Bad admins - the whole story?

LaserApaLaserApa Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1638Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Or are the marines stronger</div>I have been playing a lot of games on quite a few servers. Always  <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo-->  get their  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo--> 's up in no time like they've got resources commin out their arses, while poor gorges just sit and wait to be able to build their first recource tower.

Clonk clonk bang bang squeal squeal...

Can it really be so that every single admin got the bright idea to screw with the economics all at the same time, and then be ignorant enough not to restore them when they see what its doing to the game?

I find that a little hard to belive.

Also, Fade and Onos... not really as tough as they should be, no?

Onos 120 base damage with bite, Turret 1000 AP... that takes a while. Seriously...

All those stories about Onos: The great invincilbe #######.
Cant topple a Turret in one go... shame

I know i come off as quite a Git, just complainin and all but well.. i guess im just a bit frustrated... sorry..

anyways thanks for an otherwise great mod...
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  • Malice_101Malice_101 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3389Members
    No, It's not <b>all</b> crooked admins. The marines have a resource bug, giving them resources in the <b>thousands</b>.

    That is whats to blame for all the   <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'><!--endemo--> and the "clonk clonk bang bang squeal squeal" (rofl) effect.
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  • LaserApaLaserApa Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1638Members
    So far i havnt seen any developer or playtester comment on this tough. There being a resource bug that is.

    do the marines start with 99 RP's? in that case why do aliens start with none? or maby thats also the bug?

    Any bugs involving Turret armour being too high? or is that how it's supposed to be... really hard to make any sense of it... maby ill just finnish playing Hitman2 till they fix this deal..

    Again.. Thanks DevTeam.. I like this Mod, and i hope people can overlook theese innitial bugs and stay with NS. I know I will.
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  • Rico1Rico1 NS Oldtimer Join Date: 2002-05-24 Member: 664Members
    Let me clear up on the subject real quick, there is NOT a resource bug. The only thing thats happening is that you have admins changing the resource models without knowing the balance of the game, making it extremely unbalanced for one side or the other.

    Im not a PT or a dev, but i have been part of the NS community for a LONG time and i even play with the PTs and devs on some servers which have the CORRECT resource model, and let me say, the aliens OWNED US. Yes, we were marines, we had experienced people, we had even teams, and let me tell you, the most we ever  got in 3 games was 220 resources, even though we had like 5 res towers collecting stuff. Heck, in all that game i never saw a single HA be dropped...

    Oh and another thing, im not certain about the starting resources, but have you ever noticed mariens need to build their spawn portal in order to respawn? Aliens dont, the hive respawns them, therefore it would only be logical to give the marines a few extra RPs to balance it out.
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  • TwexTwex Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4999Members
    but why should dozens of otherwise intelligent server admins tinker with the resource model of a game they don't even know independently from each other? and why would they refuse to restore them to default after seeing the complaints?

    this "conspiracy theory" is incredibly hard to believe.

    it MUST be the fault of some strange, well hidden bug which didnt turn up in the playtest. don't blame the admins.
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  • Hot_SoupHot_Soup Join Date: 2002-06-29 Member: 847Members
    well to clear up the confusion could some nice chap post the server settings which should provide the correct balance , that way if you play on an y servers with dicky resource balance you could check the settings and / or inform the server admin.
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  • BlackDogBlackDog Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2995Members
    i agree with this though as far as the weird favorable-to-<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo--> bug goes. I have not been on a server where <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo--> spawn with less than 100 resources ever in the past 2 days. Every time i've spawned on <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skulk.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::skulk::'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::gorge::'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'><!--endemo--> , the highest i've seen has been 60...at most...lowest was 20. It's just quite unfair.   <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
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  • LazysamLazysam Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 101Members
    rico not to knock you, but as far as i know its a combo between the two, its both a resource bug, and the admins ####### thigs up
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