Framerate
Kenichi-SNK
Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24617Members
Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24617Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">FPS Checking...</div> I have a Geforce 2 with a 1.2ghz processor.
Currently NS2.0 works at maximum 30fps and when i go to my mates and play his, he gets a framerate of 60fps.
Is there anyway i can increase performance to increase my framerate?
And another important question iv been meaning to ask yall.
Does larger <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'> <b>RESOLUTIONS</b> </span> lower framerate or doesnt it matter much with the hl engine?
Currently NS2.0 works at maximum 30fps and when i go to my mates and play his, he gets a framerate of 60fps.
Is there anyway i can increase performance to increase my framerate?
And another important question iv been meaning to ask yall.
Does larger <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'> <b>RESOLUTIONS</b> </span> lower framerate or doesnt it matter much with the hl engine?
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I can run NS very fine, i think my comp is good enough to go further than 30fps. So why wont it go to 35frames? or 36?
There must be something stopping it from passing 30. Monitor maybe? cos thats quite an old one i have.
Also make sure u have the latest NVIDIA Drivers, as these may also help ur frame rates.
With ur setup u shud have enough to get 60fps.
Ur FPS shud increase with just a processor upgrade in the future. the graphics card should be fine on its own.
Can't be my RAM since i have 512mb (well enuf)
EDIT: Yeah my other mates comp gets 60fps with his geforce 2, mainly bacause he has a 1.6ghz prpocessor instead of my lame 1.2ghz.
fps_max 60 (for lan games)
fps_modem 60 (for internet play)
There is a <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showforum=18' target='_blank'>Tech Suport Forum</a> bursting with ideas for you to try
your monitor can only display up to a certain speed, my crappy 15" flatscreen can only get 75Hz, and im not sure but i think this is equivalent to 75fps, so i cant get faster than 75fps, it SAYS i am, but i'm not
i may be completely wrong.
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Also play in 640x480 and turn off all AntiAliasing.
I belive the problem with that is it also blurs the sprites (hud, commander buttons)
I used to use it playing TFC on a p3 300or some such, Was ok there cause it wasnt very detailed but in NS you might want to try
gl_picmip 1
it can go from 0-3 , 3 being the worst
Dont upgrade; your specs are fine. Keep windows in tip-top condition and the speed increase will be far more cost effective. Admitedly, your processor is a little slow. Still, it's nothing worth spending £150 on.
over clocking is the act of increasing the performance of a component by altering its core settings to above the manufacture's recommended specifications.
This generally means increasing the Clock speed, voltage, or bus speeds.
Pros:
Faster
Cons:
Voids most warrunties
Requires large amounts of skill to get it to work without frying your motherboard
Decreases component life
Significant inreases. Exponential relationship between voltage and heat output, actually.
I have my Good old 1.53Ghz chip safely under-clocked to 1.2ghz. It runs *silent,* (heatsink, no fan,) and performance is fine.
I acutally meant to over clock it, but dodgy maths screwed things up, and I just left it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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ARgg. You moved it *AS* I was replying. :S Most confusing.
I can't even sit at a monitor with 60hz it give me a really bad headache :E
It has been proven that humans can detect upto and around 200fps
I can't even sit at a monitor with 60hz it give me a really bad headache :E
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<a href='http://www.cinematography.net/TheHumanEye.htm' target='_blank'>The Human Eye</a>
Average human vision refresh rate varies from 40-80fps, dependant on the amount of lighting. Not surprising that most monitors have refresh rates in that range.
They ran a screen at 200hz and for 1 frame they popped up a picture of a plane, and the pilots could not only see it, they could identify it.
These are people trained to do things at very high speed and have minimal reaction times, much the same as many hardcore fps gamers.
Currently NS2.0 works at maximum 30fps and when i go to my mates and play his, he gets a framerate of 60fps.
Is there anyway i can increase performance to increase my framerate?
And another important question iv been meaning to ask yall.
Does larger <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'> <b>RESOLUTIONS</b> </span> lower framerate or doesnt it matter much with the hl engine? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
man, that's weird... maybe you should check out <a href='http://www.readyroom.org/rrfeatures/tweak/perfguide_1.php' target='_blank'>MonsE's Windows Gaming Tweak Guide</a>, 'coz my comp specs are even shittier than yours...
<i>Duron 800Mhz
256Mb PC133 RAM
GeForce2MX 32Mb
an agonizing Western Digital 40Mb HardDrive (7200rpm) </i>
...and I run NS just fine... sure, it takes a while to get there, but not that much, and once I'm in, it's smooth as silk...
so, again, check that guide to see if ye can shave off some windows resources to get better overall performance on your PC (mine runs great when it shouldn't even be able to load up the Internet Explorer! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Now that that one died and I play on 600 MHZ 192 MB Ram and an 16 MB Ati card with 20-30 FPS on 800X600
They ran a screen at 200hz and for 1 frame they popped up a picture of a plane, and the pilots could not only see it, they could identify it.
These are people trained to do things at very high speed and have minimal reaction times, much the same as many hardcore fps gamers.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's laughable, you notice a bright flash in total darkness no matter it's duration if it's bright enough(e.g. shine a TW range laser pulse(these exist BTW) of a visible wavelength into your eye for 10^-15 seconds and you will notice it, by no means does that mean that you can see 10^15 FPS, all it means is that the eye is slow to react and distrubutes the input over time)
Human eyes don't have a refresh rate they work continously, if you get a series of crisp clear frames you will notice the lack of motion blur as a series of non-blurred images mashed togheter with nothing inbetween. Set your monitors refresh rate to whatever you want, you will still see several crisp and clear instances of your hand and not a blurry hand if you move it past the monitor quickly.
Even if you can't separate clearly between more than ~30 motion blurred FPS you do notice flicker up to ~80 Hz, and you will be able to see if motion is continuous or not if an illuminated object or clear picture of an object is fast enough and bright enough no matter what the frequency of the illumination or refreshrate, a ping pong ball in a KHz range strobe light would be visible as a dashed or dotted line if it's going fast enough, does that imply that you can distinguish clearly between "frames" at several thousand FPS?
Any statement of the nature humans can only see x FPS is pointless without beeing put in a proper context, a definition of what "seeing x FPS" even means in this case.
What the hell? I just dont get this.
i did /net_graph 1
and still! max of 30fps when the monitor is capable of 80fps and the comp, SHOULD be enough to do it.
My HDD is a slow reader though, could that effect me? It shouldnt since i got 512mb ram to support it.
If your GF's are similar then I suggest you figure out which driver version he is using and try them. Old drivers are usually BETTER for old cards not worse. For a geforce 2 I would expect detonator 2x's or 3x's something are the best.
if u havent tryed this...then nothing will help <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Start > RUN > MSCONFIG (in the box) > ok > deselect the box <load startup groups>
this wil stop all programs from being loaded at windows including steam. so load it up manually. follow up the same methord and reselect the box to get it all automatically loading. if thise doesnt help....then u need to get a sledge hammer and a new pc <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
NS doesn't need anything more than a GF2. Later graphics cards are just used to handle new features better (ones not used in NS).
DirectX 9
NVidia drivers updated from last three weeks ago
The other program i have running whilst the game is open is MSN Messenger, Norton Antivirus (taskbar, unloaded program so takes no processing power away)
The Geforce IS a MX, but so's me mates.
Would Detonator x2, x3 drivers help me or do me worse for other games?