The biggest reason...

BigD · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">...the marines are kicking your ass.</div>This is NOT COUNTERSTRIKE OR ANY OTHER DM GAME. TEAMWORK TEAMWORK TEAMWORK. PATIENCE PATIENCE PATIENCE. CAMPING IS OKAY! I just played another game as alien. Me and two other guys just kicked 5 marines #####. Took an hour, but we had'em trapped. We owned the map. This is how we started.

<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/skulk.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::skulk::'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'>

Trouble at a Hive? Everyone rushed over and pwned them. Then we'd wait, cuz sure enough they'd try to attack the supposedly "weakened" turrets and stuff we had. We camped in a vent right behind where they'd show up to shoot our buildings. 3 upgraded skulks on 4 heavy/gl toting marines was a helluva a fight. We all attacked and killed the nearest one, then one fool paniced and naded himself along with me, the other two realized they couldn't be using grenades in such close quarters. Well, by the time they whipped their pistols or knives out they both a bite away from death. Two bites later, we had were tearing off toward their base to start an assault.
I harrassed them from one side while the other two evolved to one onos and one gorge. The gorge sat back and kept healing the onos while onos owned 'em.

Meanwhile, I was dodging in and out of vents. Hiding, wait, wait, attack and distract then camp again. I had a couple of routes and kept moving all the time so as to not get caught by grenades. When I was killed, I'd rush back and do it some more. Meanwhile the onos had cleared out an entire room of turrets. They had now caught on that I hadn't been their only problem the whole time and sent gl carrying goons to deal with the onos. So now I become the onos. The gorge had died but now came over to help me. You can see where I'm going with this!

When we did get killed off, we'd assault another section entirely. Coordinated and constant. Gorge would load any new found areas with off chambers and such. We slowly kept at it until we had their base pretty much surrounded. One lerk, 2 onos, it was an awesome ### whupping.

<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turret.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::sentry::'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'>

Well, anyway, as soon as people stop just coming on, "ooh this is harder and more complicated than counterstrike," they will do better. Anyway, ya, my $.02. (Well, maybe $.10)

Cyborgguineapig · November 2002

Nice

MrPing1000 · November 2002

There seems to be a few patterns imerging. Theres the alien rush at the start which actually succeeds quite often especially when the marines wonder off from the base before it has turrets.

Then theres the marines tactics of filling each hive location with 6+ sentry guns. Do that and the aliens cannot win

Unknown · November 2002

so how do you take down 15 turrets in a pile with only one hive and the rest highly defended?

Hardcode resources arghh! (yes I know you're doing it)

longshot007 · November 2002

this is not the reason marines win so much. he is a marine fagger who wants to feel good about himself. the truth is most admins are giving humans unlimited resources and super heavy armor. its realy ###.

Quietus · November 2002

Heavily turreted areas can be taken out quite easily with some good teamwork. I was playing ns_hera and the marines had filled the holo room with about 7 turrets. I evolved to an onos and had a friend evolve to lerk. He used umbra right in the middle of the turrets and I charged in taking them out. It took about 2 times of this to destroy them all.

Troy_Rage · November 2002

ITS THE MARRINES TURRETS I WAS A ONOS AND I RAN UP TO ONE AND IT KICKED MY ####### ###!!!!

Bill · November 2002

...If a single marine turret killed you as an Onos that's pretty bad. I ran into a room(in and out one time to heal) and killed 3 turrets as an Onos.

Battousaix · November 2002

Troy, sometimes you need to crouch to hit the damned turret.........
Also the problem its with resources, marines earn them too fast, so they can spam all the map with a million turrets in no time, leading to a extra looooooooooooong game (5 hours) or an alien loss.
I´ve played a 5 hour game, i saw how ppl joined and left the game while we were fighting trough hera, it was hard, but we finally won, and when i looked at the clock i noticed that the game lasted almost five hours.

rebo · November 2002

Isnt the problem that you need 3 hives to get an onos, but then you need to onos to clear out the camped turretted third hive room? So in effect you cant use an onos to do that...

SamW · November 2002

DAMN!!! 5 houar games... and i was getting ###### off at my 2+ houar game (which is still going on during this post)
situation 1 or 2 hives manny more mariens that aliens... (###### stupid newbs who only know how to play marines)
and a bad commander...........................................

Jasper · November 2002

If you have a good commander the aliens cant not win ever time you die you have to reupgrade your self the aliens take more team work but they have no commander. When I play commander we have half the map filled with turrets in 40 mins I drop hp and ammo hardly a guy dead on my team, lets say it was rare the teams where even as well.

lv 1-4 sucks lv 3s ok but 4lv is ###. 5 is better. Its no super weapon run into 3 turrets your dead dun into 7 turrets 4 guys and some other stuff and no way and any good commander will have 6-7 base with 7 turrets each a gate, ammo and.............. each alien sould be at least 2x more powerful then....... becouse they go off by them selfs more

Res1 · November 2002

I played marines once on a server that i know wouldn't mess with resource variables and it seemed like to me marines were earning resources much faster than they should. We were getting like 4 RP's every 5 seconds or so just from 1 resource tower. With 2 resource towers we were getting 8-9 RP's every 5 seconds or so. So the commander was able to plot down buildings like nothing :/

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