<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, right, now you're going to tell me that ST1 was a metaphorical look at our greedy capitalism society in a changing world blahblahblah hippy newage **** goes here.
It had a **** script, **** actors, a **** storyline, **** plotholes, **** concepts, and the whole thing was ****. I could **** in my DVD player and beat a baby to death with it and it'd be more entertaining then ST1.
It should've come with a new rating: YOUR IQ MUST BE THIS LOW TO ENJOY - From talking to people that actually liked ST1, that's not really far from the truth (this same rating should also apply to Matrix 2 and 3, which pretty much run the same as ST1: Oh boy we have this potentially great story, let's exapand it- wait, um, people like bullet time, and even though we've been seeing bullet time in movies for the past 4 years now, let's screw the plot and just fill it with cliche, boring special effects) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It was a cry against facism, gg @ u
Am I the only one who thinks that the wrong couple died in the first film? The pilot jerk and the crazy lady should have survived and gotten together instead of the loser hero and his love. It would have been more interesting. Ah, well.
ST is nothing at all like Die Hard. First of all, Bruce Willis not only can actually <b>act</b>, but he looks and fits the role of a badass very well.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap.
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ST is nothing at all like Die Hard. First of all, Bruce Willis not only can actually <b>act</b>, but he looks and fits the role of a badass very well.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src='http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~veggetto/ritalin-os.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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Note: the ****'s in this post are the word "a$$" or "a$$es."
My roommate and his brother have an excellent rating system, the "Five **** Rating System." Have you ever said that something sucks ****? That's where the rating system comes from.
A good, quality film will suck zero ****. As things start to be BAD about a movie, it will suck one ****, or two ****. Three **** is about the bottom of the barrel for decent movies, but there's a special ruleset for the last two ratings.
Five ****: DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE. If you are forced to watch this movie, do your best to scratch out your eyeballs and pop your eardrums before it starts. Gigli sucked five **** (not that anyone saw it, but we feel safe giving it a 5).
Four ****: this movie was laughably bad. Enjoyably bad. You can watch this movie over and over again, pointing out glaring flaws and plot holes big enough to fly a Super Star Destroyer through.
There is always some discussion about a movie that falls into the 4-5 **** span, because a rating of 4 **** is to some degree a matter of taste. For instance, I think <i>The Mummy Returns</i> sucked four ****. Pygmy mummies?! Come on, that's gold!! My roommate, on the other hand, thinks it sucked five ****. His rationale: pygmy ****ing mummies? What the hell were they thinking?
Similarly, I thought <i>The Core</i> sucked a resounding four ****. The pseudoscience that they steeped the entire film in would have instantly struck any self-respecting geologist deaf, dumb, and DEAD on the spot. The money shot: landing inside a giant GEODE hundreds of miles below the Earth's crust and stepping outside to walk around in <i>soft, flexible "pressure" suits</i>. While my roommate and I are in agreement about this rating, our girlfriends will probably never forgive us.
There is one last rating: the <i>There's Something About Mary</i> Award. It was invented for and awarded to only one movie (guess which one). Perhaps one day another movie will claim the title, but There Can Only Be One. ____________
Long story short (too late!): <i>Starship Troopers</i> sucked a solid four ****. It sounds like ST2, however, crosses the threshhold to eye-stabbiness.
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edited June 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 10:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ST is nothing at all like Die Hard. First of all, Bruce Willis not only can actually <b>act</b>, but he looks and fits the role of a badass very well.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The bugs used the plasma to knock the asteroids off course. If i remember correctly, they use asteroids to spore other planets to start new hives. Probably just random that it got knocked towards earth. Earth didn't see that particular one coming because of the fact that the one ship couldn't warn them about it, even though that's a **** poor excuse and it probably just is a plot hole, but there could be reasons i can't be bothere to try and come up with.
