Ns Beta 4a And Hl On Lan

SerbyteSerbyte Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18428Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Will it work?</div> Let begin by saying that NS has provided us with hours of great LAN party time, but now i fear it may be over...

When we set up our LAN parties at our meetings we use HL without Steam. We use the latest version of Half life up until steam came out, now NS 2 was awsome and really fun... Here's my question : Will we be able to set up NS beta 4a on the old HL LAN system? or will it puke on us and we'll have to go play BF1942?

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  • ZocZoc &lt;?php echo &quot;Hi there&#33;&quot;; ?&gt; Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12517Members, Retired Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    You can use the Steam Offline..

    Just exit steam without logout.. It will work...
    When you open steam , you choose "work in offline mode" - it will be fine <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    btw, all players must have a valid steam account for them <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SerbyteSerbyte Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18428Members
    That's the thing, We won't be using steam because we only have like 3 copies of HL and twenty players! AHHHHH!! will we be not able to plau? I installed NSbeta 4a on the old WON system, and it seems to work, it's just that the pop up menu won't pop up, is there a bind i can do? eh?
  • redScareredScare Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28752Members
    Hehehe. Piracity is a crime <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Just copy your nsp folder from steam right into hl folder. It should work. But I have done this recently and I haven't check if the pop-up menu pops up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . In any case, you can use a script to bind the pop-up menu commands to some keys. I'll post the binds when I go back home. There are all "impulse xx" type. I found them in a german web after searching in google.
  • redScareredScare Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28752Members
    edited May 2004
    Ups. You're right. The pop-up menu don't work.


    Hotkey Nummer Funktion
    20 Upgrade Armour Level 1
    21 Upgrade Armour Level 2
    22 Upgrade Armour Level 3
    23 Upgrade Weapons Level 1
    24 Upgrade Weapons Level 2
    25 Upgrade Weapons Level 3
    26 Upgrade Turret Factory
    28 Research Jetpacks
    29 Research Heavy Armour
    30 Select Distress Beacon
    33 Research Motion Tracking
    38 Select Heavy Armor
    39 Select Jetpack
    40 Select Infantry Portal
    41 Select Resource Tower
    43 Select Turret Factory
    45 Select Arms Lab
    46 Select Prototype Lab
    48 Select Armory
    51 Select Observatory
    53 Select Scanner
    55 Select Phase Gate
    56 Select Turret
    57 Select Siege Cannon
    58 Select Command Console
    59 Select Health
    60 Select Ammo
    61 Select Mines
    62 Select Welder
    64 Select Shotgun
    65 Select Heavy Machine Gun
    66 Select Grenade Launcher
    69 Recycle Selected Building
    86 Enter Basic Build Menu
    87 Enter Advanced Build Menu
    88 Enter Equip Menu

    Impulse Marine Action Alien Action
    1 Next Weapon -
    3 Drop Weapon -
    5 Ready Room Ready Room
    7 Follow Me Chuckle
    8 Covering Need Healing
    9 Taunt Need Backup
    10 Need Health Incoming
    11 Need Ammo Attack
    12 In Position I'm Building Here
    13 Enemy Here -
    14 Move Out -
    15 All Clear -
    80 Need Order -
    81 Acknowledge -

    Aliens Only
    90 Build Resource Tower
    91 Build Offence Chamber
    92 Build Defence Chamber
    93 Build Sensory Chamber
    94 Build Movement Tower
    95 Build Hive
    101 Upgrade: Carapace
    102 Upgrade: Regeneration
    103 Upgrade: Redemption
    107 Upgrade: Celerity
    108 Upgrade: Adrenaline
    109 Upgrade: Silence
    110 Upgrade: Cloak
    111 Upgrade: Scent of Fear
    112 Upgrade: Enhanced Sight
    113 Evolve: Skulk
    114 Evolve: Gorge
    115 Evolve: Lerk
    116 Evolve: Fade
    117 Evolve: Onos

    You can bind them as usual:
    bind k "impulse 91" (example)

    But I think you'll need a good script for the alien team in case you want to play beta3 without the pop-up menu without needing a key for each building/upgrade. Maybe I'll make one ifI have enough time (exams are near).
  • ZocZoc &lt;?php echo &quot;Hi there&#33;&quot;; ?&gt; Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12517Members, Retired Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    Have your guys tryied with the half-lif that comes with CS 1.6 non-Steam (looks like a hacked version of HL)

    I think it should work pretty fine, because all the things looks like Steam... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Why don't you give a try? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jared101Jared101 Join Date: 2004-02-22 Member: 26804Members
    steam=communism slowly growing
  • redScareredScare Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28752Members
    steam=capitalism growing.

    BTW, the pop-up menu DOES work. But u need to have players in both teams or sv_cheats enabled.

    I have even found a server running 4a over WON <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZocZoc &lt;?php echo &quot;Hi there&#33;&quot;; ?&gt; Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12517Members, Retired Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    Players in both teams is needed even for steam <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    How to make it work on WON ?

    Just copy the NSP folder to HL Folder ?
    or need something else?
  • redScareredScare Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28752Members
    Yes, just copy the nsp folder into half life folder like any other mod. This way you can have both NS2.0 and NSbeta4 installled and working.

    Oh, I've notice that metamod does not work with beta4 installed this way. The game crahes when you try to create a server... what a pity. Anyway, better this than not be able to play in LAN without internet conecction.
  • SerbyteSerbyte Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18428Members
    Thanks for the help and advice guys! I really appreciate it.
  • redScareredScare Join Date: 2004-05-18 Member: 28752Members
    Oh, I've managed to make metamod work with beta4 installed this way.
    Refer to thread

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72624' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...showtopic=72624</a>

    to configure metamod to work by manually selecting the ns.dll path.

    Enjoy <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZocZoc &lt;?php echo &quot;Hi there&#33;&quot;; ?&gt; Join Date: 2003-01-20 Member: 12517Members, Retired Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    Goodjob RedScare <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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