Gamma reset

LuftWaffleLuftWaffle Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4057Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Grr.</div>Alright, I understand the reason for having NS reset my gamma before I play. The game should be dark and scary. Unfortunately, your definition of perfect gamma isn't even ATTAINABLE by my monitor, without changing my brightness settings in Windows.

I always knew setting my brightness up really high isn't fair, and I've always had mine set to a reasonable setting. Now, I can't see anything at all. You know the default HL menu, with the graphics behind the bright yellow text? I just see pure black back there when I don't have my settings changed.

I tried renaming the program that changes my gamma to something else, that worked. Finally I could see what the hell I was doing in the game. Too bad that upon exit, NS decides to change it back to default AGAIN. You're probably wondering why this matters if my gamma is set back to default when I quit a game. The problem is this: Now, every time I start a game, even if it's NOT NS, my gamma settings get changed NO MATTER WHAT. Basically this means that after playing NS even once, I need to reboot my entire computer to play any game.

If you're still wondering how dark my monitor is, even on the HIGHEST SETTINGS (100 contrast, 100 brightness): in the gamma setup tool, I can't even see the 4 below the one box (I can't distinguish any of the boxes from the background either), and I couldn't even see the CRATES the alien is supposedly hiding behind, let alone the alien ITSELF, let alone its eyes.

My only option right now to avoid this is to get a new monitor.

So far this is my only complaint (other than.... well you know). I've even spoken with Charlie in email a few times, he's a great guy (helped me figure out mouse-to-ray calculations for the little RTS mod I made).

For the next release, PLEASE disable brightness resetting, ESPECIALLY on closing the game.

Thanks,
-LuftWaffle

Comments

  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    that's odd cause i  haven't touched the reset gamma and nothing is changed.
  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Ok, so... is your graphics card normally set to a very HIGH gamma setting? Because NS is supposed to be INCREASING your gamma, not decreasing it.
  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    Something must be screwy, the way the gamma works is it UPS the gamma, it's supposed to change it back when you quit. The gamma reset program is for if it fails to do this or it crashes and is supposed to put your gamma back to norm.
  • LuftWaffleLuftWaffle Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4057Members
    Yeah, I normally have to set my brightness pretty high before I play games. I change it in the nView settings in the advanced display properties in windows. On the scale from left to right, mine is set to about 75%. On this setting everything is perfect, if I do the gamma calibration tool everything is nearly perfect. It's just that the game resets my brightness all the time on its own and this messes up everything that I change.

    Maybe the game should add brightness to what's already set, not add it to the baseline setting.
  • TwystaTwysta Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4199Members
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo--> I didnt even touch the gamma settings, and whenever i join a game like 4 minutes into the game everything gets REALLY REALLY bright and when i exit HL completely my whole desktop gamma is on HIGH WTF is this? I dont like games to change my windows settings plz help. release a patch or tell me what to delete/change so i can have NS stop messing with my gamma settings.
  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    It doesn't change your windows settings.  It's overbrightnening, not a change in your gamma settings (although going to "color correction" in your settings will reset it).

    In any case, yours is the first case I've heard of this happening 4 minutes into a game.  The overbrightening normally takes effect at the moment the map loads.

    What are your spec's (gfx card, etc.)?



    <!--EDIT|Relic25|Nov. 01 2002,16:44-->
  • TwystaTwysta Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4199Members
    my specs exceed the recommanded requirments...

    specs:
    1500Mhz P4
    Win98
    ATI 128 AGP Pro (32MB)
    30GB HD
    256MB RAM

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&::onos::--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::onos::'><!--endemo-->

    Your right it doesnt change the settings but if i dont correct it, then it says like that.
  • The_Confidence-ManThe_Confidence-Man Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2273Members
    I have the same problem, it makes everything far too bright (when the map loads that is).


    Can't there just be a console command to disable the gamma adjusting?
  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    It is NOT gamma adj....  oh hell, I give up.

    What drivers are you guys who are having problems using?

    Also, those of you using nvidia cards should give <a href="http://www.natural-selection.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=18;t=7922" target="_blank">this</a> a try.



    <!--EDIT|Relic25|Nov. 01 2002,17:01-->
  • TwystaTwysta Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4199Members
    Yeah why couldnt they just leave gamma alone and let the USER choose the way he/she wants the gamma to be like every other (good) mod?
  • Relic25Relic25 Pixel Punk Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 39Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    /me beats his head against the wall.  

    Not...gamma...not...gamma...not...gamma....

    And don't think I missed that little parenthetical dig Twysta.  If that's how you are going to be, I'd sooner not have people making remarks like that around.  We're trying to <i>help</i> people here and give them something they might enjoy playing.

    There is nothing at all in NS preventing anyone from monkeying with their own gamma to hell and back if they want.  The brightness is from overbrightening, not gamma.  If people are having problems, it is from compatibility issues that haven't become apparent until now.  There has already been one solution posted for people having problems who are using nvidia cards.



    <!--EDIT|Relic25|Nov. 01 2002,17:08-->
  • TwystaTwysta Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4199Members
    I wasnt implying that this mod isnt good. It is the best mod ive ever played except for a few minor things that can be easily fixed. and dont get mad at me, btw Ive told so many ppl to dl the game you should be thanking me.
    I just think you shouldnt have made the thing that changes gamma without permission or at least have an option to turn off auto gamme brightening.
    im still playing and i really like the mod even if i have to play 300-800 ping with everything really bright  <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    edit: over-brightening gamma whatever its the same thing to me. what it all comes down to is: the game is too bright and it wont let me make it less bright unless i change my whole desktop to being very dark which im not going to do.
  • UdtreUdtre Join Date: 2010-10-29 Member: 74657Members
    8 years past...
    I have windows vista
    I press cntrl + alt + del
    I press ESC
    Gamma resets back
    Take care.
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