What i miss for the commander

WarfareWarfare Join Date: 2002-10-29 Member: 1697Members
<div class="IPBDescription">It's so chaotic in there</div>As a commander it was tense. Much more tense than as playing a marine. You had to provide ammo and medpacks to your marines who were scattered all over the map. That's more of an organization issue.

But in addition to that, you hear "Marine is under attack. Sentry gun is firing. Marine lost. Base is under attack". But where the heck where?!
I really REALLY miss some recognitions on the minimap to where the events are happening.  Like in most RTS', you see a circle gathering at where the base is attacked, and where units are killed.

I've probably missed it in the manual, but I didn't see any units on minimap as a marine.

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  • WarfareWarfare Join Date: 2002-10-29 Member: 1697Members
    All right, I found out how.
    I wa listening to the hud sounds and I heard the marine computer say "Press your jumpkey to go to the alert."

    Beside the point, but I also found somethung humorous:

    "This is <b>my</b> hive. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."

    Haven't played an alien so I don't know if that's usual or not.
  • The_New_AkumaThe_New_Akuma Join Date: 2002-05-30 Member: 699Members
    hmmm, I like commander mode, i gave it afew trys, but then i let Ratty (he was great) play as commader lol, i the commader mode just needs afew things to make it perfect

    1. zoom in and out
    2. a clearer mini map showing each marine
    3. let u move to each marine in order
    4. when someone needs something it should come up in a "needs" box somewhere, saying Player needs X item, this will be handy when all ur marines are yelling for things, u can use it too move to each one in turn and give them what they need

    dont get me wrong, ns still rules

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  • JohanzJohanz Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1789Members
    I think my minimap is broke, it white, and only white! is it supposed to be so?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hmm, as comander I have been getting the bug that I scroll and then don't stops, so if I hit my fowards key my view will keep moving fowards till I sorta back pedele (it is as if I have momentum)

    personaly I can't play as commie yet, I think I am going to have bind alot of keys before I can actualy play as him.

    As a side note for those who have not yet played as aliens, things are even more anoying you constantly get "XXX is under attack" and you also SEE all of these things, hive sight can get rhather screwy, lol
  • JohanzJohanz Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1789Members
    Well, is yer minimaps totaly white? I cant see a darn thing! Please tell me!!
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    A key wich selects all marines would be cool..... but commander mode rocks....

    (why do marines always win?)
  • JohanzJohanz Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1789Members
    Argh-y! No one listens to me! arggh,.... Guahhh... uahhh.. *dies*
  • OG17OG17 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2024Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Nov. 01 2002,08:00--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Thansal @ Nov. 01 2002,08:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->hmm, as comander I have been getting the bug that I scroll and then don't stops, so if I hit my fowards key my view will keep moving fowards till I sorta back pedele (it is as if I have momentum)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try holding your walk key when you move your view around.  It's like that's fine control and "running" is gross.
  • CrisisCrisis Join Date: 2002-05-24 Member: 665Members
    When using the Mini Map to go stirgh to an area, say bottom left, it rarly fgoes there, normally to the center, or the top or something weird.

    NS is good, but only if the commander is good. I was on a server all day, and I was the commander all the way through cause I was the only person good enough!

    I think when people ask for ammo/health it should be automatic, or the commander just has to confim that they can have it or something.

    Or/And when someone needs back-up, or something perhaps on the minimap that marine should flash or something, cause I am constantly hearing I need ammo, but it never says who he is, or where he is.

    Lastly, just making some features of the commander automated would make his life 1000x easier. Like say weapons could be administered automatically, unless the commander chooses other wise.

    Fun huh?
  • ReignReign Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1652Members
    Playing in the commander mode is surprisingly simple.  The only things you need to do are to make sure you just get some decent buildings going and that you drop off weapons and armor at the spawn.  Otherwise, you just jump around using that one key and drop ammo and medpacks.  Cool, nifty.

