Configs That Darken Ns Gameplay...

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  • Revenant7Revenant7 Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25010Members
    edited June 2004
    The only thing I've got to disagree with dill is the whole lastinv deal. FFS you can bind that to a key in the options menu. How is that lame? I bind it to q and it does everything these idiots are digging into the game code to do. Jump with a skulk, have bite on lastinv, and mid jump, hit q, and bites out. Same with fade. Fast inv switch is also useful... there is so many legit ways to play the game I just do not understand WHY people even want to use scripts. It's not even fair, I dont want to use scripts, and I WILL not, but I'm forced to deal with script kiddies all the time, where they have an unfair advntage over me, while I have to use my own fast reflexes and skills to kill them, but they can just press a key, fly into me, and hit me, all by pressing a key, whereas I would have to line up, select leap/blink, click to leap/blink, then quickly switch to bite/swipe to hit them, and time it just right as well, but it's fine they can do that all in the pressing of a key.. right? Of course it is. I understand there are drawbacks to using scripts, but not nearly enough to make the fair to use.
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    ^-Me ^-Script kiddie.

    (angry.. hm, because they cant play the game the fun, legit way)

    If you cant play fairly, go back to CS. Thats all I've got to say. Your not welcome here, we dont want you to play for keelz and to show off your 1337 skeelz, teamwork or go play CS.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablus+Jun 20 2004, 11:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jun 20 2004, 11:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Thats why i hate flayra for bringing the lame scoreboard back for kills. For it has spawned all of this "OMG HERES A COOL SCRIPT THAT WILL H3|P j00 K1ll LI3K 50 ALi3NS!1111 W1TH 25 Bull3ts!!11" kiddies who are starting to turn NS from a teamplay mod to another, little teamwork CS mod in space.

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    Someone shld post this in the I&S fourms!
  • IceBaronIceBaron Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13954Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablus+Jun 20 2004, 11:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jun 20 2004, 11:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NS is becoming more of a hassel for the commanders and serious alien players because a marine would rather Spam voice chat for a HMG to see how many aliens he can kill so he can look L337, rather then welding that phase gate outside a hive which is about to fall. The scoreboard only encouranges more rambo's. When NS is trying to get rid of the rambos and encourage more teamwork. Ive seen more teamwork in 1.0 with the kill counter and 2.0 with no scoreboard. but 3.0 seems to be a **** "lets see how l337 my score is today, screw my team" these days <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is at this point that you join a clan. We don't have these problems in scrims and matches.
  • antigoodplayerantigoodplayer Join Date: 2004-05-05 Member: 28484Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CrS+Jun 19 2004, 12:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrS @ Jun 19 2004, 12:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (im trying to get a script here to work, so i can just pull up knife and continue attacking with it by scrolling wheel)
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    alias +knife "slot3; +attack"
    alias -knife "-attack; -attack; slot1; -attack; -attack"

    bind "F9" "bind mouse2 +knife"





    that will (when activated (F9)) pull out knife, and slash until you let go of mouse2, then it will swap back to LMG (or slot1 weapon)
    I been using it a lot lately <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    works good for leap too.
  • solcottsolcott Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22307Members
    the only thing i have to say about scripts is

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS was meant to be played without the console. Any command or behavior that requires the console or a custom .cfg to operate is considered an exploit and won't be allowed in official competitive play, whenever enforceable<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> - n-s.org F.A.Q.

    and i agree, i think people using custom cfg files will ruin the game the way cs was ruined.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hobojoe+Jun 22 2004, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Jun 22 2004, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> except cs isn't ruined, it's far bigger then ns. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bigger does not mean better. Even though it has a larger playerbase it does not mean its not "ruined" in his pov.


