What Do You Say..
<div class="IPBDescription">to get someone to quit smoking..?</div> this is a conversation with a friend of mine. she's been off smokes for about a month..
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11:49:42 zig: no..
11:49:43 zig: why?
11:49:45 zig: :3
11:49:58 ____: um.. i just...
11:50:08 ____: damn cant think of an excuse <_<
11:50:16 zig: what do you need to do lol
11:50:24 ____: my mom gave me cigs >.<
11:50:28 zig: .
11:50:31 zig: don't do it :\
11:50:35 zig: please? :\
11:50:35 ____: i do
11:50:44 zig: what do you mean you do D:
11:50:53 lysh: err i do it* lol
11:50:59 zig: nooo...
11:51:02 zig: cmon ____ :\
11:51:11 ____: yes <<
11:51:15 zig: D:
11:51:20 zig: ____ i really don't want you to smoke...
11:51:25 zig: why do you have to ;_;
11:51:36 ____: cause i got cigs <<
11:51:43 zig: give em back..
11:51:51 ____: noway D:
11:51:54 zig: and why don't you tell your mom you're trying to quit T-T
11:52:13 ____: err i think i forgot to tell her lol
11:52:19 zig: you're killing me T-T
11:52:37 ____: no iam just killing myself lol
11:52:48 zig: but it hurts me too..
11:53:04 zig: please just don't... for me? :*[
11:53:29 ____: i already actually quit it for... its not like i really want it <_<
11:53:37 ____: for u*
11:53:52 zig: what do you mean?
11:55:33 ____: ah nothing
11:55:35 ____: ill brb
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11:55:52 zig: god damnit..<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
she's relapsed like this a few times, each time either not telling me until later.. or saying that she's not addicted anymore, she just "has some" and "doesn't wanna waste them".
WTH am i supposed to do? i don't want her smoking.. she's important to me and i know she's strong enough.. *sigh*
help? :\
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11:49:42 zig: no..
11:49:43 zig: why?
11:49:45 zig: :3
11:49:58 ____: um.. i just...
11:50:08 ____: damn cant think of an excuse <_<
11:50:16 zig: what do you need to do lol
11:50:24 ____: my mom gave me cigs >.<
11:50:28 zig: .
11:50:31 zig: don't do it :\
11:50:35 zig: please? :\
11:50:35 ____: i do
11:50:44 zig: what do you mean you do D:
11:50:53 lysh: err i do it* lol
11:50:59 zig: nooo...
11:51:02 zig: cmon ____ :\
11:51:11 ____: yes <<
11:51:15 zig: D:
11:51:20 zig: ____ i really don't want you to smoke...
11:51:25 zig: why do you have to ;_;
11:51:36 ____: cause i got cigs <<
11:51:43 zig: give em back..
11:51:51 ____: noway D:
11:51:54 zig: and why don't you tell your mom you're trying to quit T-T
11:52:13 ____: err i think i forgot to tell her lol
11:52:19 zig: you're killing me T-T
11:52:37 ____: no iam just killing myself lol
11:52:48 zig: but it hurts me too..
11:53:04 zig: please just don't... for me? :*[
11:53:29 ____: i already actually quit it for... its not like i really want it <_<
11:53:37 ____: for u*
11:53:52 zig: what do you mean?
11:55:33 ____: ah nothing
11:55:35 ____: ill brb
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she's relapsed like this a few times, each time either not telling me until later.. or saying that she's not addicted anymore, she just "has some" and "doesn't wanna waste them".
WTH am i supposed to do? i don't want her smoking.. she's important to me and i know she's strong enough.. *sigh*
help? :\
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Atleast from my experience anyway. My brother used to smoke, and it was killing me. He's 8 years older than me, and it was the whole "Big brother" deal. I blocked his truck in with my truck one day, and when he told me to move, I told him "Not untill you quit." We ended up talking for a long time, and eventually he promised to quit "if it meant that much to me." So far he's 3 years without a cig.
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If they are going to be that stubborn about it, then there's not much you can do except repeatedly telling them that it's wrong etc.
She just told me that it meant a ton to her that I would stop and kept pushing it. I lied to her a couple times about it and she found out every time, and eventually I just felt awful about lying and got guilted into stopping. Been clean for like 4 weeks now and I'm really happy about it, heh.
Best of luck, though. I really hope you get her to quit.
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Works every time.
Whatever you do don't do what CWAG says. The best I've done (well once basically) is try to show that you really need her to stop, but don't force her. Saying "oh come on it's bad for you and you know it" won't help they'll only get frustrated and continue. Try to make her understand that you want her to be well, and that's without smoking. It's for her own good before everything, but don't show her that you want to deceive her. So far she still smokes so telling her something she doesn't want to hear is a bad approach. And tell her mom NOT TO GIVE CIGARETTES, I mean she's supposedly 17!
Seriously? All you can do is ask her to not do it. (Zig feel free to PM me and talk I had a situation but the object in question was a lot worse than cigs)
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from personal experience (cousin, and another friend) this doesn't work. As I said, they get frustrated and start "OMG don't start with this bull. I already get enough with my family" and start their rebel fight the system I smoke cuz it's cool process.