Die hard didn't make much sense to me. One guy takes out a terrorist force that has the entire police force terrified to move. I haven't seen the film for ages so i can't remember it that well, but i don't think it really matters.
That whole point about them sending in lightly armed footsoldiers against an unknown enemy without any backup or armour.... well, that's kinda the whole point of the film, really. At least it is in my opinion. Shows the stupidity and stuborness of the humans.
Questioning why a species may have evolved a specific thing is just silly. Why did you evolve a nose that juts out instead of just a space in your face, or why do we have a particular amount of teeth. They're aliens. You have no idea what conditions they evolved under. And they weren't aiming for the battleships. They were just created a battery of plasma up in the air so they'd eventually hit *something*. Even if your computer systems can pick up where the plasma is coming from well in advance, if there's nowhere to move to, you're screwed (as was the case in the film, you can see the cruisers begin to dodge something that hasn't reached them by far, only to dodge into something else because there's nowhere to go).
The whole point of the film is to show human arrogancy and stupidity, and that whole facist state thing. I suppose it depends on the viewer.
I can't argue about the actors though. Jesus, i just wanted them all to die. Especially in that funeral scene where he tries to show that he's fighting to stop crying when it really just seems he's glued his mouth shut. And that bit where the plasma shoots through the screen. <b>They're in space, the cockpit just blew up and flames engulfed the whole room, and only ONE person in there has an injury, and that's just a small scratch</b> .That woman is invincible, i'm sure of it. She gets speared through the back and out very close to the heart (and on the other side of the chest) and then she gets up and runs about, even lifting her arms above her head and around the shoulders of her friend without so much as a grimace. That woman is just not human.
<!--QuoteBegin-Thread summery+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thread summery)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Starship Troopers 2 sucked much ****... Dont ever watch it!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm going to go curl up in a ball in a corner and cry now.
Edit: about my only gripe with the first one is if you watched it carefully you can see when the bugs attacked ONE person, the bugs died faster... but in the scene with 10000000000000000s of stupidly used infantry platoons, the bugs took like 10 people just unloading into them to die.
The One thing i did like about the first ST movie is how they used the "computer interface" to show you around the universe... something I haven't seen when the movie came out.
I told you all it would prob suck and im not going to bother watching it. It looked bad when the first post said :"OMG SST2 COMMING OUT, TOTAL PWNATGE!11" I saw the site and did nothing but laugh on how much this movie will suck. But once again nobody belives good ol diablus. So you all lose and waste 2 hours of your lives
i have to admit that i liked the first starship troopers. It was openly cheesey which makes that fact that it is cheesy ok IMHO. we all knew that the second movie was gonna suck but thats ok, ill still rent it just to see it, if its not any good at least its got some nudity.
and i agree with who ever dissed on eek, i dont think anyone really likes him, he is a bastard
Starship troopers was the turning point in movies.. where they went from less special effects and fun.. to more... and all of you... Starship Troopers 2 is probably just for die-hard fans... who want a sequal, but if you dont like it.. why would you spend your time complaining about it... just stop... its not a big deal, and for all you who say that starship troopers 1 is a crappy flick-you dont know ****! and please... dont make fun of my favorite move...
and BTW... as much as the aliens died... i couldent have enjoyed the brains and **** kickings more... and also, the reoson st2 sucked is cause if you noticed... they closed off the storyline in ST1 when they took the brain bug... ST1 is a very old movie... and if you dont respect it, skrew off!
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<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 02:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ST is nothing at all like Die Hard. First of all, Bruce Willis not only can actually <b>act</b>, but he looks and fits the role of a badass very well.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> dare i say it..?
Wow, you guys should really try and enjoy a nice film. I haven't seen this film yet but when I do I am not going to try and look for all its inconsistencies and awful acting, I am gonna enjoy it. Thats what movies are for, they aren't documentaries on how the earth's core could possibly stop causing the weather to do really weird ****, they are too entertain you! If you don't like being entertained then I suggest you don't watch movies! Although there are a select few movies that aren't worth the trouble like gigli.
