<!--QuoteBegin-rOoKe+May 21 2004, 05:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rOoKe @ May 21 2004, 05:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> uh..... what are you talking about mage?
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> After some googling (I was unsure of this), BM is right. The 'D' in 'D-Day' stands for nothing but day.
Basically, D-Day is a codename for '<i>the</i> day'. The reasoning behind this is that it's more secure not to give dates. A 'D-Day' would be the codename given to the date of any major assault or millitary operation. Because of the sheer magnitude of the D-Day landings et al, the name has been tagged onto June 6th since then.
And in case it needs to be explained WHY D-Day is a big deal, it was the launch of a second front by the Allies in WW2, to take some pressuer off the Russian front and to divide up Hitler's forces a bit. Also moral boost and such.
And version 91, you're thinking of V-Day, when we declared victory against Germany. Later, VE-Day (Victory Eastern) was when we declared victory over Japan.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+May 21 2004, 01:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 21 2004, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And in case it needs to be explained WHY D-Day is a big deal, it was the launch of a second front by the Allies in WW2, to take some pressuer off the Russian front and to divide up Hitler's forces a bit. Also moral boost and such.
And version 91, you're thinking of V-Day, when we declared victory against Germany. Later, VE-Day (Victory Eastern) was when we declared victory over Japan. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> VE-Day is Victory in Europe Day. VJ-Day is Victory in Japan Day.
I coulda sworn it was just V for Germany and VE for Japan... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Trust the magic of google.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can look it up yourself.
I coulda sworn it was just V for Germany and VE for Japan... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I learned VE and VJ in high school, so I'll have to go with those.
Victory over Europe and Victory over Japan...Makes me think it should really be VG day <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
For more interesting acronyms and such: AD = Anno Domine = The year of our lord (in latin) PM = Post Meridiem = after the meridian (arc of longitude marking the sun's highest point in the sky) AM = Ante Meridiem = before the meridian
The d-day, h-hour, m-minute thing is in effect for any military (and I think NASA) based operation June 6th, 1944 is well known and usually the first association with the term. 'Operation Overlord' would be a more detailed term for the famous WW2 landing, but people like to be lazy and use the shortest term around.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+May 21 2004, 01:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ May 21 2004, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When you think about it, D-Day doesn't really make sense. Its like T-Time. Day-Day? Time-Time?
Now watch me steer this towards a semi-related topic...
What did "SS" (you know, Hitler's elite bodyguards) stand for? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If memory serves, SS stands for Schutzstaffel...which I think would be 'protection squad' if I'm not being overly lazy.
<!--QuoteBegin-rOoKe+May 21 2004, 10:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rOoKe @ May 21 2004, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> uh..... what are you talking about mage?
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> correction: Omaha, Utah, Gold, Juno, and Sword.
[edit - U.S. had Omaha and Utah, England had Gold and Sword and Canada had Juno.]
[edit 2 - SS is the death squad. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]
there WAS more then Omaha, you know. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-rOoKe+May 21 2004, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rOoKe @ May 21 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> uh..... what are you talking about mage?
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ALMOST had it. It's the Beache>>>S<<< of normandy.
There's Juno, Omaha, Utah, Sword, and Gold.
Two of these invasions were consider US beaches beacuse landings there were done primarily with US troops. These were Omaha and Utah. The remaining three were considered British and Canadian beaches although there may have also been some US troops there as well. (unsure) The most interesting thing to note is that Omaha beach was the site of far, far more casualties than any other beach. German gun positions remained largely in place at Omaha while gun positions at other beaches were significantly thinned out by pre-invasion bombing done in the hours before the landings. German gunners at Omaha kept US troops pinned down most of the day and inflicted very heavy casulaties. Late in the day German positions were finally outflanked and the narrow beachheads that troops clung to all day were finally expanded.
IT STANDS FOR <b><u><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>DELIVERATION DAY</span></span></u></b>
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I cannot believe any of you knew what D-Day stood for?!?! The biggest waterborn assault in the history of mankind and you still did not know what "D"-Day stood for
dam yanks <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/edit+rant]
Heh, I'm pretty sure Google has established that it means 'day'. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
SS is indeed Schutzstaffel and it does mean protection squad. The original SS was Hitlers personal bodyguards. It was later expanded (quite a lot, I might add) and was used widely in combat. This branch was referred to as Waffen-SS.