PS I didn't start smoking until about 4 months ago, I'm 19, and I now smoke everyday because I feel better when I have a cig then when I don't, people give me the typical it's bad for you rap. In the end its up to the person, I suggest just telling them you will support them if they ever decide to quit.
PPS don't push the issue too hard or your friend will start avoiding you like a certain someone that told me cancer statistics every time they saw me smoking : P
Call her an attention **** and be done with it.
If you do that she's better off without someone like you in her life if you ask me.
I've told alot of friends to stop smoking in the past. Maybe one did. Noone wants to be preached at. Just let her do what she wants.
My mom just went cold turkey. She just stopped smoking, but kept a pack of ciggies by her ( i don't even know why) but she never touched them. She didn't want to smoke any more, i guess. Plus all the money you can save (especially for heavy smokers).
My Grandad stopped for health reasons. He just stopped cold as well, no coming down slowly (he swore that doing that worked far better than the nicotine patches).
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My Dad just won't stop, no matter what. I don't know why even, he just says "i don't have the willpower" and lights up another one. I really wouldn't care what he's doing to himself to be honest, but i feel it affecting me now. I've been around very heavy smokers for all of my life (even at school) and because my grandad and uncle are mechanics, i spent a lot of time around chain smoking mechanics too, so i've probably got some form of cancer by now. If smoking only affected one person i'd be fine with that, but it affects everyone near you and if they don't smoke, it's really not pleasent to have someone elses smoke all over you.
Anyway, i'll get off my soapbox now. You could try showing her some pictures of infected lungs etc (some are seriously nasty), try pleading, try explaining (as i mentioned) how nasty it is for other people to be near a smoker etc. But in the end it really is up to her, and if she doesn't have the willpower to just say "I'm not smoking another one" ("i'll just have one more" doesn't work. ever.), she won't give up.
Bloody addictive nicotine. A pox on thee! A pox i say!
PS I didn't start smoking until about 4 months ago, I'm 19, and I now smoke everyday because I feel better when I have a cig then when I don't, people give me the typical it's bad for you rap. In the end its up to the person, I suggest just telling them you will support them if they ever decide to quit.
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You're forgetting the part about smelling like an ashtray, making everything you touch reek like a trash can, being a general inconvenience to everyone else because "I really need a smoke", etc.
I mean, smoking is just like vomiting all over someone.
I don't go around blowing smoke into peoples faces, or licking peoples faces after I finished a stogie. And if you are sensitive enough to smoke that it can bother you 10 feet away from me in open air then you need to buy yourself a bubble.
PS Second hand smoke is a hyped up anti smoking myth, and several science journals have published findings that reverse the facts presented that it causes cancer. The anti smoking zombies still use it in over 70% of their comercials though, I guess no one minds being lied to though.
Your best bet is send her to a doctor. My dad went to his doctor and he scared the crap out of him, it didnt last long until he was smoking again, but the scared effect is still there.
Show her this: <a href='http://www.squizzle.com/movies/no-smoke5.wmv' target='_blank'>http://www.squizzle.com/movies/no-smoke5.wmv</a>
doesn't work that well- these pictures (and others) must be printed cigarette cartons where I live;
-A few have been disturbed by them; but only a small amount of these are willing to actually quit as a result.
-Most simply don't care. "oh look a picture.... aah well, I'll just throw throw it on the ground when it's empty anyway"
-others seem to find it an excuse to buy more... a "collect the whole set" if you will.
I'm just glad that my city now bans smoking in public buildings... although it has created the "gauntlet of smokers" near almost all entrances to buildings; the trick is to start holding your breath about 30 feet from the doors (depending on the wind).
It's somewhat odd when traveling though... you honestly don't expect them to ask you if you want to be seated in the smoking or non-smoking.
btw, my friend is 22. and i don't call her an attention hoo'er, or get rid of her, or creep her out, or threaten to cut her off.. because i love her more than i can effectively express in words. she's the rain for my desert blossoms.. or something.
i've thought about it... and she's come pretty far. general consensus of professionals is that the more times you "quit", the easier it should be in the future to really "quit". she's quit... about 2-3 times. and i should be able to help her in person pretty soon...
but i talked to a friend of mine who happens to be a psychiatrist specializing in addict treatment. he says that when the recovery of the addict becomes more MY business than that of the addict, the battle is lost. that statement, coupled with the fact that i love her for everything including her faults, says to me i should maybe cool it a little. i know she's strong enough, and when the time is right, she'll quit it like it was nothing.
well, thanks, guys. you know i luv you all :3
What kind of drugs :/
<b>side note: guys, open up. it's not against forum law to talk about drugs in the context of our friends and loved ones who may be unfortunately addicted.</b>
my cousin, for example, is doing a damn good job shaking her meth habit.. clean for 6 or so months, i think it was?
the 4 months in jail probably helped with the cold turkey part...
1) weed
2) oxy-cotton
3) speed
i guesss thats all she told me....
Smoking (and even some drugs) just isn't that big a deal. Let them live their lives how they want to. Tell them how you feel by all means but don't order them about or cut them out of your lives if they don't say what you want to hear.
Be there if she want's to quit but don't judge her if she doesn't. If I decided to smoke and my friends talked to me how you seemed to have talked to her about it I'd hate it. Friends are supposed to accept you for who you are.