ALL OF YOU STOP THINKING!!!!!!!!!! ARGH! this is just a movie where you watch it for the fight scenes, i mean seriously... dont watch the movie if your gunna think that deep into it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jun 12 2004, 12:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jun 12 2004, 12:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 02:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ST is nothing at all like Die Hard. First of all, Bruce Willis not only can actually <b>act</b>, but he looks and fits the role of a badass very well.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> dare i say it..?
Its like <a href='http://www.october.com/media/movie/tremors.jpg' target='_blank'>Tremors</a>, anyone remember that film? It was realeased about 1990, I loved it and when they brought out tremors 2 I got it and it......<a href='http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/90/133790.jpg' target='_blank'>Sucked</a>
Then just to add insult to injury they went and made a<a href='http://www.findcoolmovies.com/coversus/tremor3.jpg' target='_blank'>3rd</a> one....
<b>THEN</b> the sci-fi channel make a <a href='http://www.scifi.com/tremors/' target='_blank'>series</a> of it using the cheapest actors they could find.
I thought Tremors 2 & 3 were better because they didn't take themselves seriously, they were more comedy than horror... If you can call a giant underground **** scary...
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<!--QuoteBegin-Lith Death+Jun 12 2004, 07:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lith Death @ Jun 12 2004, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ALL OF YOU STOP THINKING!!!!!!!!!! ARGH! this is just a movie where you watch it for the fight scenes, i mean seriously... dont watch the movie if your gunna think that deep into it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Watch it for the movie for the Fight scenes? What fight scenes the endless crap of shooting there's nothing in the direction in which they're shooting? Thinking deep into a movie's the best part.
hell's no... i like how rico would jump up on that giant bug shoot down into it... throw a granade into the wound then jump off... that was pretty bad-****... and the fight scene at the base... in the desert area.... i liked that... it wasnt just brainless shooting... you guys need to watch it again
<!--QuoteBegin-Lith Death+Jun 12 2004, 03:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lith Death @ Jun 12 2004, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hell's no... i like how rico would jump up on that giant bug shoot down into it... throw a granade into the wound then jump off... that was pretty bad-****... and the fight scene at the base... in the desert area.... i liked that... it wasnt just brainless shooting... you guys need to watch it again <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> your a good man
I like how when Rico was on the back of the bug, his feet were literally glued to it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LikuI, am the Somberlain.Join Date: 2003-01-10Member: 12128Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Lith Death+Jun 12 2004, 03:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lith Death @ Jun 12 2004, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hell's no... i like how rico would jump up on that giant bug shoot down into it... throw a granade into the wound then jump off... that was pretty bad-****... and the fight scene at the base... in the desert area.... i liked that... it wasnt just brainless shooting... you guys need to watch it again <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm talking about the second movie, the first was good, second wasen't.
Could someone please give a short plot-summary of SST2?
And did anyone know that there was a Duke Nukem 3D mod BASED off of SST1? Actually rather fun... unfortunetly i think the site no longer exists or is active. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
There is a Starship Troopers 2 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Wow ..... I never knew
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<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>SPOILER</span></span> - Not that it matters.
For example, in the scene where the Lieutenant guy was trying to arrest the infested Marines and got killed, we had.
"Oh **** my gun is jammed!"
"Ya, you should of loaded it before coming in the room. You have no ammo."
"AAAAARRGH!"
It had a **** script, **** actors, a **** storyline, **** plotholes, **** concepts, and the whole thing was ****. I could **** in my DVD player and beat a baby to death with it and it'd be more entertaining then ST1.
