Talking Commander

Shiriki · December 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Voice problems</div> Hi
I've got a (probably rather stupid) question:
I've been playing on pubs now for a while and have made the experience that in modt games either there is no one willing to go Commander or that the Commanders aren't very good at their job. So I decided to go for Commander myself in games with just friends. Now my first big problem is: As soon as I'm sitting in the CC my teammates can't hear me anymore! I can't talk to them although it works very well as long as I'm Marine or Alien. changing the Key from "Q" to "Alt" didn't help either and I've got no clue whats wrong :/
Plz help!
Thanks

Shiriki

Krytos · December 2003

I'm not sure if this will work, but try changing it to some other key, like k, or l. See if either of those work. With what I know of the commander interface, I'm guessing that the q button code is overwritten with the commander hotkey code, and that the alt button is just ignored or something like that. Personally, I use mouse 3 as my talk bind.

Shiriki · December 2003

Thanks for your answer!
I know that NS doesn't ignore the "Alt" key altogether for a friend of mine uses it for the menue but maybe the CC does... Can you talk as Commander using the third mouse button?
Aren't there any Commanders in this forum to tell me what keys they are using?

Shiriki

esuna · December 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shiriki @ Dec 18 2003, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Thanks for your answer!
I know that NS doesn't ignore the "Alt" key altogether for a friend of mine uses it for the menue but maybe the CC does... Can you talk as Commander using the third mouse button?
Aren't there any Commanders in this forum to tell me what keys they are using?

Shiriki  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
No, mouse binds for +voicerecord won't work in commander mode. I suggest using Ctrl. It's easy to get to using your little finger if you're using the WASD setup.

At least yours was bound to Q, when i made the jump from 1.0 to 2.0 mine was still set to V, and that caused whole loads of trouble when commanding, since it's the default hotkey to recycle whatever you have selected. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Aldor_Farren · December 2003

The reason thas it doesn't work is that you have a 4X3 grid of hotkeys when you becoem the commander. For one deactivated it because it's too hard to learn them all, and just learning it probably means at least 3 lost games, which won't make you too popular. But since the keys are the first letters on the left, any keys from {TGB} and over will still work when you're in command.

ZiGGY · December 2003

i think alt is the private transmit button, seeing as I havent played in a while I could be wrong. that would be a problem also

ANdreW1 · December 2003

i found the commander hotkeys buttons when changing my controls and i changed the hotkey q to z so i can use q as comm, rine, alien for my mic

Destructor · April 2004

[Redacted]

SoD_General_Sphinx · April 2004

Kill your HLSS.. lol

musicpete · April 2004

@Destructor: In the main Steam settings (not NS' settings but in those that you get when right-clicking on the steam icon in the taskbar) try checking if your connectin speed is set correctely. After some past upgrade Steam changed it to T1 and my voicecomm started breaking up. Switching to the correct net settings fixed it for me. Maybe it will help you.

billcat · April 2004

This appears to have cropped up in b4. After we upgraded to b4 on our server people started reporting voice chop while in the CC. The same people could hop out of the CC and the chop would vanish. We were able to reproduce this over and over and I doubt it has much to do with the key that it's bound to as we all were using keys that worked great since 2.0.

kiwi · April 2004

i use T when in the cc... i use to use mouse 3 also. but then i bound that to popupmenu instead

todd1Ok · April 2004

try entering this command in the console menu.

voice_dsound 1
or
voice_dsound 0

when the level changes, the choppy mic should clear up in the cc.

BlueNovember · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aldor Farren @ Dec 19 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> For one [I* <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ]deactivated it because it's too hard to learn them all, and just learning it probably means at least 3 lost games, which won't make you too popular.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
:S
a) Buiding the wrong structure is unlikely to cost you the game. Where a mis-placed SC can totally destroy the alien game, dropping an armslab in a hive instead of scanning would just cost you a couple minutes of res.

b) The structures and items are lablled

c) In case you did not notice, the buttons on the keyboard correspond to the position of the items in the menu. So if you know R-> D is HMG, you should be able to deduce that Grenade is R->F. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

At least learn E->S and E-A for med and ammo respectively.

BTW ZiGGY^, it is your CROUCH key that's the private chat function.

Swiftspear · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> For one [I* ]deactivated it because it's too hard to learn them all, and just learning it probably means at least 3 lost games, which won't make you too popular.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I couldn't imagine comming without the hot keys, I suspect it would be alot of frantic mouse movements trying to respond to all the requests on the map. I'm not happy unless every marine on my team gets the RT the first time they ask for it.

BlueNovember · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Apr 29 2004, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> For one [I* ]deactivated it because it's too hard to learn them all, and just learning it probably means at least 3 lost games, which won't make you too popular.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

I couldn't imagine comming without the hot keys, I suspect it would be alot of frantic mouse movements trying to respond to all the requests on the map. I'm not happy unless every marine on my team gets the RT the first time they ask for it.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
True, but dumping an rt just outside a hive for one rine may not be the best of tactical descisions. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

I tend to set my rines out in groups of 2, (3*2 Squads with the obs in squad 4 and armslab in 5, moving to 2*3 Squads when the proto goes up and takes position in squad 3.) This means that you dont keep loose 15 res when a rouge skulk munchies your rine and his rt.

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