QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-DarkDude+Apr 30 2004, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Apr 30 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They... they took out the MAC? What gun am I going to n00b to place up with now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The UMP.
<!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+May 1 2004, 12:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ May 1 2004, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wish they'd get a native English speaker to write the English content on their site. It's painful to try to understand it :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wot chu tolking 'bout?
<!--QuoteBegin-sonic+ Apr 30 2004, 11:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sonic @ Apr 30 2004, 11:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anybody else think they screwed the golden colts recoil?. And theres hardly any recoil on the 5-7... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes! I found I have to use first person now to get control of the recoil, because in third, the screen shakes too much (more than first!). But now I can't dive... not that it really matters all that much, as a diving kill with Colts seems a little more difficult to pull off now. The powers that be feel this is a return to the "roots" of 1.5 - which they feel was better than 2.0.
The players who liked 1.5 (I'll call them the 1.5ers) wanted the game one way, while the 2.0ers wanted it another. The 1.5ers are quite an arrogant and fatheaded lot (check their forums), and because of their "veteran" status, had more say in what was to be done with the changes.
I'm frustrated with the changes. But then again, I'm a 2.0er. I liked the way the game played, and only had minor quibbles with weapon damages. The game itself seemed fine. But, I played on 2.0er servers. Superjump, autos, full ammo allotment, etc. The servers that the 1.5ers frequented made me want to wring the necks of every player in-game... they're some of the most obnoxious, arrogant, pigheaded elitist players I've played against! But they don't care, because I'm a 2.0er.
So I really wasn't surprised by the changes in the game. I know that That One Guy said that this update would get rid of the babies and whiners in the game, and get back to the "core" player group that matters. The thing I fear is that he's referring to the 2.0ers. But on the other hand, I don't really get why so much was changed, because it only seems to have unbalanced a lot of weapons. The Glock18 and the AK47 were pretty much the most hated weapons in the game. But instead of weakening those weapons, updating a few maps, getting rid of bugs, they upped the damage of every weapon, messed with the recoil of many, and changed the accuracy of several! What's up with that? The Colts, with long reload times and small magazines, now have lost their charm due to increased recoil and decreased accuracy. This update seems to be shortening the gap between most of the weapons, making many feel pointless, such as the Golden Colts.
I have no problem with the golden colts in third person with realhud on. Or with any of the guns. 2.1 owns 2.0 hands down. I didn't even play 1.5 much. Boy do I miss Skyscraper, though.
Infact, I had a game with TOG on the Ville, and his balancing surprised me, because it rules.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But, I played on 2.0er servers. Superjump, autos, full ammo allotment, etc. The servers that the 1.5ers frequented made me want to wring the necks of every player in-game... they're some of the most obnoxious, arrogant, pigheaded elitist players I've played against! But they don't care, because I'm a 2.0er.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Funny, I don't see myself as pigheaded, arrogant, or elitist, yet spent (still do) most of my time on Nashcorp. Superjump always on was a command missed during beta-testing anyway. And most "elitist' servers had automatics anyway. And low ammocount owns...I love hunting down spare guns and kungfuing my way out of danger. But I'm a 1.5'er. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I like that little speech just for the fact that he got to play TOG. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> I envy you, sir.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 2 2004, 06:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 2 2004, 06:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Testament, would you join a server that had full ammocount, all guns available, and superjump, and not complain about it, or wish it could be changed? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd probably leave, unless it was the only populated server around, actually. No use complaining or suggesting anyway, as most admins wouldn't change their server anyway.
And restricting guns is STUPID. I hate "these weapons only!" servers. So much! Even though I rarely use anything besides pistols.
Good, then you are one of the select few that can enjoy playing styles that differ from your own. When I say select <b>few,</b>, I mean few. Nashcorp seems to have a requirement that a large blunt object be forcefully inserted up the butt of every regular player in order for continued patronage. You must have slipped through the cracks (haha, pun).
Before I could kung fu and absolutely slaughter everyone, but a match between any kind of gun and kung fu now is horribly painful unless you knock the weapon out of their hands (which is hard enough since you're only a fraction faster than they are). I think if you have absolutely no equipment at all, you should be armed with the kung-fu power up.
<b>SUPERJUMP WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE ON ALL THE TIME. IT WAS A POWERUP YOU COULD PICK UP. SERVERS TURNED IT ON BECAUSE IT'S "FUN" TO HAVE 40 WEAPONS AND STILL BE ABLE TO JUMP AROUND</b>
I find the new maps pretty weak. Though I was very impressed with ts_supertimor, the textures are really nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-JezPuh+Apr 30 2004, 03:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Apr 30 2004, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IMO not much changed... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i can't hit anything anymor <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i use to go like 300:50 and stuff <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and the super jump was fun <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
TBH, the only thing they changed was how the game is played.
I myself loved 1.5. Then 2.0 came out, and I thought "Oh my God, you have granted me your second son.". Now that 2.1 is out, I love it even more. See, something I've found, is everyone has to find THEIR OWN WEAPON. The Golden Colts aren't worthless- you just gotta know HOW to use them. I myself love the SOCOMs, because their fast, accurate, and cause moderate damage(and I love the fast reload. Really the only problem with them is clip size- I can expel the whole 24 round dual clips in about 2-3 seconds(damned good aim/mouse).
