, all that wanted to command absolutely as soon as possible. I learned some of the worst things a Commander can do there. As soon as the next game started, a guy built 8 infantry portals, and did nothing else for about 5 minutes. I decided to eject him with the best interests of our team, and as soon as I get in, he ejects me, and somehow succeeds.

    I decide to stick around, and someone else gets in, and builds two phase gates, both RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, in our main base no less. In fact, he was going to make a third right next to them as well, but no one built it and it eventually got destroyed. It almost got worse, as he let resources pile up. What does he do? Build four Arms Labs of course.

    By this time we were officially screwed, and someone else somewhat decent got in, but figured that our last alternative was to build nothing but a billion turrets in our base. What a long horrifying game that was.
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SA|UnknownSoldier+Nov 6 2002, 01:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SA|UnknownSoldier @ Nov 6 2002, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    3. If you have just become the Commander, you can not recycle previously built buildings for x minutes (not sure I like this one)
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    Actually by that, i mean, the same commander who just recycled something can not recycle another building for another x amount of time... kind of like, it takes time to evolve into a gorg... commander takes time to recycle buildings...? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AtziluthAtziluth Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1995Members
    I think a plea to the server admins would help too... I know it did with DOD.... Get a list going of people who abuse the CC... not bad commanders cause everyone needs to learn... but flagrent abuse like described... then circulate the list to ban their wonIDs. This activity will quickly stop.
  • Cypher_XCypher_X Join Date: 2002-08-26 Member: 1234Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SA|UnknownSoldier+Nov 6 2002, 06:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SA|UnknownSoldier @ Nov 6 2002, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. If you have commanded for the Marines, you may not join the Kharaa team for x minutes. (x = 30 minutes?)
    2. If you have been on the Kharaa team, you cannot command for the Marines for x minutes (x = 30 minutes?)
    3. If you have just become the Commander, you can not recycle previously built buildings for x minutes (not sure I like this one)

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    5. A check for 'malicious recycling' could be made, if you have x resources and the commander has recycled y resources rapidly, he is ejected. So if you already have 500 resources and the commander suddenly recycles 10 buildings back to back, the system recognizes what he's doing and boots him out of the CC.
    6. A commander can never recycle the next-to-last CC. This prevents him from allowing the Kharaa to destroy the one he's in while he's gotten rid of all the other ones.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm I donno about all these things.

    1 and 2 I like but you have to also remember that in most situations this can be a huge pain. I don't want to explain all and I'm sure you can see why.

    #3 I definatly do not agree with. What happens if some llama gets in first and puts down a ton of non-escential items. Like 20 armories. You want to be able to go into the command console and recycle all that stuff. If not you waste valuable time. Expecially at the beginning of a game.

    #5 -- Me likes

    #6 -- Hrmmm what if you need the resources and decide that second CC is just a waste?

    Most of these are good suggestions but you also ahve to think that A LOT of the community is going to be some sort of clan/group/team. Some of these could get in the way of clans that know what they're doing and need it done that way for reasons that only time can tell.
  • FeanaroFeanaro Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7258Members
    edited November 2002
    The best answer would be a higher vote percentage required to kick and a recycle "checker" of some sort. If you recycle more than "x" amount of buildings within a period of time you are booted from the chair.
  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    Yeah, I remember my second NS game, where there were 2 marines and one alien.

    One guy went commanding and I was the marine who just followed his orders. It worked out brilliantly because we both learnt heaps about the game really quickly. Unfortunately, after about an hour, so (&T*(^%*&(*&(*%$%%$#$&&%^*((^*&^()*$&^$#%$&$^& came into the server and started a vote to kick the commander. The kick succeeded for some stupid reason (perhaps comm's opinion doesn' matter in a kick, so it was 50/50 between the guy who vote the comm out and me who didn't vote and instead hurled abuse at the newcomer.

    What got me even more annoyed was that as soon as the vote passed the new-comer left again. I saw him a few more times, doing the same thing, so I guess his gig was just to go round kicking commanders for the hell of it...

    Is there anyway to vote "no" against comms kick, or does not voting count as "no"?

    Ah what do I care, I play aliens now anyway...
  • MrFluffyMrFluffy Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6953Members
    I agree with Atziluth there, I think the best solution is to turn to the server admin(s) rather than a software fix. That's generally the only way to stop really lame behaviour <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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