    pov= Point Of View
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    dillinja and diablus said it all.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CoolCookieCooks+Jun 23 2004, 01:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CoolCookieCooks @ Jun 23 2004, 01:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dillinja and diablus said it all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    People will stop using scripts when there are no good players in NS, scoreboard or not.
  • Once_OnlyOnce_Only Join Date: 2004-05-15 Member: 28700Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Revenant759+Jun 22 2004, 01:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Revenant759 @ Jun 22 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing I've got to disagree with dill is the whole lastinv deal. FFS you can bind that to a key in the options menu. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hud_fastswitch 1 (or is it cl_fastswitch 1?) lets you use the number keys without seeing the weapon menu art. Unless you have more than one weapon in that slot (mines, wleder, gren) I find that ive accidentally lastinv'ed to parasite too many times.
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I am a controll freak in games, if i want to be good i learn all the movements and keycombos in manny hours of practice, only me and nothing else is controlling the situation. I tryed manny of the scripts shown here, just for the test. Man i asked myself wth is this all about... I was so bad, i couldn't do precize actions, as scripts do manny things at once. I didn't like the feeling that there was something controlling my play.
    So i said "scripts be gone!" and they were gone, forever !
  • solcottsolcott Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22307Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dillinja+Jun 21 2004, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dillinja @ Jun 21 2004, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i myself use to admin a server it is the most popular 2.01
    server in europe and it is absolutly script free since every
    scripter gets kicked. btw the gameplay is perfect the players
    are skilled (weapon changing over the num keys, have to
    point it out since no one does it and only uses this lame last inv), <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    do you know any good steam servers like this (i am one of the admins on a steam server and scripters there are treated to a permaban instead of a kick and i think kick/bans for scripters are great)

    and also i thought most ppl do use the numbers 1-4 instead of lastinv cuz you dont have to screw around with switching to bite and then to leap so you can leapbite someone etc etc
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    Omg, lastinv is godlike.

    As you spawn press 2, 1 (replace 2 with number of desired lastinv...)
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a steam server and scripters there are treated to a permaban instead of a kick and i think kick/bans for scripters are great)

    and also i thought most ppl do use the numbers 1-4 instead of lastinv cuz you dont have to screw around with switching to bite and then to leap so you can leapbite someone etc etc <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    i wish i knew more servers like that

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->except cs isn't ruined, it's far bigger then ns. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <span style='color:purple'>one reason being its like how many years old, hardly any teamplay skills required for pups, HARDLY any1 who plays CS know about NS (if i had a penny for the amount of CS playing m8s of mine ive converted to cs i'd be bill Gates)
    CS is simplier to get into (and dull and boring not to mention repetative, plus u get an update every few months updated a map or some steam releated junk that no1 cares about.)

    Counter-Strike Cannot be compared to NS ...imo</span>
  • solcottsolcott Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22307Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-waller+Jun 23 2004, 12:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (waller @ Jun 23 2004, 12:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Omg, lastinv is godlike.

    As you spawn press 2, 1 (replace 2 with number of desired lastinv...) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah or i could just as quickly press the number of the weapon i want to use, i mean really the highest weapon number is 4 how much of a chore is it to reach my fingers from the WASD to the numbers right above them? i could see lastinv having a use if this were like duke3d or soemthing and i had to reach all the way over to 9, but just pushing the number is better because you ALWAYS get the weapon you want without having to worry about getting your lastinv weapon set up before you go info a fight.
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If people have to use that many scripts to be "1337", then they shouldn't play. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We don't need comments like this, if you can't take this thread don't &/"#¤%" post a damn reply i hate this.

    If you can't take scripts either, you think they do everything for you, you see it as everything i can't do shouldn't be allowed.

    And for the love of god(or budha, christ, asian gods, jupitor, romen gods.) don't make stupid replies to this.
  • CrSCrS Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27096Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Jun 24 2004, 10:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Jun 24 2004, 10:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If people have to use that many scripts to be "1337", then they shouldn't play. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We don't need comments like this, if you can't take this thread don't &/"#¤%" post a damn reply i hate this.

    If you can't take scripts either, you think they do everything for you, you see it as everything i can't do shouldn't be allowed.

