Eclipse V3.0 Beta5

ssjyoda · May 2004

i like the ideas of moving the doors a lil farther out of ms. I dont know y, but i like the doors, and moving them out may be easier for aliens to bust the base, as the doors wouldn't open them into open fire.

SiLenTDeaTH · May 2004

Yeah, I dont really mind the idea of having the doors moved back a little.

But that still does give the aliens cover right outside of the marine base. Like if marines are shooting grenades at towers that are right behind the door, and the door closes, that gives the aliens some time to heal the towers and get them back to full health.

Iron_Maiden · May 2004

weldeable things in MS?<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />??
put it default if thats the idea

OT:LET THE DOORS!

Thaldarin · May 2004

The doors being moved back will still keep the problem of marines being locked down in an area, I'm starting to think after playing eclipse lately that the doors are ready to be prart of NS History, although leaving one as nostalgia would be nice <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

TheGuy · May 2004

Well if you're really aiming for nostalgia , make the ready room the old marine start from 1.04. It would bring back memories and add a nice touch

NzNexus · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheGuy @ May 5 2004, 04:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well if you're really aiming for nostalgia , make the ready room the old marine start from 1.04. It would bring back memories and add a nice touch  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
now u makes me really wanna cry! memories, yes memories.

Sizer · May 2004

The raised archetecture opposite the CC serves no purpose, and right now the only things making use of the excessive space are spamming lerks.

The 1.x MS was fine.

Reese · May 2004

the 1.x marine start was tiny, cramped, and dark, not to mention that the "inner" half of it was difficult to work with as comm. Sometimes I wish people could go back and PLAY 1.04 for a little bit to remember all the crap that we put up with then. The game is much much better now, as are the maps.

That said I agree this new marine spawn is a little on the big side. It seems to work well though. My only problem at the moment is that a single spam happy lerk changes that weld point from an option to a necessity.

I like the idea of the doors being used in the readyroom....... seems like easter egg fodder to me actually.

KFS can you/did you explain your reasoning for those new pipes in triad? I don't really understand what they're supposed to accomplish and would like to know.

Align · May 2004

I think the horseshoe ceiling window would do better if there weren't any "ceiling slopes" on the sides, and if it was just one, slightly bigger, window, above the crossways(if you count the vent).
It would be nice with some stronger light, like in the marine spawn, too.

Coblet · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ May 4 2004, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Um, how about he just changes it back to the old hive? there was nothing wrong with it... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Well I doubt he will want to revert to the older version, so we may as well criticise what has been provided to us <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />.

Thaldarin · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reese @ May 5 2004, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the 1.x marine start was tiny, cramped, and dark, not to mention that the "inner" half of it was difficult to work with as comm. Sometimes I wish people could go back and PLAY 1.04 for a little bit to remember all the crap that we put up with then. The game is much much better now, as are the maps.

That said I agree this new marine spawn is a little on the big side. It seems to work well though. My only problem at the moment is that a single spam happy lerk changes that weld point from an option to a necessity.

I like the idea of the doors being used in the readyroom....... seems like easter egg fodder to me actually.

KFS can you/did you explain your reasoning for those new pipes in triad? I don't really understand what they're supposed to accomplish and would like to know.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I believe the pipes are to protect the triad generator node from becoming too easily destroyed as its a largely open area (a walkway overlooking, 3 openings and a ladder making the area easy to attack a node).

KungFuSquirrel · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cobra^ @ May 5 2004, 09:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ May 4 2004, 09:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Um, how about he just changes it back to the old hive? there was nothing wrong with it... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well I doubt he will want to revert to the older version, so we may as well criticise what has been provided to us <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Would you like to know what I actually changed in that hive?

I added two sprites at a large scale to add a slight haze to the area. I did the same in computer core, but with 3 or 4. <b>That's it</b>. I fail to see how this is a problem. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Sizer · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Reese @ May 5 2004, 09:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> the 1.x marine start was tiny, cramped, and dark, not to mention that the "inner" half of it was difficult to work with as comm. Sometimes I wish people could go back and PLAY 1.04 for a little bit to remember all the crap that we put up with then. The game is much much better now, as are the maps.

