Ns_ghost

BlackPlague · April 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">its back!</div> Hey guys, ns ghost is back and its gonna be even better! i guarentee it! here is a look at its layout form, let me know what you guys think!

brute_force · April 2004

OK, first of all, the map is way too compact. There are only 7 RTs. The middle hive doesn't really have a nearby RT. There's alot of long corridors, which equals skulk slaughter. The marines practically have direct sight into the middle hive from MS, and there are lots of dead ends.

I'd recommend you'd redo this layout <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

john_sheu · April 2004

I don't know how to break it to you.....the layout seriously needs some consideration. The first time I looked at it it looked more like a CO map.

BlackPlague · April 2004

okie dokie! thanks! :-d didnt really see that.... but why do u want me to get rid of the long hall way near the bottom? its an old abbandoned railway!

Scorpie · April 2004

he means if its a long horizontal track so if rines are on 1 side and the skulks are on the other, well u do the math who wins.....

btw, that upper left hive, if you start there, the alliens are sure of starting with 3 nodes, the 1 at hive, and the 2 bellow.

the rest i thought of has already been sayd

BlackPlague · April 2004

blah >_< can someone try and redo the layout? im CONFUSDEDEDED!

Jezpuh · April 2004

That layout needs serious work, if not, restart it from the scratch.
There are only 4, 5 (or what the heck) big rooms, wich is bad. Marines can access each hive in less than 20 sec running time. Just restart the whole thing.

BlackPlague · April 2004

meeeeeeeeeh >_< i hate one man job thing.... alright, can someone do the layout? i have no ideas >_<

Olmy · April 2004

Have a good look at official map layouts (minimaps) to get a sense of the scale you should be aiming for, and generaly how they place rts etc.

Caboose · April 2004

That looks too small for even a co_ map...

BlackPlague · April 2004

ok how about giving me IDEAS

Caboose · April 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPlague @ Apr 16 2004, 06:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ok how about giving me IDEAS  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Ok, now I'm saying rite now, that this is helpfull advise.

My idea is for you to scrap that layout entirely and start over, ad a dozed rooms to it for a ns_ map or a few more for a combat map.

Currently, this just simply would not work, you only have a hallway between the MS and any of the hives, you should have a couple of rooms.

BlackPlague · April 2004

can u show me what u mean? i still dont get it >_<

Caboose · April 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads//post-4-1081995722.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Ok, this is a combat layout that I made, it has 7 rooms. Your NS map, which is supposed to have more rooms than a combat map, has 4 rooms and some hallways

Now, this is a NS map layout, notice the abondance of rooms?
<img src='http://www.ns.jolt.co.uk/images/maps/ns_hera.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

eric_t · April 2004

make it for co.

NzNexus · April 2004

aaa! this is a real work!

BlackPlague · April 2004

alright thank you ^_^

so more rooms = pwnage
less rooms = dont map at all

lolz?

rknZ · April 2004

<img src='http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~richens/ns_smooth.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

I was bored <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

BlackPlague · April 2004

wow thats cool, do you mind if i use that one then?

rknZ · April 2004

mweh if you want.

LambdaProject · April 2004

The only problem with that one is that it's a little TOO big. Looks like a long walk for marines.

rknZ · April 2004

Yeh I know, I'm just messing around with a few ideas atm :x

Jezpuh · April 2004

Doesn't look anything bigger than the def maps.

BlackPlague · April 2004

i think the reason why it looks big is because the rooms are kinda seperated and stuff.

rknZ · April 2004

Here is an improved and balanced version (I hope) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

<img src='http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~richens/ns_smooth2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Yellow = Weldable
Blue Line = Press Button Door
Green = RT
Red = Hive
Blue = Comm Chair

MeanMrMustard · April 2004

Needs some bigger rooms.
I love map that has a mix of scale.

Big rooms = big action.

Although natural selection isnt always about the action aspect, it helps to adopt some bigger airy rooms, that will force the 2 sides to clash at least once.

Rooms..i.e.

Engine room or even the sharp contrast of a cantina....it can be anything..but still..shows proffesionlism, and creates a nice blend....the perfect combo for good gameplay.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

rknZ · April 2004

I kept trying to put huge rooms in, because I like them aswell, but everytime I did it created a big unbalance, or looked kinda pointless <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

Only my second attempt <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

EDIT: MS and the hive rooms could be a lot bigger, and the hive rooms more complex I 'spose.

frostymoose · April 2004

yeah huge rooms are cool 90% of the time. huge rooms please.

eric_t · April 2004

no.

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