Can Only Download New Versions For Steam?!?!?!
boby_jinjin
Join Date: 2004-06-08 Member: 29179Members
Join Date: 2004-06-08 Member: 29179Members
whats this why can i only download steam crap? i do not like steam nor will i ever please help me out <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Steam has a real bad reputation... sure it's buggy, but what game isn't.
Update, or enjoy playing out-dated games for a long time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
now it more complicated. We want to play Ns but have to play something else
now it more complicated. We want to play Ns but have to play something else <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
use the no steam cs 1.6 one and just put your ns folder there and it works <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ns 3.0b 3 worked fine with won too.
no!
all that has changed though...i havent had steam crash in months personally.
now it more complicated. We want to play Ns but have to play something else <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Diddums. You mean you actually have to pay for a legal copy of a game that costs what? £10 nowadays? That's nothing.
Steam works fine nowadays for most if not all people I know.
I'm sure steam works relative well when you just want to play in ONE computer at your home. But problems start when you try to play ON LAN with your friends OR play in internet FROM a LAN. Why? Cos steam authenticates you this way: When you log in it checks and stores your IP adress. Then, when you want to play a game it verifies that your IP is still the same. If you only have 1 computer... no problem.
But what if you have several computers conected to internet though a router?? Then you have just ONE external IP adress for ALL the computers (the router one) and INSIDE the LAN every computer uses a private IP (that usually starts with 192.168.). The router translates external IP to internal IPs. This is called NAT (network adress translation). What happends with steam is that with this kind of authentication protocol only ONE computer in the LAN can play Half-Life at a time, even if every user has its owb steam account and legal CD-key).
Now bear in mind that this is not a bug. Its a ****ing BIG programming and desing mistake. And I fear (for what I have read in the steam forums), that this is part of the steam core, so it cant be fixed with a little patch.
If you still don't think that this is a terrible mistake, think about cybers... Some of them have no problem cos they use a different IP for each PC, but most of LANs in the world (at offices, universities, etc) use NAT. They have ruined a lot of cybers with this. And also they have ruined those big LAN Parties which take place all over the world with (2000+ computers). Valve is just (as we say in spain), throwing stones at his own roof.
Thats why I dont like steam at all. So plz dont tell me i have no reasons to hate it.
I myself am behind a linux software router using the standard firewall and NAT to forward all incoming ports to the clients.
I've been using Steam since it has been publically released in beta form (when cs 1.5 was being beta tested) and had no problems regarding my internet connection at all. Now since it has been officially released my brother is using it aswell. Of course our old Half-Life key couldn't be registered two times so he had to use my Blue-Shift Key.
But it works just fine ! I'm using my cd-key, he's using my other with his account and we're both able to play (even on the same server) over steam at the same time. Many friends of mine are using the same method to connect to the internet (linux router that is) and have no problem when they're hosting a Lan and we're sharing the same connection with up to 15 guys. Everyone was able to play over Steam.
It can't be the ip adress which steam is having problems with, 'cause linux also automatically uses one adress for the whole connected network to the internet.
So the only problem i can see is that your router really isn't capable of distinguishing between multiple clients and isn't able to send the data coming from the net to the clients requesting this data. Maybe you should check the config for your router or look if you find any post complaining about this problem at the manufacturer of your router.
Regards Paladin
[excuse the bad english, it's hot outside and i can't really concentrate on language right now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->]
I don't have any problems with my steam account, I just read all that in the official steam support forum cos I'm looking forward to have a LAN party and i wanted to see if I could do it with steam cos where we do the lan party (at a friend house at the countryside) there is no internet connection. But thx anyway <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just to ssjyoda: You've not understand what I've said. I said steams looks and checks your IP when LOGGING IN (not when you register your account), so of course you can use your account in a friends house. Also, I wasn't talking about having just one steam account. So I suggest looking into what your talking about before making such a statement. That, or learn to read properly.
And anyway I still think its sucks that you need to have internet conexion to play in LAN. And I dont like either the 'black-box' phylosophy (typo??) that steam has. But, hey! That's just an opinion.
My friend plays at my house all the time, no problems, exept the one time he unpluged the router we where on.
And each person who is playing needs his own steam account.
And your right the ip adress makes no differnce. I run steam behind 2 hardware firewalls and 2 software ones, and 2 routers. I think it more imporent how your router is set up then the fact there is one.
EDIT: try playing in offline mode, i think you can do a lan game with that.
<a href='http://steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21578' target='_blank'>http://steampowered.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=21578</a>
EDIT: To use steam offline (if I'm not mistaken) you need to log in and then go offline. So you still need internet conecction to play in LAN. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You need an internet connection once to log in and update all of the content on the games you wish to play. Use the "exit" feature rather than "exit and log out" then disconnect from the internet and play offline on LAN as long as your heart desires.
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