That said I agree this new marine spawn is a little on the big side. It seems to work well though. My only problem at the moment is that a single spam happy lerk changes that weld point from an option to a necessity.

I like the idea of the doors being used in the readyroom....... seems like easter egg fodder to me actually.

KFS can you/did you explain your reasoning for those new pipes in triad? I don't really understand what they're supposed to accomplish and would like to know.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
We did play it. I certainly did. Please don't compare it to a <b>real</b> 1.x imbalance like Bast marine start or 1.x jp.

Forlorn · May 2004

new marine start is better than the old marine start.

However, the marine start is a tad big, considering how little it is all used.

I really like how there are two exits from marine start, but the oppisite elevated side does seem a bit redudant. Perhaps you could take that area and make it something else, like instead of an elevated path, you could turn it into a sunken area or something, or a giant computer, or something which gives is it a tid bit more purpose to the room.

SiLenTDeaTH · May 2004

Yeah making that elevated part a bit more useful would be good, because its kinda out of place right now, has no purpose, mabye even add a door to that side but make it locked.

DragonMech · May 2004

Would it be too much to ask for an overhead shot of the whole map?

SiLenTDeaTH · May 2004

Shouldn't there be one somewhere in ur nsp folder? mabye under overviews?....

Coblet · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ May 5 2004, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I added two sprites at a large scale to add a slight haze to the area. I did the same in computer core, but with 3 or 4. <b>That's it</b>. I fail to see how this is a problem. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That just makes you lazy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

Olmy · May 2004

The haze brightens the hives and makes them look less contrasted. I think it spoils their aesthetics to a certain extent.

KungFuSquirrel · May 2004

Yes, because the map is slightly brighter than it is supposed to be.

Mouse · May 2004

I personally get major fps lag in computer core now that those haze sprites are there.

SiLenTDeaTH · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mouse @ May 5 2004, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I personally get major fps lag in computer core now that those haze sprites are there.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Then get a better computer <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

ssjyoda · May 2004

i can't believe ppl still have old crappy pcs.

Align · May 2004

That haziness made me think of black & white, when you're a Good god, it's all bright and fuzzy like that. Not very fitting for a hive :O Glad to hear it was just a mistake.

BigMadSteve · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ May 5 2004, 05:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> new marine start is better than the old marine start.

However, the marine start is a tad big, considering how little it is all used.

I really like how there are two exits from marine start, but the oppisite elevated side does seem a bit redudant. Perhaps you could take that area and make it something else, like instead of an elevated path, you could turn it into a sunken area or something, or a giant computer, or something which gives is it a tid bit more purpose to the room. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
The marine start is called "cargo transfer" if I remember correctly. Maybe there could be some big crates over there, or broken ones. I haven't played eclipse for a while but I think I noticed two doors in the indentations (best word I think of atm) behind the comm chair. Maybe we could have the railing of a small crane coming from the top of them (think of the railing the train follows when you start up Half Life), and a broken carne grip somewhere in the room. Could make it spark.

Thaldarin · May 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ May 6 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i can't believe ppl still have old crappy pcs.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I can't believe your arrogance =/
NS requires a 32Megabyte card (according to FAQs) minimum. Maybe some people are less fortunate.

SiLenTDeaTH · May 2004

Do they even still make 32 mb cards?

Mouse · May 2004

When I say 'major fps lag' I mean my framerate drops to about 20. Not unplayable, but definately annoying. I seem to recall HL having some difficulty with showing large overlapping sprites, or something to that effect.

(fyi I have 128mb Geforce3 Ti 200, a XP2800+ and 256mb DDR. I don't think it's because I have a crap computer)

k1ndred · May 2004

The new vent near cargo that leads closer to double res node just over the stair is too small to a kulk to get in <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

I Liked that vent, can you fix it to a skulk size?

Invader_Scoot · May 2004

I don't feel like going through the rest of the posts in this topic but have you ever noticed that sometimes when you go under one of the skylights you get a very blood red color on your character. It looks kind of funny to me.

(and i have a 128mb ati radeon 9800 pro and i rarely go under 70 fps in ns)

Eclipse V3.0 Beta5

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