<!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Emsee+Apr 20 2004, 11:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Emsee @ Apr 20 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> One spy can uterly destroy sniper wars in TFC. Medics too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Apr 20 2004, 06:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Apr 20 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Emsee+Apr 20 2004, 11:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Emsee @ Apr 20 2004, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> One spy can uterly destroy sniper wars in TFC. Medics too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> True. Getting the other side without being noticeed can be a pain though. A lot of snipers like to do a "safety shot" to make sure you are friendly. I hate that, sends you flying a mile back.
<!--QuoteBegin-Emsee+Apr 20 2004, 09:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Emsee @ Apr 20 2004, 09:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-dirtygabbsnevada+Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dirtygabbsnevada @ Apr 20 2004, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> nah, i was just saying your in a firefight with someone and the round has ended and soon you will be restarted,so you have a choice, stop fireing and this other guy kill you, or keep firing and shoot an ally at start and die...(and this rule is even more useless on the server i play on because it has reflective fire, that is when you shoot an enemy you take the damage.)
Back when ducking as a marine made you "invincible" a server had the rule "no ducking as a marine while in combat" - didnt matter if you were against a wall or out in the open.
In Medics & Soldiers Fortress - i mean TFC - one server didnt allow any classes but medics and soldiers. Reason: Those classes are the best and the other classes are nub.
when I played dune 2000, lots of people threw a fit if you used engineers. Reason: capturing their buildings when they didnt build any defense was lame. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and as for those no swearing rules - what ever happened to muting people? If they have to swear, they probably dont have anything to say thats worth listening to. ^_^
Too bad i cant name any servers but...Let me just say all the following rules exist on 1 server.
-No Placing Mines in or around a hive(If you do, get a instant day ban) -As com no placing more then 1 structure, It is considered spam and you get banned -As com no placing tfs while there are ocs, doing so will get you banned because "you are using the tfs to distract oc fire" -If you shoot a alien in their hive(w/o shooting the hive), you are spawn camping and will get banned. -No F4ing for any reason -If you have a silly name (like "ITSJUSTAGAME" or "coolguy<#channel>") you will get llamaed then kicked - if you dont change your name you get banned. -No med or ammo spamming - Prepare for ban
Also, If you join the server, break the rules and dont goto their website to read the rules your banned anyway, no excuses.
And if theres a admin there and they are loosing they will find something to ban you for, like laughing at a admin that onosed then got killed in seconds.
Swap exp. If you don't know what swap is, it's taking turns killing each other to gain EXP.
And the one time when I was accused of autocasting Cripple in WC3 with autocast hack olo <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BTW, eric_t, don't tempt admins, or they could do something funny, like change your Member Title to your IP Address :o (The fun days of adminning a forum....now gone <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Apr 19 2004, 11:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Apr 19 2004, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Swearing is immature, unintelligent, and terribly rude. When swearing is allowed, small disagreements turn into flame wars, and criticisms turn hurtful. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And how do <i>you</i> place emphasis on words, then, without swearing?
Besides, if <b>both</b> people are stupid enough to continue a flame war, they'll be muted by others and kicked by the admin from the server, if it degrades to hateful statements, anyways.
Swearing = urgency to spoken/writen dialog.
"Damnit, they got Jimmy! Run!" "They got Jimmy! Run!" Which one is more dramatic and urgent?
Besides... You can always mute them if you dont like it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit - Crack, i wish servers like those could be shut-down and the people running them shot. Those are idiotic rules that make -1 sense. I think i lost 50 braincells just reading that rubbish.]
I woudl say the "No Riot Shield and AWP Rule" in CS are just lame. I mean there is a reason why developers put the riot shield. Its like as if peeps just don't want change.
Yes I can see who ppl who play CS are annoyed with the riot shield. I love it when I get to use the riot shield and everyone just madly fires at me with my shield with some weird though that somehow if you shoudl enough you might penetrate. And then they run out of bullets and I shoot them back with a pistol. Yes might be lame but they should know that its WORTHLESS to waste ammo on somehting you can't hit.
[edit - Crack, i wish servers like those could be shut-down and the people running them shot. Those are idiotic rules that make -1 sense. I think i lost 50 braincells just reading that rubbish.] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea and that server has a no swear filter, If you "avoid" the filter saying shat!, fack!, or batch = Your getting banned for avoiding the swear filter.
<!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> no TK WTH is up with that?