    And for the love of god(or budha, christ, asian gods, jupitor, romen gods.) don't make stupid replies to this.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Thank god someone has figured this thread out... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    Could someone explain this newb what the command lastinv does, and how it is used?
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We don't need comments like this, if you can't take this thread don't &/"#¤%" post a damn reply i hate this.

    If you can't take scripts either, you think they do everything for you, you see it as everything i can't do shouldn't be allowed.

    And for the love of god(or budha, christ, asian gods, jupitor, romen gods.) don't make stupid replies to this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ppl are open to thier opinions and ojections ...deal with it
  • CrSCrS Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27096Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake]=-+Jun 24 2004, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake]=- @ Jun 24 2004, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We don't need comments like this, if you can't take this thread don't &/"#¤%" post a damn reply i hate this.

    If you can't take scripts either, you think they do everything for you, you see it as everything i can't do shouldn't be allowed.

    And for the love of god(or budha, christ, asian gods, jupitor, romen gods.) don't make stupid replies to this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ppl are open to thier opinions and ojections ...deal with it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Drake, in this thread I asked / begged all of you specifically NOT to, as you somewhat put it, have their own opinons and o(b)jections, so we did NOT have to "deal with it", OK? This was supposed to be an informative Thread, where people could get a glimpse of how little/much you can manipulate the engine as it is. This has currently NOT been the case, exept for the two posts made by Kaine (thank you), as 80% of this thread HAS infact degraded into what I feared, a capital whinefest, as usual. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Please do not try to excuse other peoples behaviour, when your own view (as the likes of you) infact has not added anything to this thread.

    PS. I had given up on this thread until I read Diablo_fx's post, so please respect how I intended to have this thread built up in all further posts. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Jun 24 2004, 03:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Jun 24 2004, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jimmeh+Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jun 19 2004, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If people have to use that many scripts to be "1337", then they shouldn't play. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We don't need comments like this, if you can't take this thread don't &/"#¤%" post a damn reply i hate this.

    If you can't take scripts either, you think they do everything for you, you see it as everything i can't do shouldn't be allowed.

    And for the love of god(or budha, christ, asian gods, jupitor, romen gods.) don't make stupid replies to this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    its just the fact that we are getting a tad annoyed having the customization forum half full of script topics, never had one before 3.0 :/
  • Billy_SilverfishBilly_Silverfish Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15688Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-CrS+Jun 24 2004, 09:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrS @ Jun 24 2004, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->=-,Jun 24 2004, 01:19 PM]
    ppl are open to thier opinions and ojections ...deal with it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (1) Drake, in this thread I asked / begged all of you specifically NOT to, as you somewhat put it, have their own opinons and o(b)jections, so we did NOT have to "deal with it", OK? This was supposed to be an informative Thread, where people could get a glimpse of how little/much you can manipulate the engine as it is. This has currently NOT been the case, exept for the two posts made by Kaine (thank you), as 80% of this thread HAS infact degraded into what I feared, a capital whinefest, as usual. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    (2) Please do not try to excuse other peoples behaviour, when your own view (as the likes of you) infact has not added anything to this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (1) You can request people don't voice their objections, but that's hardly realistic on such a contentious topic. The people who believe that some scripts (including ones you posted) are cheating, and I am one of them, believe it fairly passionately. Online games are no fun if the playing field is not level.

    (Unless of course you derive your fun from fraghunting, in which case I wouldn't consider you welcome in any games I play.)

    (2) A valid point, but what may I ask does this thread contribute to the NS community?
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited June 2004
    The ignorance is astounding in this thread. Scripting does NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT make you better. More competent? Yes. But if you can't aim, that pistol script is worthless, if you can't handle your skulk, that leapbite script is worthless (like they had any worth in the first place, same with blinkslash scripts), if you can't get the motions down, that +3jumps is just going to leve you bouncing around like a moron.

