Oc¸s On Rt¸s

Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">or why does Flayra hate me so much ????</div> Ok guys i dont know if you have realized that it is now impossible to place an OC on an RT. I was one of the first who used this tactic (eventually the inventor <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->, i use it since 1.0x).
To place an OC on an RT you had to move under the big sack of the RT, jump up and place an OC. The OC was, if good placed, up to 3/4 cover by the RT. So it was very hard to kill the OC and the RT was covered. Heh i mean this was a way to protect the RT a little bit but now you must build 2-3 OC?s and some dc?s to cover an RT because 1 OC which is not covered by an RT dont survive for long. I?ve never seen any person who said that this placing is overpowered or bug using. So why was it taken out ?
Does Flayra hate me (well he dont know me and i dont know him) or is Flay on a mission to eliminate all Fun in NS ?

What do you think about it ?

P.S. sorry for my bad english <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    Jumping was nerfed so that you can't jump on top of RTs anymore. Thusly, you can't place something up there. Climb on top of the RT and try.
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  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    heh i am not dump. i also tryed to jump on an rt.
    But now it is impossible to place an OC directly near or on the RT and i am asking why.

    I want the freaking OC on RT placing back because i love it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+May 25 2004, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ May 25 2004, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...it was very hard to kill the OC... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exploit?
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  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+May 25 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ May 25 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+May 25 2004, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ May 25 2004, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...it was very hard to kill the OC... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exploit? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    indeed

    its ok, just put it around it
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  • ThiefThief Ownage Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19214Members, Constellation
    I always thought that was a mad lame tactic...
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    You're not allowed to put chambres on resource nozzles anymore because of too many problems with people blocking them, accidental or not. If you put a chambre too close to the node (or on it), you can't build the RT.
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  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-6john6doe6+May 25 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john6doe6 @ May 25 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+May 25 2004, 04:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ May 25 2004, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...it was very hard to kill the OC... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    exploit? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no its not... it's just plain rude...

    what happens:

    the Resource hit box takes alot of the damage, ir not all, so you have to destroy the RT before you can destroy the OC...

    or (i'm guessing) that the OC and rt hitboxes neighbor eachother so as you hit the RT hitbox, it flintches, exposing the OC hitbox, which you hit up until the RT HB comes back around...

    it's alot like the rt is "taking a bullet" for the OC. this detection is only 1-way... alien shots (oc spike) don't get stopped by alien hitboxes... so the OC can continue to fire.
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    You mean you still can't do this?

    I recall placing structures on nodes just the other day... or so I thought...
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    yeah, you can still place structures on a built RT
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  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+May 25 2004, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ May 25 2004, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah, you can still place structures on a built RT <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you just need someone to boost you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2004
    You can put them way up top of an RT, it just won't sink inside the node anymore and you usually can't get there by yourself. I think the original poster is talking about how you could jump into the node from the floor and drop an OC in there because there was no substance to it before 3.0. Now that the entire surface of the node registers damage, there's no way in hell we can allow OCs to be built inside them anymore(or aliens to hide in them, etc).
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  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+May 25 2004, 05:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ May 25 2004, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+May 25 2004, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ May 25 2004, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah, you can still place structures on a built RT <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you just need someone to boost you. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or build a DC or OC to get up to the rt.
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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    I wouldn't put an OC there. If the resource nozzle was close to your hive then the marines might just kill the RT and leave the OC so you can't build the res node.
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-PseudoKnight+May 25 2004, 09:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PseudoKnight @ May 25 2004, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldn't put an OC there. If the resource nozzle was close to your hive then the marines might just kill the RT and leave the OC so you can't build the res node. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I put OCs on RTs in double res spots <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    to be fair it also looked a tad stupid.. the OC kinda appeared at random places from the top sac of the res node - doubtful some thing that was intended for the game :s
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  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    edited May 2004
    Heh folks, everybody moan about how easy it is to kill an alien RT. Many people want Flayra to put something in like Umbra RT´s but this wasn´t nessecary because you already had a good possibility to defend the RT with 1 OC. And dont say its a lame tactic. When u say its lame then you must also say that elec marine RT´s are lame. An Elec RT from the rines is similar to this tactic because an elec RT could only be taken out at long range without taking damage just as well as an RT with an OC on it. So you can say this was an upgraded Alien RT. And it was also possible to eliminate the OC´s without shooting the RT first yoou only must aim high engough. But this tactic was very important because when an Marine attacks an upgraded RT you have more time to React because every marine tries first to kill the OC with his lmg which costs time and ammo.

    I hope you all got the point <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I mean this could have been an exploit but this exploit doesnt hurt anybody except the marine standing before the rt <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->. And i really never heard anybody who said to me that this is a lame tactic and as i said already i use this tactic since the beginning of NS. If anybody could give me a good reason why Flayra took it out i am already happy.
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  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+May 26 2004, 03:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ May 26 2004, 03:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When u say its lame then you must also say that elec marine RT´s are lame. An Elec RT from the rines is similar to this tactic because an elec RT could only be taken out at long range with taking damage just as well as an RT with an OC on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not really, after 4 mins, elec becomes useless

    fade>elec crap
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  • ZdrozZZdrozZ Join Date: 2003-01-11 Member: 12158Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    Stop whinning Raistlin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    (btw, what are you doing in this forum, you are at work! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
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  • Raistlin6Raistlin6 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4420Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Salvation+May 26 2004, 08:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salvation @ May 26 2004, 08:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Raistlin666+May 26 2004, 03:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Raistlin666 @ May 26 2004, 03:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When u say its lame then you must also say that elec marine RT´s are lame. An Elec RT from the rines is similar to this tactic because an elec RT could only be taken out at long range with taking damage just as well as an RT with an OC on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not really, after 4 mins, elec becomes useless

    fade>elec crap<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    After 4 mins the OC on the RT is also useless because marines got weapon upgrades and bigger weapons. So it is the same.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Uh, that tactic where you disguise an OC in the resource tower's "sack" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Putting an OC ontop of an RT is no longer lame since it doesn't sink in very far. The old way was like getting electrify for 10 res instead of 30.
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