    EDIT:  ALSO!  YOU MUST READ THE MANUAL.  Any commander who hasn't read the manual is basically a bad one.  Since you won't know what each building does and all...

    Also, always always always use the VOICECOM!!!  If your a commander, you GOTTA let your team know what's going down.  And since typing can be missed by others and also takes too much time...well.
  • ShadoweShadowe Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1732Members
    no. voice com is for ######### who cant type.

    i played a game with 2 peaple on alien team using voice com, everytime one of them spoke the pings shot up to ungodly levels.

    and the peaple using them wouldnt listen to ANYTHING we typed.

    and they kept blabbering useless gibberish like "this is the shiznat" and other useless spam.

    then they asked absolutely STUPID questions that were answered in the manual and when told to read it the reply was "i did read it stupid prepubescent cuntfuck"

    and dont give me that "its just those two" ########, EVERYONE ive seen who used voice com is like that.


    then theres the balance issues.

    aliens can kill humans in about 4 or so hits, fine great its a good idea actually, but then about 3 bullets kills an alien.

    thats not right.


    and theres the babblers, they have a normal snarks health, and they splat when killed, but dont do the xenocide damage of a babbler.

    and the clip boxes for alien structures are nonexistent.


    then the marines rely way to much on the commander.

    no military organization would be STUPID enough to make ONE person that valuable.


    and wheres the waypoints? i keep hearing all this "go here go there" #### and the onyl waypoints i get are for buildings.


    then theres the commander problems.


    you hear stuff like "gimme some health #######" and your searching everywhere trying to find that person, and when you ask them where they just say "i dont know" but there location is right on top of there health.


    worst of all is that theres all these great weapons, and no secondary fire.

    i got a scope right on my rifle, great, snipers dream man, but wait, its useless.

    and the alien hitboxes? dont get me started.

    ide say ns 1.0 is a big let down.
  • HelioHelio Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1771Members
    First off, if a commander is bad you CAN kick them. However I think the kicking function is too easy, as I've gotten kicked even though most of my players wanted me to stay commander. Someone wanted to be commander, so he tried to kick me and was succesful. Anyway, two good strategies. One, always make sure you have a goot transport network so your guys can move around quickly, without it your side seems to run out of steam midway through the game...Also drop health and guns in one spot, and just have everyone go to this spot if they need health or guns...It simplifies things for you, and reduces the spamming from soldiers.
  • DanikDanik Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1795Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Helio+Nov. 01 2002,15:35--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Helio @ Nov. 01 2002,15:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->First off, if a commander is bad you CAN kick them. However I think the kicking function is too easy, as I've gotten kicked even though most of my players wanted me to stay commander. Someone wanted to be commander, so he tried to kick me and was succesful. Anyway, two good strategies. One, always make sure you have a goot transport network so your guys can move around quickly, without it your side seems to run out of steam midway through the game...Also drop health and guns in one spot, and just have everyone go to this spot if they need health or guns...It simplifies things for you, and reduces the spamming from soldiers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The kicking function is based off a server value.  For instance if it is set to .5, then 50% need to vote yes to kick you.  If you have a problem with how easy it is to kick a commander talk to the server admin.
  • JasperJasper Join Date: 2002-04-08 Member: 390Members
    If your commander has played a lot of rts. Ns if great and If hes not all lagged out to be a good cammander one you have to do 4 things at once two should not have a lots of stuff build i got 250 turrets and a lot of other stuff in like 40 mins before I lagged out 3/5 of the map was like 1 base it was really 6-7 base with warp gates . I never had more then 300 resource I used it all just like a good commander should.. I had 6-7 resource nozzels  1 in each base
  • JohanzJohanz Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1789Members
    I tried being a commander, and i saw some dots that were buildings, but....
    *READ!!!!!!!*
    IS the minimap supposed ot be white!? Its just white!! I cant see anything on it, completley usless.... Or should it be white?
  • JasperJasper Join Date: 2002-04-08 Member: 390Members
    buildings are blue are men are green click to move on it. what do you think red is ?.....:d
  • IR1IR1 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3963Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shadowe+Nov. 01 2002,15:24--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Shadowe @ Nov. 01 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->no. voice com is for ######### who cant type.

