<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you saying that one class of alien should be able to take on 4+ marines in one go BY ITSELF?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> A lone HA/HMG can take on 4+ skulks in one go by itself. An onos vs 4 light marines however and the onos has to run. A HA/HMG is cheaper than an onos too.
personally I would prefer JPers to take fall damage again and give fades paralise instead of meta. Meta is very usefull at the moment, but its just odd, its some ability you just spam all the time when you aren't trying to do anything else...
Give Paralise to fade, and shoot those JPers out of the sky <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Or the fade could just blink up to them and smack them down, but I suppose that's common sense <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Uh-Oh+May 9 2004, 06:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Uh-Oh @ May 9 2004, 06:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just fix charge. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed, Onos is fine as is, charge should be a game ender which it isn't at the moment.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> from NGE Or the fade could just blink up to them and smack them down, but I suppose that's common sense <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
NOOO this is exactly what happens on most server. Unstoppable non-stop blinking fades are killing everything... thats ****.
The idea with the paralise instead of normal shoot ist GREAT. !!!! really ! Shot the jp, be sure its hard to hit a good flying jp, make a short blink to him falling in ur arms.... !
Blinking and swiping JPs mid air as thei circile the hive is very hard, Jps have much more air control than fades do for things like circiling hives. Fades often just bounce off hive only to swipe at the blue trails.
If fades had Paralise would be more fun to play, meta just is...well good but boring.
I think onos is pretty good now, at 2 hives at least. However, if there is a 2 hive lockdown, onos really isn't a very good option even in middle-game. Without stomp, I wouldn't even dream of attacking any bigger group than "2." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
@ rknZ
Ditto; and devour made easier to use. It's pain in the **** to try devouring LMG marines that jump around like insane rabbits. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Since when eating a lighter meal is harder than heavier one? (Devouring a heavy should require 2 bites or stun, IMO and b-t-w. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Onos does NOT need to be beefed up ANY more than it is. Sure, it costs 75 res, but to make those marines stand a chance against an Onos total would cost upgrades, heavy armor, heavy weapons... 1 marine will die if matched with an Onos. 2 Marines maybe... 3 smart marines and that sucker is dead.
Personally when I went up against a brilliant Onos my entire squad of 4 heavies was dead. Corridors with Onos's are bad, and they should avoid them like the plague. Besides, in matches where there are 3 Onos's at once storming the base means that no marine stands ANY chance of survival... 100% mortality...
<!--QuoteBegin-NGE+May 13 2004, 10:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NGE @ May 13 2004, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It wouldn't be very fun for the rine on the recieveing end. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah it would, you can still shoot while paralised remember.
Used to be fun being paralised and emptying all your ammo into the charging onos in 1.04 trying to kill it before you got squished!!
Beef onos, make it cost 100 res in classic, 3 levels (+1 for gorge and +2 for fade, so 6 levels total) in combat. Problem solved.
Obs: If an onos got charge with this, it wouldn't have any other upgrades, so hell, beef charge too. To the point it makes marines cry. It should be an end gamer. Right now it isn't anything but a handy tool for running away. I'd suggest replacing it with ram or something powerful like that.
I generally think that the new onos is still strong. With it's up hp and armor with stomp...it's a mean killing machine. I hardly find that there's a problem with the hmg, since if your health drop to less then 400, you simply run far as you can, find a good place to hide, then ambush them since light rines are as good as dead against onos. Even if the hit box is big, the onos now only cost 75 and with beefed up hp, so what's wrong. Onos are tank if use by a normal person, but in the hand of an expert, it is a uber killing machine. Also nowadays, tanks are use as support for infantry and others and onos fit well in this catagorie, using stomp to back up fade and skulks.
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A lone HA/HMG can take on 4+ skulks in one go by itself. An onos vs 4 light marines however and the onos has to run. A HA/HMG is cheaper than an onos too.
Unless they block me with a CC. >.<
Give Paralise to fade, and shoot those JPers out of the sky <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Agreed, Onos is fine as is, charge should be a game ender which it isn't at the moment.
Or the fade could just blink up to them and smack them down, but I suppose that's common sense
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NOOO this is exactly what happens on most server. Unstoppable non-stop blinking fades are killing everything... thats ****.
The idea with the paralise instead of normal shoot ist GREAT. !!!! really !
Shot the jp, be sure its hard to hit a good flying jp, make a short blink to him falling in ur arms.... !
If fades had Paralise would be more fun to play, meta just is...well good but boring.
@ rknZ
Ditto; and devour made easier to use. It's pain in the **** to try devouring LMG marines that jump around like insane rabbits. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> Since when eating a lighter meal is harder than heavier one? (Devouring a heavy should require 2 bites or stun, IMO and b-t-w. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Personally when I went up against a brilliant Onos my entire squad of 4 heavies was dead. Corridors with Onos's are bad, and they should avoid them like the plague. Besides, in matches where there are 3 Onos's at once storming the base means that no marine stands ANY chance of survival... 100% mortality...
Yeah it would, you can still shoot while paralised remember.
Used to be fun being paralised and emptying all your ammo into the charging onos in 1.04 trying to kill it before you got squished!!
Obs: If an onos got charge with this, it wouldn't have any other upgrades, so hell, beef charge too. To the point it makes marines cry. It should be an end gamer. Right now it isn't anything but a handy tool for running away. I'd suggest replacing it with ram or something powerful like that.