It should've come with a new rating: YOUR IQ MUST BE THIS LOW TO ENJOY - From talking to people that actually liked ST1, that's not really far from the truth (this same rating should also apply to Matrix 2 and 3, which pretty much run the same as ST1: Oh boy we have this potentially great story, let's exapand it- wait, um, people like bullet time, and even though we've been seeing bullet time in movies for the past 4 years now, let's screw the plot and just fill it with cliche, boring special effects) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was a cry against facism, gg @ u
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Have some on the house
My roommate and his brother have an excellent rating system, the "Five **** Rating System." Have you ever said that something sucks ****? That's where the rating system comes from.
A good, quality film will suck zero ****. As things start to be BAD about a movie, it will suck one ****, or two ****. Three **** is about the bottom of the barrel for decent movies, but there's a special ruleset for the last two ratings.
Five ****: DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE. If you are forced to watch this movie, do your best to scratch out your eyeballs and pop your eardrums before it starts. Gigli sucked five **** (not that anyone saw it, but we feel safe giving it a 5).
Four ****: this movie was laughably bad. Enjoyably bad. You can watch this movie over and over again, pointing out glaring flaws and plot holes big enough to fly a Super Star Destroyer through.
There is always some discussion about a movie that falls into the 4-5 **** span, because a rating of 4 **** is to some degree a matter of taste. For instance, I think <i>The Mummy Returns</i> sucked four ****. Pygmy mummies?! Come on, that's gold!! My roommate, on the other hand, thinks it sucked five ****. His rationale: pygmy ****ing mummies? What the hell were they thinking?
Similarly, I thought <i>The Core</i> sucked a resounding four ****. The pseudoscience that they steeped the entire film in would have instantly struck any self-respecting geologist deaf, dumb, and DEAD on the spot. The money shot: landing inside a giant GEODE hundreds of miles below the Earth's crust and stepping outside to walk around in <i>soft, flexible "pressure" suits</i>. While my roommate and I are in agreement about this rating, our girlfriends will probably never forgive us.
There is one last rating: the <i>There's Something About Mary</i> Award. It was invented for and awarded to only one movie (guess which one). Perhaps one day another movie will claim the title, but There Can Only Be One.
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Long story short (too late!): <i>Starship Troopers</i> sucked a solid four ****. It sounds like ST2, however, crosses the threshhold to eye-stabbiness.
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The bugs used the plasma to knock the asteroids off course. If i remember correctly, they use asteroids to spore other planets to start new hives. Probably just random that it got knocked towards earth.
Earth didn't see that particular one coming because of the fact that the one ship couldn't warn them about it, even though that's a **** poor excuse and it probably just is a plot hole, but there could be reasons i can't be bothere to try and come up with.
Die hard didn't make much sense to me. One guy takes out a terrorist force that has the entire police force terrified to move. I haven't seen the film for ages so i can't remember it that well, but i don't think it really matters.
That whole point about them sending in lightly armed footsoldiers against an unknown enemy without any backup or armour.... well, that's kinda the whole point of the film, really. At least it is in my opinion. Shows the stupidity and stuborness of the humans.
Questioning why a species may have evolved a specific thing is just silly. Why did you evolve a nose that juts out instead of just a space in your face, or why do we have a particular amount of teeth. They're aliens. You have no idea what conditions they evolved under.
And they weren't aiming for the battleships. They were just created a battery of plasma up in the air so they'd eventually hit *something*. Even if your computer systems can pick up where the plasma is coming from well in advance, if there's nowhere to move to, you're screwed (as was the case in the film, you can see the cruisers begin to dodge something that hasn't reached them by far, only to dodge into something else because there's nowhere to go).
The whole point of the film is to show human arrogancy and stupidity, and that whole facist state thing. I suppose it depends on the viewer.
I can't argue about the actors though. Jesus, i just wanted them all to die. Especially in that funeral scene where he tries to show that he's fighting to stop crying when it really just seems he's glued his mouth shut. And that bit where the plasma shoots through the screen. <b>They're in space, the cockpit just blew up and flames engulfed the whole room, and only ONE person in there has an injury, and that's just a small scratch</b> .That woman is invincible, i'm sure of it. She gets speared through the back and out very close to the heart (and on the other side of the chest) and then she gets up and runs about, even lifting her arms above her head and around the shoulders of her friend without so much as a grimace. That woman is just not human.