    Yes, there are exploitive scripts (that "fly" script posted here (infinite leap?), the "sniper mode" one also, that's doing stuff that wasn't intended to be done in the game) but don't lump EVERY script in the same pile. Stuff like Romano's clientside lanstinv is a godsend for people who ping higher than 100 or so (because lastinv is a serverside command, so it can and WILL lag when you need it) The +3jumps script makes BHop timing MUCH easier and less tedious. Yet the same can be done by binding jump to the mousewheel. Same with pistol scripts and binding +attack to mousewheel. OMG TEH MOSEWEEL IS HAX BANT.

    Not to mention that fact the whole standard half life config would, for all intents and purposes be a script in itself.

    Don't like scripts? That's fine. But don't call anyone and everyone who uses one a cheater. Most are just people who want things running smoother. The actual "exploiters" are a pretty small minority. Not everything is black and white.

    At the very least educate yourself on how they work. Don't go by word of mouth only, that's just asking for trouble in itself. The amount of things I see that are skill which people pass off as "scripting ****" is immense.
  • CrSCrS Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27096Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Billy Silverfish+Jun 24 2004, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Billy Silverfish @ Jun 24 2004, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-CrS+Jun 24 2004, 09:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrS @ Jun 24 2004, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--=[Drake+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=[Drake)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->=-,Jun 24 2004, 01:19 PM]
    ppl are open to thier opinions and ojections ...deal with it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (1) Drake, in this thread I asked / begged all of you specifically NOT to, as you somewhat put it, have their own opinons and o(b)jections, so we did NOT have to "deal with it", OK? This was supposed to be an informative Thread, where people could get a glimpse of how little/much you can manipulate the engine as it is. This has currently NOT been the case, exept for the two posts made by Kaine (thank you), as 80% of this thread HAS infact degraded into what I feared, a capital whinefest, as usual.

    (2) Please do not try to excuse other peoples behaviour, when your own view (as the likes of you) infact has not added anything to this thread. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    (1) You can request people don't voice their objections, but that's hardly realistic on such a contentious topic. The people who believe that some scripts (including ones you posted) are cheating, and I am one of them, believe it fairly passionately. Online games are no fun if the playing field is not level.

    (Unless of course you derive your fun from fraghunting, in which case I wouldn't consider you welcome in any games I play.)

    (2) A valid point, but what may I ask does this thread contribute to the NS community?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    1) You can't blame me for trying though <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> .

    2) Basicly just that I have read several times over, that scripts and other material like it arent publically available. So I got sick of seing these endless threads of whine, and decided I would try (try, mind you) my best to put an end to, atleast, this <b>one</b> aspect of it. As an effort to show people whether or not scripting gives you an advantage, how big of an advantage, and lastly to give people the chance to try various (preferably many many more than I know of) scripts, this thread was made. I genuinely hope this answers your question.



    I would also like to excuse myself of any lingual errors, I'm not an english-speaking native <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Billy_SilverfishBilly_Silverfish Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15688Members
    edited June 2004
    Seph - I think you'll find that the majority of anti script people in this thread have been careful to say that not all scripts are exploits, and have only been picking on the "artificially enhancing" ones. Dont' be so quick to turn on your rantmode. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I have used one script for pretty much all my years of online HL, which halves my mouse sensitivity while a button is held down. It makes me more accurate, sure, but it's no cheat - it is merely compensating for my limited desk space and my need for a high sensitivity because of that.

    ---

    Edited to reply to CrS:

    It is a noble goal I suppose, to make these scripts available. Had you not included things like the leap exploit I'm pretty sure the only flames you'd have gotten would have been groans of "oh, not another scripting thread"

    Also, your English is fine. Probably better than many native speakers on these boards ... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CrSCrS Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27096Members
    In my first post I included a statement; "im particulary proud of this, since i've made it myself". That wasn't some coincidense, I was fairly aware that that might be interpretated as agitating, but it's nontheless true, I <i>was</i> very proud of it.
    Also, the zoom script was just an idea I got from another thread here, I didn't even know you could adjust field of view like that until someone pointed out how default_fov 120 was probably the best view. Actually all of the scripts I have presented (and yes, I know some more) I have gotten from reading through nothing but topics on the subject on this very board.