    i played a game with 2 peaple on alien team using voice com, everytime one of them spoke the pings shot up to ungodly levels.

    and the peaple using them wouldnt listen to ANYTHING we typed.

    and they kept blabbering useless gibberish like "this is the shiznat" and other useless spam.

    then they asked absolutely STUPID questions that were answered in the manual and when told to read it the reply was "i did read it stupid prepubescent cuntfuck"

    and dont give me that "its just those two" ########, EVERYONE ive seen who used voice com is like that.


    then theres the balance issues.

    aliens can kill humans in about 4 or so hits, fine great its a good idea actually, but then about 3 bullets kills an alien.

    thats not right.


    and theres the babblers, they have a normal snarks health, and they splat when killed, but dont do the xenocide damage of a babbler.

    and the clip boxes for alien structures are nonexistent.


    then the marines rely way to much on the commander.

    no military organization would be STUPID enough to make ONE person that valuable.


    and wheres the waypoints? i keep hearing all this "go here go there" #### and the onyl waypoints i get are for buildings.


    then theres the commander problems.


    you hear stuff like "gimme some health #######" and your searching everywhere trying to find that person, and when you ask them where they just say "i dont know" but there location is right on top of there health.


    worst of all is that theres all these great weapons, and no secondary fire.

    i got a scope right on my rifle, great, snipers dream man, but wait, its useless.

    and the alien hitboxes? dont get me started.

    ide say ns 1.0 is a big let down.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well im glade you can articulate your thoughts in a constructive manner. lol

    And yes I feel that VoiceComm is a must for any commander, I dont have a prob with voice.  you can always mute people in most games.  Not yet in NS though.

    And I dont see how you can expect melee for aliens to match up untill the lag issue is fixed, and it will be soon.

    My second time being commander I had gotten it pretty well down.  Marines going off on there own didnt bother me I kept tabs on all requests and I was even proactive in dropping them ammo and health during fights before they had to request it.  As a commander you cant be passive you have to be very proactive take charge and lead your team.

    I can see where that would be difficult for short tempered people. So do yourself a favor and just dissapear for 1-3 weeks then come back and try the game again.  Or just go play somthing simple that takes less brain power like pong.
  • JohanzJohanz Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1789Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jasper+Nov. 01 2002,16:04--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Jasper @ Nov. 01 2002,16:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->buildings are blue are men are green click to move on it. what do you think red is ?.....:d<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But argh... You dont understand... Its only white!! i cant see how the map is built!!! When im a marine and not a commander is only white!!! I cant see anything than white,
    argh...
  • OG17OG17 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2024Members
    Could you be in Software mode?  Try OpenGL, or D3D if you must.  If you're not able to use either of those you should really upgrade your system.

    I'm aware that this is just guessing, but hey, if it'll help...
  • MatthewMatthew Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2880Members
    Shadowe, it takes more than 3 bullets to kill an alien you dumbnut. Wait until you see the huge guys thats take like 3 clips to kill!

    I love the game. The only thing I find missing is locationg your men. A list of names on the commander screen where you can select more than one would be great.

    I've been the commander a few times and my troops loved me, I was dropping medpacks, etc. ammo, keeping them alive while building turrets, etc. and ONE KID voted tokick me out and i was banned for hours for playing commander there. That really made me upset, as everyone thought I was doing a great job.

    I love Natural Selection. It's the new mod to play, with the few quibbles aside.
  • ShadoweShadowe Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1732Members
    yeah, i got the same problem.


    you know the minimap? its just a white square, except for me its just like a film over it.

    like someone turned the gamma WAAAY to high.
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