<!--QuoteBegin-StormLiong+Apr 20 2004, 06:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ Apr 20 2004, 06:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> back to the topic, I woudl say the "No Riot Shield and AWP Rule" in CS are just lame. I mean there is a reason why developers put the riot shield. Its like as if peeps just don't want change.
Yes I can see who ppl who play CS are annoyed with the riot shield. I love it when I get to use the riot shield and everyone just madly fires at me with my shield with some weird though that somehow if you shoudl enough you might penetrate. And then they run out of bullets and I shoot them back with a pistol. Yes might be lame but they should know that its WORTHLESS to waste ammo on somehting you can't hit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> the riot shield is buggy as hell though, there is a video somewhere showing how bullets bounce off a torso, where the riot shield is not present, and how u can shoot threw the riot shield, its a buggy lame and frustrating item
but i love to use it all the same <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> , whats more fun than blasting someone with a usp when they have their ak blasting in ur face
<!--QuoteBegin-eric_t+Apr 21 2004, 07:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eric_t @ Apr 21 2004, 07:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-RaVe+Apr 20 2004, 05:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Apr 20 2004, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BTW, eric_t, don't tempt admins, or they could do something funny, like change your Member Title to your IP Address :o (The fun days of adminning a forum....now gone <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> please don't hack me too, internet toughguy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> *raised eyebrow*
You want to check that ur megahurtz am't beeng stoeled, while we're at it?
...
Stupidest rule was on a Kali server (channel? not sure) where you were not allowed to host games. The channel was for chatting only. Think about that for a moment - a game matchmaking client being used as IRC.
<!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And how do <i>you</i> place emphasis on words, then, without swearing?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ironically, you just used my method - text markup!
Vocally I place emphasis on words by doing just that - emphasizing the word. Usually this means I say the word a little more forcefully than the rest in the sentence. I may use sarcasm, facial movements and body language to get my point across to the listener. In text, I use the bold tag to emphasize words in a sentence. I then depend on my vocabulary to ensure my point is made, as well as an extra dose of sarcasm (as body language and vocal methods are not present in text). In-game, I may place asterisks around a word in place of bolding. But, as I said, the biggest way to ensure urgency, anger, and emphasis are the words I choose to use, and how I formulate the sentences.
<!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Besides, if <b>both</b> people are stupid enough to continue a flame war, they'll be muted by others and kicked by the admin from the server, if it degrades to hateful statements, anyways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you agree that flaming is bad, but the cause of such flaming (bad attitudes and profanity) are not at fault? And you don't think swearing is hateful? Surprise of surprises, <b>it is.</b>
"####it, they got Jimmy! Run!" "They got Jimmy! Run!" Which one is more dramatic and urgent? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Please tell me how <b>adding</b> an extra word to a sentence aids in urgency, when in fact it takes <b>longer</b> to say said sentence than to simply <b>get to the point?</b> If I was in a war, and heard "They got Jimmy! Run!" <b>I would run!</b> I don't need added words to help me understand English!
<!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Besides... You can always mute them if you dont like it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Funny how giving you make me, when you're simply too lazy to get a better grasp on the English language. Just as I can mute your voice (though I cannot erase your text, which is just as bad), you can not use the bad language.
There is absolutely no reason to swear - ever. You <b>can</b> find different routes of communication to make a point. This forum has language filters built in, yet we all can communicate with each other.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Apr 21 2004, 12:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Apr 21 2004, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I may use sarcasm, facial movements and body language to get my point across to the listener. In text, I use the bold tag to emphasize words in a sentence. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But in many situations, a game of ns for example, these are impossible to use.
<!--QuoteBegin-UnderDOG+Apr 21 2004, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Apr 21 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But in many situations, a game of ns for example, these are impossible to use. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, I made mention of that in my post.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Apr 21 2004, 12:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Apr 21 2004, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There is absolutely no reason to swear - ever. You <b>can</b> find different routes of communication to make a point. This forum has language filters built in, yet we all can communicate with each other. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> so what you're saying is... one should limit their vocabulary?
<!--QuoteBegin-eric_t+Apr 21 2004, 02:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eric_t @ Apr 21 2004, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so what you're saying is... one should limit their vocabulary?
right. great idea. that's productive. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That.. you... and then... don't... I... wow. Just "wow" works well. I'm trying to think up a statement that contains even greater amounts of stupidity, but I think you've hit the maximum alotment in your statement!