    Finally, my point; The reason I chose to present "fly.cfg" (it's not like you fly, try it urselves) was cuz it's probably the one script I know of that would maybe, just maybe, entice others to "show me off", or "better" me... Unfortunately, this did not occur.
    For my part, it's safe to say, I'm ready to let this thread die out. It has not, and will most likely not be what I intended in the first place.
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> [thread]

    Also I like the idea of having one button assigned to lower sensitivity (somewhat like i tried to implement into the whole zoom thingy) <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
    I would, as I wont show much more interest in the further development of this thread, like to say one last thing: Scripts are far from necessary, I have never belived them to be skill-enhancing or otherwise vet-making. I began experimenting with scripts about 2 months ago, when my entusiasm for NS took a harsh beating, just as a way to "hang in there". Previously I had not used any scripts, tweaks (lightgamma 1) etc. and my team was capable of competing all of the european top ranked clans.
    That was just a final word, so I might be let off the whole "YUo Scr|ptz0r aNd Shu0|d l34rn tah g@m3"- hook.

    <span style='color:orange'>btw; Thx Billy, though I probably have many more errors in this post.</span> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • -Drake--Drake- -dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ- Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15125Members
    edited June 2004
    u cant post something that has an entire community divided over

    some ppl dont like exploitive scripts some ppl do

    making them available is just going to annoy those ppl (like me)
    while providing other ppl with the scripts so they to can ruin Ns

    my views are are shared with alot of the NS community so thinking ur thread is being ruined by some ppl making it.. <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->a capital whinefest, as usual<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not send the imprestion that not 100% want NS forum filled with topics releasing them into the community.
  • I_Gorged_Your_MomI_Gorged_Your_Mom Join Date: 2003-10-01 Member: 21361Banned, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    Hmm yeah that infinite leap script is looking good. The zoom looks worth looking into as well. Here is my userconfig.

    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
    //client lastinv
    //
    bind 1 "kk1a"
    bind 2 "kk2a"
    bind 3 "kk3a"
    bind 4 "kk4a"

    alias kk1a "kkslot1"
    alias kk1b "kkslot1; bind MWHEELUP kk2a"
    alias kk1c "kkslot1; bind MWHEELUP kk3a"
    alias kk1d "kkslot1; bind MWHEELUP kk4a"
    alias kkslot1 "slot1; bind 1 kk1a; bind 2 kk2a; bind 3 kk3a; bind 4 kk4a"

    alias kk2a "kkslot2; bind MWHEELUP kk1b"
    alias kk2b "kkslot2"
    alias kk2c "kkslot2; bind MWHEELUP kk3b"
    alias kk2d "kkslot2; bind MWHEELUP kk4b"
    alias kkslot2 "slot2; bind 1 kk1b; bind 2 kk2b; bind 3 kk3b; bind 4 kk4b"

    alias kk3a "kkslot3; bind MWHEELUP kk1c"
    alias kk3b "kkslot3; bind MWHEELUP kk2c"
    alias kk3c "kkslot3"
    alias kk3d "kkslot3; bind MWHEELUP kk4c"
    alias kkslot3 "slot3; bind 1 kk1c; bind 2 kk2c; bind 3 kk3c; bind 4 kk4c"

    alias kk4a "kkslot4; bind MWHEELUP kk1d"
    alias kk4b "kkslot4; bind MWHEELUP kk2d"
    alias kk4c "kkslot4; bind MWHEELUP kk3d"
    alias kk4d "kkslot4"
    alias kkslot4 "slot4; bind 1 kk1d; bind 2 kk2d; bind 3 kk3d; bind 4 kk4d"

    //status dump
    //
    bind * "status; condump"

    // netscores
    //
    alias +netscores "+showscores;net_graph 1"
    alias -netscores "-showscores;net_graph 0"
    bind TAB "+netscores"

    //jumpy jump
    //
    alias +3jump "+jump; -jump; wait; +jump; wait; -jump; wait; +jump; wait; -jump; wait; +jump mclr"    
    alias -3jump "-jump;"
    bind space "+3jump"