I'm going to go curl up in a ball in a corner and cry now.
Edit: about my only gripe with the first one is if you watched it carefully you can see when the bugs attacked ONE person, the bugs died faster... but in the scene with 10000000000000000s of stupidly used infantry platoons, the bugs took like 10 people just unloading into them to die.
The One thing i did like about the first ST movie is how they used the "computer interface" to show you around the universe... something I haven't seen when the movie came out.
and i agree with who ever dissed on eek, i dont think anyone really likes him, he is a bastard
and BTW... as much as the aliens died... i couldent have enjoyed the brains and **** kickings more... and also, the reoson st2 sucked is cause if you noticed... they closed off the storyline in ST1 when they took the brain bug... ST1 is a very old movie... and if you dont respect it, skrew off!
The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
dare i say it..?
<span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>nanites.</span>
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The actors in ST were straight out of a high school acting class, and looked like they just came off the set of Baywatch. My favorite was the blonde haired **** who walks around with his perfect moussed hair, and the girl pilot that looks like she was a whole of 16 years old.
Secondly, Die Hard actually had a plot that made a reasonable amount of sense. I'll ask you this: HOW DID THE BUGS - WHO CANNOT GO INTO SPACE - START THE ASTEROIDS MOVING TOWARDS EARTH? Even better: how the hell did they even know where earth WAS? And even BETTER< how did these asteroids NOT get detected by a much more sophisticated NEAT (Near Earth Asteroid Tracking). Really, these idiots have space flight, thermal trackers and magic guns that can blow up an entire city and weigh a whole of 2 pounds, and this huge line of asteroids flying through space just happened to not be seen by anyone?
Third, Die Hard made a reasonable amount of sense. You don't see Bruce Willis setting off a nuclear bomb and 'running' from the blast with that cliche little 'Oh a tripped and fell just two feet outside the blast radius' (which ironically was in ST). Instead, in ST you have such gems as: Let's send, what, 500,000+ infantry, armed with inferior weapons and armor, against an unknown enemy without any prior intelligence, charging in screaming like it's WORLD WAR 1. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE TANKS? I like how they used air support a whole of one or two times. Here we are hundreds of years in the PAST with a better grasp of tactics then they do in this movie.
Fourth, ST is just STUPID. The bugs have SOMEHOW evolved the ability to **** into space and shoot down battleships (how on earth they aim, or even know where the battleships are is a whole different story). Now really, that means that the plasma (or whatever magic high-tech word they made for it) has to travel HUNDREDS of kilometers. If you look in the movie, it's traveling quite slow. Then they show the battleships dodging it like they're in a fightercraft. Sorry, even computer systems NOW, much less 600 billion years in the future or whatever, would be able to track the plasma and predict where it's going. You wouldn't have any of this 'OH MY GOD PORT! GO PORT!' crap. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
dare i say it..?
<span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>nanites.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lies
<span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>bacteria</span>
Then just to add insult to injury they went and made a<a href='http://www.findcoolmovies.com/coversus/tremor3.jpg' target='_blank'>3rd</a> one....
<b>THEN</b> the sci-fi channel make a <a href='http://www.scifi.com/tremors/' target='_blank'>series</a> of it using the cheapest actors they could find.
What a way to overkill a good movie
Watch it for the movie for the Fight scenes? What fight scenes the endless crap of shooting there's nothing in the direction in which they're shooting? Thinking deep into a movie's the best part.
your a good man
I'm talking about the second movie, the first was good, second wasen't.
And did anyone know that there was a Duke Nukem 3D mod BASED off of SST1? Actually rather fun... unfortunetly i think the site no longer exists or is active. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->