If you <b>seriously</b> think that removing profanity/bad language from one's vocabulary <b>limits</b> a person, you definitely need to check out the dictionary. It's a pretty big book - and there are words on every page - words that can be used <b>instead</b> of bad language. If removing bad language seriously damages your repertoire of words, perhaps you have more to fear than not knowing how to have a mature conversation!
MedHead, your being logical to the point of hairsplitting. "****it, they got Jimmy! Run!" does place urgancey on the sentance, the fact that you would run weather or not you are being sworn at has absolutly no argumentive value. I agree with you thier are other ways that could just as efficaintly place urgancy on the sentence ("They got Jimmy! Run! NOW!") but I don't think it is really that relevent. The way a person uses language is drawn from thier dialect primarily, not thier intellegence or maturity. For some reason swearing has integrated itself into many dialects, often as a primal reactionary remark (like "ow"), but also often as an offencive insulting tactic. The former there is really nothing wrong with as it is just the person's dialect spewing garbage, just as anyone elses does, the latter is obviously a flamitory tactic and should not be allowed in civilized circles.
I find that people who swear alot are far more limited in their vocabulary than those who don't.
In game (which is the main point here) any typing at all becomes urgent because you are typing it in a hectic situation. It has to be important because you've just stopped in the middle of a fire fight to say it. In fact the more swear words I see the less important it is, adding all those extra words on takes time which you can't afford to spend.
When using voice comm you don't need to swear because you <b>can</b> vocalise it. You can speak louder, emphasise certain words, shout, scream even!
I have come across very few examples of swearing that are actually necessary, the only ones that are useful are in music, poetry etc and even then the vast majority of it isn't needed. Only if the swear word itself add's something to the sentence does it become ok.
I use very few swear words and those I do use are the less extreme examples (usually blasphemy (not religious at all) or things that have other meanings i.e. sod). I once fell off a bike (about 6 years ago) and skidded down a hill on my face, got up and said sugar!
Too many people find swearing offensive and aggresive for people to use it all the time. There are plenty of words which I'm sure even the most vocal swearers don't say (i.e. racist comments etc). Why don't they say them? Because those words are upsetting for lots of people.
I've argued this too many times to continue, I've made my point and while I could go on for hours covering every little angle so no-one could nit pick... I can't be bothered. In the end nothing I can say will persuade you not to swear. I just hope you realise that those who don't swear (like medhead and I) have a valid point.
Besides, I'm at work and my boss is just over there ->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cpl.Davis+Apr 20 2004, 06:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Apr 20 2004, 06:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate the "you cant use the G3 or Sig 550 sniper rifles in CS" rule.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Shields and Auto Snipers are the 2 worst things done to CS. Im glad that Shields are banned in matches, but auto snipers should be aswell.
What the **** are we supposed to do? When my team is losing, I found that the best way to reduce my enemies offense is by being medic and attack them. Get defense up and have be a good sportsman(sp?).
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
I will reiterate: Any Server that makes 'rules' that deviate from the way the game was MENT to be played, tick me off. Then again, there are PLEANTY of servers out there, and I just leave (or get my self banned so that I CAN'T go back)
As for swearing? I hate servers that are to lazy to implement a filter, and will still ban you for swearing (there are a few things where I prefer to swear, then use my actual vocab. Like after almost pulling osmething off, and then getting nabed in the end: ****! is faster then BUGGER ALL!!!!!)
Howeber, in general I agree with no swear servers.
And if you think it is bad that you get banned for dodging swear filters... then go find another forum <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It was inevitable, and now the thread has reached the point at which controversy is about to spawn flamwars. Allow me to cut it short right here.
Maybe we should all learn from this that there are multiple ways a game can be played in, that none is superior to the other, and that if you connect to a server that tries to encourage a style you're not comfortable with, the best thing to do is just to search another one.
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<span style='color:white'>Don't try to discuss modding policy in the open. There's a PM feature for a reason.</span>
cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die...
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Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.)
HAhahahahah.....silly kev.
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Now the rule that I think is the lamest.
<i>"No 56kers allowed." </i> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Best rule ever.
cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
One spy can uterly destroy sniper wars in TFC. Medics too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
Anyway,
Just a point about people who say you should play the game how it's supposed to be played on games like TS with No pistols or Pistols only or limit on snipers in TFC.
Both TFC and TS aswell as other games like Ghost Recon/R6:RS etc have clear server options that allow you to restrict kit and classes etc built into the game. You know, by the developers and everything.