    //duck jump
    //
    alias +djump "+jump; +duck"
    alias -djump "-jump; -duck"
    bind alt "+djump"

    //jumping
    //
    alias mlerk "bind space +djump; bind alt +3jump"
    alias allelse "bind space +3jump; bind alt +djump"
    bind 6 "mlerk"
    bind 7 "allelse"

    //duck toggle
    //
    alias duck_on "alias duck duck_off; +duck"
    alias duck_off "alias duck duck_on; -duck"
    alias duck duck_on
    bind 5 "duck"

    //pistol script
    //
    alias +pscript "+attack"
    alias -pscript "-attack; wait; +attack; wait; -attack"
    bind mouse1 "+pscript"

    //ex_interp
    //
    ex_interp "0.00"
    alias ex_interp

    //controls
    //
    bind 1 "slot1"
    bind 2 "slot2"
    bind 3 "slot3"
    bind 4 "slot4"
    bind mwheeldown "lastinv"
    bind MWHEELUP "lastinv"
    bind "ESCAPE" "cancelselect"
    bind "-" "impulse 3"
    bind "`" "toggleconsole"
    bind "a" "+moveleft"
    bind "b" "impulse 92"
    bind "c" "impulse 8"
    bind "d" "+moveright"
    bind "e" "+use"
    bind "f" "impulse 100"
    bind "g" "impulse 11"
    bind "h" "impulse 10"
    bind "i" "impulse 80"
    bind "j" "impulse 13"
    bind "k" "+voicerecord"
    bind "m" "impulse 94"
    bind "n" "impulse 93"
    bind "o" "impulse 81"
    bind "p" "impulse 12"
    bind "q" "impulse 7"
    bind "r" "+reload"
    bind "s" "+back"
    bind "t" "impulse 9"
    bind "u" "messagemode2"
    bind "v" "impulse 91"
    bind "w" "+forward"
    bind "x" "impulse 15"
    bind "y" "messagemode"
    bind "z" "impulse 14"
    bind "," "impulse 90"
    bind "~" "toggleconsole"
    bind "CTRL" "+duck"
    bind "SHIFT" "+speed"
    bind "F1" "jointeamone"
    bind "F2" "jointeamtwo"
    bind "F3" "spectate"
    bind "F4" "readyroom"
    bind "F5" "snapshot"
    bind "F6" "say i do whatever i want, to whomever i want, at all times"
    bind "F7" "say that sounds like a personal problem"
    bind "9" "say timeleft"
    bind "0" "say nextmap"
    bind "F8" "say agreed"
    bind "F9" "say pwnt"
    bind "F10" "say sure, if your an idiot"
    bind "F11" "say thats what they all say"
    bind "F12" "say thats not what your mother said last night"
    bind "INS" "say_team /stuck"
    bind "home" "say_team /res"
    bind "end" "say_team /rec"
    bind "DEL" "kill"
    bind "MOUSE2" "+popupmenu"
    bind "MOUSE3" "+showmap"
    bind "MOUSE4" "impulse 3"
    bind "MOUSE5" "invprev"