Personally, I think a lot of those "Elitest ****" kick a lot of ****. They act elitest because they really are the best "The Specialists" has in terms of whos good at it. I myself am much like many of them- I have the attitude "Take it or leave it- and don't complain in my face". I love 2.1. If you liked 2.0 more, there are still 2.0 servers, and they'll be there till they lose funding. Personally, I agree with what TOG said- lets weed out all the whiners, complainers, and people that'll never understand. The thing that matters most is to stay true to the mod- not the fan base. Thats how you get unforgettable games.
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The UMP.
Ever try the TMP? Great n00b weapon.
What are you talking about? Thats what they replaced it with.
wot chu tolking 'bout?
Yes! I found I have to use first person now to get control of the recoil, because in third, the screen shakes too much (more than first!). But now I can't dive... not that it really matters all that much, as a diving kill with Colts seems a little more difficult to pull off now. The powers that be feel this is a return to the "roots" of 1.5 - which they feel was better than 2.0.
The players who liked 1.5 (I'll call them the 1.5ers) wanted the game one way, while the 2.0ers wanted it another. The 1.5ers are quite an arrogant and fatheaded lot (check their forums), and because of their "veteran" status, had more say in what was to be done with the changes.
I'm frustrated with the changes. But then again, I'm a 2.0er. I liked the way the game played, and only had minor quibbles with weapon damages. The game itself seemed fine. But, I played on 2.0er servers. Superjump, autos, full ammo allotment, etc. The servers that the 1.5ers frequented made me want to wring the necks of every player in-game... they're some of the most obnoxious, arrogant, pigheaded elitist players I've played against! But they don't care, because I'm a 2.0er.
So I really wasn't surprised by the changes in the game. I know that That One Guy said that this update would get rid of the babies and whiners in the game, and get back to the "core" player group that matters. The thing I fear is that he's referring to the 2.0ers. But on the other hand, I don't really get why so much was changed, because it only seems to have unbalanced a lot of weapons. The Glock18 and the AK47 were pretty much the most hated weapons in the game. But instead of weakening those weapons, updating a few maps, getting rid of bugs, they upped the damage of every weapon, messed with the recoil of many, and changed the accuracy of several! What's up with that? The Colts, with long reload times and small magazines, now have lost their charm due to increased recoil and decreased accuracy. This update seems to be shortening the gap between most of the weapons, making many feel pointless, such as the Golden Colts.
Infact, I had a game with TOG on the Ville, and his balancing surprised me, because it rules.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But, I played on 2.0er servers. Superjump, autos, full ammo allotment, etc. The servers that the 1.5ers frequented made me want to wring the necks of every player in-game... they're some of the most obnoxious, arrogant, pigheaded elitist players I've played against! But they don't care, because I'm a 2.0er.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Funny, I don't see myself as pigheaded, arrogant, or elitist, yet spent (still do) most of my time on Nashcorp. Superjump always on was a command missed during beta-testing anyway. And most "elitist' servers had automatics anyway. And low ammocount owns...I love hunting down spare guns and kungfuing my way out of danger. But I'm a 1.5'er. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I envy you, sir.
I'd probably leave, unless it was the only populated server around, actually. No use complaining or suggesting anyway, as most admins wouldn't change their server anyway.
And restricting guns is STUPID. I hate "these weapons only!" servers. So much! Even though I rarely use anything besides pistols.
I think if you have absolutely no equipment at all, you should be armed with the kung-fu power up.
The game's much faster paced, which I find to be a good thing, but most servers are limiting autos and there's no superjump, which I kinda miss.
It also screws up kung fu moves.
i can't hit anything anymor <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i use to go like 300:50 and stuff <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and the super jump was fun <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
;_;
other than that it looks to be sweet
The "elite" method still works and you don't have to use guns ...
I myself loved 1.5. Then 2.0 came out, and I thought "Oh my God, you have granted me your second son.". Now that 2.1 is out, I love it even more. See, something I've found, is everyone has to find THEIR OWN WEAPON. The Golden Colts aren't worthless- you just gotta know HOW to use them. I myself love the SOCOMs, because their fast, accurate, and cause moderate damage(and I love the fast reload. Really the only problem with them is clip size- I can expel the whole 24 round dual clips in about 2-3 seconds(damned good aim/mouse).
Personally, I think a lot of those "Elitest ****" kick a lot of ****. They act elitest because they really are the best "The Specialists" has in terms of whos good at it. I myself am much like many of them- I have the attitude "Take it or leave it- and don't complain in my face". I love 2.1. If you liked 2.0 more, there are still 2.0 servers, and they'll be there till they lose funding. Personally, I agree with what TOG said- lets weed out all the whiners, complainers, and people that'll never understand. The thing that matters most is to stay true to the mod- not the fan base. Thats how you get unforgettable games.
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But just about everything else in 2.1 is awesome.
C'mon, I use 1 laser-sighted SOCOM tilted on the side... Why can't I use superjump?
Wth kinda Matrix is this? everyone can superjump in the Matrix.