(Plus when ctf games turn into complete sniper wars, then clearly the game isn't being played as it is ment to be when no one is even attempting to cap the flag.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One spy can uterly destroy sniper wars in TFC. Medics too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. Getting the other side without being noticeed can be a pain though. A lot of snipers like to do a "safety shot" to make sure you are friendly. I hate that, sends you flying a mile back.
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cs: if u shoot a team mate at round start u die...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Slaying intentional TKers is a bad thing?
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nah, i was just saying your in a firefight with someone and the round has ended and soon you will be restarted,so you have a choice, stop fireing and this other guy kill you, or keep firing and shoot an ally at start and die...(and this rule is even more useless on the server i play on because it has reflective fire, that is when you shoot an enemy you take the damage.)
In Medics & Soldiers Fortress - i mean TFC - one server didnt allow any classes but medics and soldiers.
Reason: Those classes are the best and the other classes are nub.
when I played dune 2000, lots of people threw a fit if you used engineers.
Reason: capturing their buildings when they didnt build any defense was lame. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and as for those no swearing rules - what ever happened to muting people? If they have to swear, they probably dont have anything to say thats worth listening to. ^_^
-No Placing Mines in or around a hive(If you do, get a instant day ban)
-As com no placing more then 1 structure, It is considered spam and you get banned
-As com no placing tfs while there are ocs, doing so will get you banned because "you are using the tfs to distract oc fire"
-If you shoot a alien in their hive(w/o shooting the hive), you are spawn camping and will get banned.
-No F4ing for any reason
-If you have a silly name (like "ITSJUSTAGAME" or "coolguy<#channel>") you will get llamaed then kicked - if you dont change your name you get banned.
-No med or ammo spamming - Prepare for ban
Also, If you join the server, break the rules and dont goto their website to read the rules your banned anyway, no excuses.
And if theres a admin there and they are loosing they will find something to ban you for, like laughing at a admin that onosed then got killed in seconds.
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-Crack
Swap exp.
If you don't know what swap is, it's taking turns killing each other to gain EXP.
And the one time when I was accused of autocasting Cripple in WC3 with autocast hack olo <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BTW, eric_t, don't tempt admins, or they could do something funny, like change your Member Title to your IP Address :o (The fun days of adminning a forum....now gone <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
And how do <i>you</i> place emphasis on words, then, without swearing?
Besides, if <b>both</b> people are stupid enough to continue a flame war, they'll be muted by others and kicked by the admin from the server, if it degrades to hateful statements, anyways.
Swearing = urgency to spoken/writen dialog.
"Damnit, they got Jimmy! Run!"
"They got Jimmy! Run!"
Which one is more dramatic and urgent?
Besides...
You can always mute them if you dont like it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit - Crack, i wish servers like those could be shut-down and the people running them shot. Those are idiotic rules that make -1 sense. I think i lost 50 braincells just reading that rubbish.]
Yes I can see who ppl who play CS are annoyed with the riot shield. I love it when I get to use the riot shield and everyone just madly fires at me with my shield with some weird though that somehow if you shoudl enough you might penetrate. And then they run out of bullets and I shoot them back with a pistol. Yes might be lame but they should know that its WORTHLESS to waste ammo on somehting you can't hit.
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Yea and that server has a no swear filter, If you "avoid" the filter saying shat!, fack!, or batch = Your getting banned for avoiding the swear filter.
-crack
back to the topic, I woudl say the "No Riot Shield and AWP Rule" in CS are just lame. I mean there is a reason why developers put the riot shield. Its like as if peeps just don't want change.
Yes I can see who ppl who play CS are annoyed with the riot shield. I love it when I get to use the riot shield and everyone just madly fires at me with my shield with some weird though that somehow if you shoudl enough you might penetrate. And then they run out of bullets and I shoot them back with a pistol. Yes might be lame but they should know that its WORTHLESS to waste ammo on somehting you can't hit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
the riot shield is buggy as hell though, there is a video somewhere showing how bullets bounce off a torso, where the riot shield is not present, and how u can shoot threw the riot shield, its a buggy lame and frustrating item
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*raised eyebrow*
You want to check that ur megahurtz am't beeng stoeled, while we're at it?
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Stupidest rule was on a Kali server (channel? not sure) where you were not allowed to host games. The channel was for chatting only. Think about that for a moment - a game matchmaking client being used as IRC.
Ironically, you just used my method - text markup!