    //settings
    //
    _snd_mixahead "0.1"
    ati_npatch "1.0"
    ati_subdiv "2.0"
    bgmvolume "0.000000"
    bottomcolor "6"
    brightness "1.000000"
    cl_allowdownload "1"
    cl_allowupload "1"
    cl_autohelp "0"
    cl_buildmessages "1"
    cl_centerentityid "0"
    cl_cmdbackup "2"
    cl_cmdrate "101"
    cl_cmhotkeys "qwerasdfzxcv"
    cl_dlmax "128"
    cl_download_ingame "1"
    cl_dynamiclights "1"
    cl_forcedefaultfov "0"
    cl_highdetail "1"
    cl_himodels "0"
    cl_idealpitchscale "0.8"
    cl_lc "1"
    cl_logocolor "#Valve_Orange"
    cl_logofile "lambda"
    cl_lw "1"
    cl_musicdelay "0.000000"
    cl_musicdirectory ""
    cl_musicenabled "0"
    cl_musicvolume "150.000000"
    cl_particleinfo "0"
    cl_quickselecttime "0.500000"
    cl_timeout "305"
    cl_updaterate "101"
    cl_vsmoothing "0.05"
    con_color "255 155 50"
    console "1.0"
    crosshair "1.000000"
    fps_max "100"
    fps_modem "100"
    gamma "2.500000"
    gl_dither "1"
    gl_flipmatrix "0"
    gl_monolights "0"
    gl_overbright "0"
    gl_polyoffset "4"
    hisound "1"
    hpk_maxsize "0"
    hud_capturemouse "1"
    hud_centerid "0"
    hud_classautokill "1"
    hud_draw "1"
    hud_fastswitch "1"
    hud_takesshots "0"
    joystick "0"
    lookspring "0.000000"
    lookstrafe "0.000000"
    m_filter "1"
    m_forward "1"
    m_pitch "-0.022000"
    m_side "0.8"
    m_yaw "0.022"
    model "gordon"
    MP3FadeTime "2.0"
    MP3Volume "0.800000"
    mp_decals "300.000000"
    name "Xandier (God Emperor)"
    net_graph "0"
    net_graphpos "2"
    net_graphwidth "200"
    net_scale "5"
    rate "25000"
    r_bmodelhighfrac "5.0"
    r_detailtextures "0"
    s_a3d "0.0"
    s_automax_distance "30.0"
    s_automin_distance "2.0"
    s_bloat "2.0"
    s_distance "60"
    s_doppler "0.0"
    s_eax "0.0"
    s_leafnum "0"
    s_max_distance "1000.0"
    s_min_distance "8.0"
    s_numpolys "200"
    s_polykeep "1000000000"
    s_polysize "10000000"
    s_refdelay "4"
    s_refgain "0.4"
    s_rolloff "1.0"
    s_verbwet "0.25"
    sensitivity "4.5"
    skin ""
    suitvolume "0.250000"
    sv_aim "0"
    sv_voiceenable "1"
    team ""
    topcolor "30"
    viewsize "120.000000"
    voice_enable "1"
    voice_forcemicrecord "1.000000"
    voice_modenable "1"
    voice_scale "1"
    volume "0.700000"
    setinfo "friends" "0"
    +mlook<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    Script. Exploit. Use bugs. Show the devs what is wrong with this game they have made, and maybe they will do something about it. It is the way of progress. Do any of you rememeber "stopcommandermode" exploit? How about the "impulse 119, 120, and 122"? Remember how you used to be able to fire every bullet in you pistol AT THE SAME TIME? Rememeber when "_special" still worked? How do you think these were fixed? Because more and more people knew about them, the devs had to fix them. TELL EVERYONE ALL YOUR SCRIPTS AND EXPLOITS. The more people know, the more of a problem it will become, and sooner these problems will be fixed. This works the same in the real world too. Getting lots of robberies? Invent a security system. Rampant diseases? Create cures. If there is a problem, it must be fixed, and the bigger a problem it becomes, the more urgent it is to fix it. You want these scripts to be hidden? Fine with me. Then I will be the only one to be able to use them, me and the elite few. I am doing this for your good, it hurts me a lot more than it hurts you.
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Now we have a rather excellent bugtracker for this sort of thing. You report an issue, then you make a thread about it, and others talk about their experiences with it. As the thread grows, it gains attention. Posting an exploit just ensures that more random fools will use it until it is fixed, and unfortunately it may not be fixed faster at all. Hilariously enough, the last people I saw to use the "We do this so the Devs will notice it and fix it" reasoning were a couple of myg0t fellows who visited #ns for a while, advertising a hack.
  • I_Gorged_Your_MomI_Gorged_Your_Mom Join Date: 2003-10-01 Member: 21361Banned, Constellation
    The bug tracker is retarded, and hacks, scripts, and exploits are completly different things.
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