I believe there were also a couple of other branches, but I don't remember them at the moment. I'm not sure if the SA (Sturmarbeiteilung) was included.
<!--QuoteBegin-Liku+May 21 2004, 06:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ May 21 2004, 06:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dooms-Day if I remember correctly. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> what she or he said
It's not defeat day that was in may 1945 if i remember...
It's Doom Day the day alied forces attacked germeny for real <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
omg every channel about D-Day in the UK names D-Day as Deliveration Day, its not dooms day and its not "the day" omg go and ask and war vet what D-Day is he'll tell you Deliveration Day
Deliveration = when the allies were DEVLIVERD onto the beacheads of normandy! TRUST IM BIG ON WW2
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe there were also a couple of other branches, but I don't remember them at the moment. I'm not sure if the SA (Sturmarbeiteilung) was included.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The SS and SA were seperate during Hitler's rise to power. The SS were, as you said, elite bodyguards whilst the SA were essentially thugs and criminals that were used to break up rival political rallies and take part in political terror. In 1934 Hitler had the leadership of the SA arrested and imprisoned and melded the SA into the army. Most historians believe he did this because he was worried that the SA (which had grow to huge proportions by '34) would be a threat to his power. Basically paranoia.
Also whilst D-Day was helpful, the Russians really didn't need the help. Stalin had been screaming for the Allies to start a second front in Europe ever since 1942, but after Stalingrad (and one could argue before then as well) Russia wasn't going to lose. The D-Day landings did significantly shorten the war in Europe and gave control of France and part of Germany to the allies, so it did achieve quite a bit. I say all this because I've run into people who claim that D-Day was the reason Germany was defeated.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Most historians believe he did this because he was worried that the SA (which had grow to huge proportions by '34) would be a threat to his power. Basically paranoia.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, it might also have had to do with Hitler promising Röhm (the SAs leader) surpreme command over the army at one point to secure his loyalty, which then became a big problem when the generals of the Wehrmacht, which was vastly better equipped and thus a better base of power, made it more or less clear that they would never take orders from Röhm, which in turn had a lot to do with him being constantly accused of being homosexual. So, to Hitler, getting rid of Röhm did not only mean eliminating a possible rival, but also securing the loyalty of the armys leaders.
<!--QuoteBegin-Spetsnaz+May 21 2004, 10:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spetsnaz @ May 21 2004, 10:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg every channel about D-Day in the UK names D-Day as Deliveration Day, its not dooms day and its not "the day" omg go and ask and war vet what D-Day is he'll tell you Deliveration Day
Deliveration = when the allies were DEVLIVERD onto the beacheads of normandy! TRUST IM BIG ON WW2 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Eeeheehee, nice try. Every World War 2 book I've ever read says the D is just for day. You may be big on WWII, but you're also confused.
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as in THE day we [do something]
h-hour is h-hour because d and day both have 'd's
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat....
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d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
After some googling (I was unsure of this), BM is right. The 'D' in 'D-Day' stands for nothing but day.
Basically, D-Day is a codename for '<i>the</i> day'. The reasoning behind this is that it's more secure not to give dates. A 'D-Day' would be the codename given to the date of any major assault or millitary operation. Because of the sheer magnitude of the D-Day landings et al, the name has been tagged onto June 6th since then.
D-Day means "the day" of the operation.
the phrase d-day can be applied to ANY operation, and minus-one or plus-one suffixes mean "the day before the operation" etc.
edit: esuna = right
And version 91, you're thinking of V-Day, when we declared victory against Germany. Later, VE-Day (Victory Eastern) was when we declared victory over Japan.
And version 91, you're thinking of V-Day, when we declared victory against Germany. Later, VE-Day (Victory Eastern) was when we declared victory over Japan. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
VE-Day is Victory in Europe Day.
VJ-Day is Victory in Japan Day.
Trust the magic of google.
You sure?
I coulda sworn it was just V for Germany and VE for Japan...
You sure?
I coulda sworn it was just V for Germany and VE for Japan... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Trust the magic of google.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can look it up yourself.
You sure?
I coulda sworn it was just V for Germany and VE for Japan... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I learned VE and VJ in high school, so I'll have to go with those.