Vocally I place emphasis on words by doing just that - emphasizing the word. Usually this means I say the word a little more forcefully than the rest in the sentence. I may use sarcasm, facial movements and body language to get my point across to the listener. In text, I use the bold tag to emphasize words in a sentence. I then depend on my vocabulary to ensure my point is made, as well as an extra dose of sarcasm (as body language and vocal methods are not present in text). In-game, I may place asterisks around a word in place of bolding. But, as I said, the biggest way to ensure urgency, anger, and emphasis are the words I choose to use, and how I formulate the sentences.
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So you agree that flaming is bad, but the cause of such flaming (bad attitudes and profanity) are not at fault? And you don't think swearing is hateful? Surprise of surprises, <b>it is.</b>
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"####it, they got Jimmy! Run!"
"They got Jimmy! Run!"
Which one is more dramatic and urgent?
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Please tell me how <b>adding</b> an extra word to a sentence aids in urgency, when in fact it takes <b>longer</b> to say said sentence than to simply <b>get to the point?</b> If I was in a war, and heard "They got Jimmy! Run!" <b>I would run!</b> I don't need added words to help me understand English!
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Besides...
You can always mute them if you dont like it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Funny how giving you make me, when you're simply too lazy to get a better grasp on the English language. Just as I can mute your voice (though I cannot erase your text, which is just as bad), you can not use the bad language.
There is absolutely no reason to swear - ever. You <b>can</b> find different routes of communication to make a point. This forum has language filters built in, yet we all can communicate with each other.
But in many situations, a game of ns for example, these are impossible to use.
Yes, I made mention of that in my post.
so what you're saying is...
one should limit their vocabulary?
right. great idea. that's productive.
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That.. you... and then... don't... I... wow. Just "wow" works well. I'm trying to think up a statement that contains even greater amounts of stupidity, but I think you've hit the maximum alotment in your statement!
If you <b>seriously</b> think that removing profanity/bad language from one's vocabulary <b>limits</b> a person, you definitely need to check out the dictionary. It's a pretty big book - and there are words on every page - words that can be used <b>instead</b> of bad language. If removing bad language seriously damages your repertoire of words, perhaps you have more to fear than not knowing how to have a mature conversation!
In game (which is the main point here) any typing at all becomes urgent because you are typing it in a hectic situation. It has to be important because you've just stopped in the middle of a fire fight to say it. In fact the more swear words I see the less important it is, adding all those extra words on takes time which you can't afford to spend.
When using voice comm you don't need to swear because you <b>can</b> vocalise it. You can speak louder, emphasise certain words, shout, scream even!
I have come across very few examples of swearing that are actually necessary, the only ones that are useful are in music, poetry etc and even then the vast majority of it isn't needed. Only if the swear word itself add's something to the sentence does it become ok.
I use very few swear words and those I do use are the less extreme examples (usually blasphemy (not religious at all) or things that have other meanings i.e. sod). I once fell off a bike (about 6 years ago) and skidded down a hill on my face, got up and said sugar!
Too many people find swearing offensive and aggresive for people to use it all the time. There are plenty of words which I'm sure even the most vocal swearers don't say (i.e. racist comments etc). Why don't they say them? Because those words are upsetting for lots of people.
I've argued this too many times to continue, I've made my point and while I could go on for hours covering every little angle so no-one could nit pick... I can't be bothered. In the end nothing I can say will persuade you not to swear. I just hope you realise that those who don't swear (like medhead and I) have a valid point.
Besides, I'm at work and my boss is just over there ->
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Shields and Auto Snipers are the 2 worst things done to CS. Im glad that Shields are banned in matches, but auto snipers should be aswell.
No medic
or better yet,
No infecting the spawns (or enemies) as a medic.
What the **** are we supposed to do? When my team is losing, I found that the best way to reduce my enemies offense is by being medic and attack them. Get defense up and have be a good sportsman(sp?).
Any Server that makes 'rules' that deviate from the way the game was MENT to be played, tick me off.
Then again, there are PLEANTY of servers out there, and I just leave (or get my self banned so that I CAN'T go back)
As for swearing?
I hate servers that are to lazy to implement a filter, and will still ban you for swearing (there are a few things where I prefer to swear, then use my actual vocab. Like after almost pulling osmething off, and then getting nabed in the end: ****! is faster then BUGGER ALL!!!!!)
Howeber, in general I agree with no swear servers.
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Maybe we should all learn from this that there are multiple ways a game can be played in, that none is superior to the other, and that if you connect to a server that tries to encourage a style you're not comfortable with, the best thing to do is just to search another one.
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