Gloom for half-life

GloomerGrimGloomerGrim Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4729Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Hmmm.. bout time it was done</div>Is it just me, or is NS a lot like gloom?
how many others here have played gloom and noticed the similarities?

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  • SwitenSwiten Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4707Members
    ... Grim.... I posted that already <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    ...

    Yes, NS is simular to Gloom ..

    as it is to;

    Starcraft
    AvP
    AvP2
    Alien series
    Anything Sci-Fi related
  • SwitenSwiten Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4707Members
    As I recall (pardon my memory) AvP and Alien did not have turret/spawns etc.
  • GloomerGrimGloomerGrim Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4729Members
    ..... i meant in a closer way than that.

    the gameplay itself is very similar to gloom.
    the only big difference ive seen is the "commander mode"
  • KtKKtK Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4741Members
    you have to forgive these two.
    they're just the <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo--> local gloom idiots that don't know what they're talking about.
  • SwitenSwiten Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4707Members
    KtK is generally evil. But that is off-topic. I'm just wondering if anyone from NS used gloom as a reference for the mod.
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Do a search for Gloom.

    Flayra himself has said that he liked that mod a lot, and NS does have some influence from it.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> AvP and Alien did not have turret/spawns etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually, he means the Alien film series, and there were turrets in it.  Sentry turrets.  That was 1986, so it predates Gloom by at least a decade.  Sorry, but you can't claim (by proxy) ownership of that concept.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->the only big difference ive seen is the "commander mode"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is a fairly large difference.  Also, were there hives in Gloom?  That's where the aliens get most of their abilities, and creation/protection of hives is what drives their game.

    Well, then the non-class based marines, the resource model, the . . ah, screw it.  I give up.  Both games have aliens and humans, so they're the same.  

    Plus, I like people who are intelligent enough to accuse you of blatantly ripping something off, but apparently aren't bright enough to figure out the really difficult 'search' function that will let you know if another Einstein out there has already brought the point up.



    <!--EDIT|BathroomMonkey|Nov. 01 2002,22:36-->
  • SwitenSwiten Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4707Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BathroomMonkey+Nov. 01 2002,22:33--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (BathroomMonkey @ Nov. 01 2002,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Do a search for Gloom.

    Flayra himself has said that he liked that mod a lot, and NS does have some influence from it.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin--> AvP and Alien did not have turret/spawns etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually, he means the Alien film series, and there were turrets in it.  Sentry turrets.  That was 1986, so it predates Gloom by at least a decade.  Sorry, but you can't claim (by proxy) ownership of that concept.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->the only big difference ive seen is the "commander mode"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is a fairly large difference.  Also, were there hives in Gloom?  That's where the aliens get most of their abilities, and creation/protection of hives is what drives their game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "This is a fairly large difference.  Also, were there hives in Gloom?  That's where the aliens get most of their abilities, and creation/protection of hives is what drives their game"

    Well Gloom could have "hives"... teams were divided by bases, So The Humans could have a "base" and aliens could have "Hive". They both must create defence and protect to ensure that they will survive.
  • GloomerGrimGloomerGrim Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4729Members
    aha so flayara did use gloom as a reference, the similarity between ns and gloom was just to uncanny

    and john milner aka keitek aka ktk be quiet!
  • SwitenSwiten Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4707Members
    Also. Is there an IRC server or some other way of connecting in order to make this discussion faster?
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GloomerGrim+Nov. 01 2002,22:39--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (GloomerGrim @ Nov. 01 2002,22:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->aha so flayara did use gloom as a reference, the similarity between ns and gloom was just to uncanny

    and john milner aka keitek aka ktk be quiet!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Flayra said any similarities between Gloom and Natural-Selection are purely coincidental.
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->aha so flayara did use gloom as a reference<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, and he's said as much, <b>many</b> times.  He also encourages people to <b>play</b> Gloom.  NS has led to many forum members downloading and playing Gloom.  

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also. Is there an IRC server or some other way of connecting in order to make this discussion faster?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    #natural-selection . . . on any gamesnet (I could be wrong) server.

    I don't quite see the point of any discussion . . . Gloom has been mentioned as a reference many, many times.  If you then proceed to say that this game is precisely a Gloom rip-off, then you haven't played it.  The differences are quite large.  And if you <i>still</i> have to call it a Gloom rip off, then we'll have to assemble a list of all the games that Gloom 'ripped off'.  

    Just relax a bit, ok?
  • BillBill Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1108Members
    Flayra did say that though <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo-->
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    I played NS, I played Gloom, how is NS the exact same?

    <b><span style='color:orange'>***LOCKED***</span></b>
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