Victory over Europe and Victory over Japan...Makes me think it should really be VG day <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
For more interesting acronyms and such:
AD = Anno Domine = The year of our lord (in latin)
PM = Post Meridiem = after the meridian (arc of longitude marking the sun's highest point in the sky)
AM = Ante Meridiem = before the meridian
The d-day, h-hour, m-minute thing is in effect for any military (and I think NASA) based operation June 6th, 1944 is well known and usually the first association with the term. 'Operation Overlord' would be a more detailed term for the famous WW2 landing, but people like to be lazy and use the shortest term around.
Now watch me steer this towards a semi-related topic...
What did "SS" (you know, Hitler's elite bodyguards) stand for?
Now watch me steer this towards a semi-related topic...
What did "SS" (you know, Hitler's elite bodyguards) stand for? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If memory serves, SS stands for Schutzstaffel...which I think would be 'protection squad' if I'm not being overly lazy.
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
correction: Omaha, Utah, Gold, Juno, and Sword.
[edit - U.S. had Omaha and Utah, England had Gold and Sword and Canada had Juno.]
[edit 2 - SS is the death squad. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> ]
there WAS more then Omaha, you know. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Likewise the "S" in Harry S. Truman doesn't stand for anything either.
d-day as in the d-day on june 6th, 1944, the landing on omaha beach during world war 2
edit: i dont think its defeat.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ALMOST had it. It's the Beache>>>S<<< of normandy.
There's Juno, Omaha, Utah, Sword, and Gold.
Two of these invasions were consider US beaches beacuse landings there were done primarily with US troops. These were Omaha and Utah. The remaining three were considered British and Canadian beaches although there may have also been some US troops there as well. (unsure) The most interesting thing to note is that Omaha beach was the site of far, far more casualties than any other beach. German gun positions remained largely in place at Omaha while gun positions at other beaches were significantly thinned out by pre-invasion bombing done in the hours before the landings. German gunners at Omaha kept US troops pinned down most of the day and inflicted very heavy casulaties. Late in the day German positions were finally outflanked and the narrow beachheads that troops clung to all day were finally expanded.
noobs
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I cannot believe any of you knew what D-Day stood for?!?! The biggest waterborn assault in the history of mankind and you still did not know what "D"-Day stood for
dam yanks <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Source?
I believe there were also a couple of other branches, but I don't remember them at the moment. I'm not sure if the SA (Sturmarbeiteilung) was included.
what she or he said
It's not defeat day that was in may 1945 if i remember...
It's Doom Day the day alied forces attacked germeny for real <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Deliveration = when the allies were DEVLIVERD onto the beacheads of normandy! TRUST IM BIG ON WW2
The SS and SA were seperate during Hitler's rise to power. The SS were, as you said, elite bodyguards whilst the SA were essentially thugs and criminals that were used to break up rival political rallies and take part in political terror. In 1934 Hitler had the leadership of the SA arrested and imprisoned and melded the SA into the army. Most historians believe he did this because he was worried that the SA (which had grow to huge proportions by '34) would be a threat to his power. Basically paranoia.
Also whilst D-Day was helpful, the Russians really didn't need the help. Stalin had been screaming for the Allies to start a second front in Europe ever since 1942, but after Stalingrad (and one could argue before then as well) Russia wasn't going to lose. The D-Day landings did significantly shorten the war in Europe and gave control of France and part of Germany to the allies, so it did achieve quite a bit. I say all this because I've run into people who claim that D-Day was the reason Germany was defeated.
Well, it might also have had to do with Hitler promising Röhm (the SAs leader) surpreme command over the army at one point to secure his loyalty, which then became a big problem when the generals of the Wehrmacht, which was vastly better equipped and thus a better base of power, made it more or less clear that they would never take orders from Röhm, which in turn had a lot to do with him being constantly accused of being homosexual.
So, to Hitler, getting rid of Röhm did not only mean eliminating a possible rival, but also securing the loyalty of the armys leaders.
Deliveration = when the allies were DEVLIVERD onto the beacheads of normandy! TRUST IM BIG ON WW2 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Eeeheehee, nice try. Every World War 2 book I've ever read says the D is just for day. You may be big on WWII, but you're also confused.