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NS or Ns:Classic is an epic struggle between space marines and aliens... The focus of that game is resource control, instead of simply attacking over and over again, there is a tremendous amount of strategy involved with attempting to gain and hold resources, build hives and destroy your opponents method for respawning. It is the original NS.. The reason and game that anyone who has been here before 3.0 was released came to play in the first place.. Classic relies heavily on team work
Combat or CO is a new invention of 3.0 to attempt to broaden the NS:Classic fanbase by providing a more "Death Match" style game within the NS universe. It relies significantly less on team work leading to "skilled" players topping the scoreboard every game.
<!--QuoteBegin-freestyle-X+Mar 27 2004, 04:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (freestyle-X @ Mar 27 2004, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> um ya, thats about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Play them and find out? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ok, seriously now. NS has tech-trees, resource management, a commander, structures and bases being set up. Actual strategy. Combat is just aliens and marines killing each other. It's like NS, only lobotomised. As you may have guessed, I far prefer NS to CO <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In NS you have the ability to build buildings. Resource Towers and Resource chambers(for <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> and their kin) gather resources, like the name suggests, but can only be built in very specific locations. Those resources can be used to make buildings, or, for aliens, get an upgrade, or change lifeform. For marines, they can be used to buy equipment like a shotgun, or upgrade stuff, like Armor level 1. Also, your upgrades are limited to what upgrade chamber type(there are 3, Defense, Movement, and Sensory) a gorge has dropped, if no chambers are up you will not be able to upgrade. You need 3 chambers of one type for the upgrades to be at their maximum effectiveness, any further beyond that will only provide backups and the chamber passive boost(ex Defense, it heals everything inside a radius of the chamber with 10 health per 2 seconds.)...
Also, you only have 2 weapons as an alien in the beginning. Marines only need to get an armory and then upgrade it to be able to BUY new weapons. Aliens need to build more hives, which as well as providing your "second hive abilities", will let more aliens respawn at one time, and will heal everything inside it's radius with 15% of it's maximum health(max of the object that is being healed, that is). You notice how hives are pretty important.
Oh, and only gorges( <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) can make structures. So you have to rely on your team being smart and not n00b if you want to have fun(because losing as an alien is the most un-fun thing I have ever experienced).
And...Combat mode. Here, everything relies on you and your own skill and intelligence. If you hang around teammates with more skill you should gain levels pretty fast anyways, since experience(which is gained everytime an opponent is killed) is shared in the formula of, +10 to total sum for every teammate within range, divided by the amount of teammates and then doled out equally. Alien teammates might not appreciate it if you ruin their hiding spot though, so don't run to where they are hiding right after attracting the marines attention. Chances are they will hate you.
Also, you get experience for damaging the enemy main structure- if youre an alien, go for the command chair, if youre marine, go for the hive. Oh, and there is no commander. And gorges cannot build anything. There are no resources either.
You need to level up to be able to upgrade, or get a new weapon. There is a bar at the bottom of your screen which shows how close you are to your next level, and what level you are. If there is a + anywhere in it, you can get upgrades or new weapons.
Oh, and if you die, you respawn with the choices you have made. So don't choose an upgrade you're not absolutely sure you want.
Some items cost more than 1 level. For example, going fade, you would need 3 spare points, one to go gorge, and 2 to go fade(you dont have to spend your available points as soon as you get them).
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> So its basically like command and conquer games just first person? if it is then thats awesome right now im waiting in line at fileplanet.com sigh. CANT WAIT TILL ITS MY TURN <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
<!--QuoteBegin-BarbraStreisand+Apr 2 2004, 04:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BarbraStreisand @ Apr 2 2004, 04:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this deserves a sticky imho... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It doesn't need a sticky, it's all over the main site and the manual. We're just being nice by not beating people over the head with that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So its basically like command and conquer games just first person? if it is then thats awesome right now im waiting in line at fileplanet.com sigh. CANT WAIT TILL ITS MY TURN.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Kiiinda, yes. For the marines, anyway. You've probably never played anything like playing as aliens <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Crono5788+Apr 4 2004, 08:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crono5788 @ Apr 4 2004, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, well the difference between NS and AvP2 is that NS is an awesome multiplayer game, whereas AvP2 is a mediocre single player game at best.
Can't you play Avp2 online? But yeah, Ns wins hands down.
Btw, Fish, I know you eat the live rines only. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-ashor777+Apr 1 2004, 11:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ashor777 @ Apr 1 2004, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> So its basically like command and conquer games just first person? if it is then thats awesome right now im waiting in line at fileplanet.com sigh. CANT WAIT TILL ITS MY TURN <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thinks Starcraft. Remove Protoss. Set inside confinde environment. Add first person. There, NS.
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The focus of that game is resource control, instead of simply attacking over and over again, there is a tremendous amount of strategy involved with attempting to gain and hold resources, build hives and destroy your opponents method for respawning. It is the original NS.. The reason and game that anyone who has been here before 3.0 was released came to play in the first place.. Classic relies heavily on team work
Combat or CO is a new invention of 3.0 to attempt to broaden the NS:Classic fanbase by providing a more "Death Match" style game within the NS universe.
It relies significantly less on team work leading to "skilled" players topping the scoreboard every game.
Hope that helps..
Play them and find out? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ok, seriously now. NS has tech-trees, resource management, a commander, structures and bases being set up. Actual strategy. Combat is just aliens and marines killing each other. It's like NS, only lobotomised. As you may have guessed, I far prefer NS to CO <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
In NS you have the ability to build buildings. Resource Towers and Resource chambers(for <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> and their kin) gather resources, like the name suggests, but can only be built in very specific locations. Those resources can be used to make buildings, or, for aliens, get an upgrade, or change lifeform. For marines, they can be used to buy equipment like a shotgun, or upgrade stuff, like Armor level 1. Also, your upgrades are limited to what upgrade chamber type(there are 3, Defense, Movement, and Sensory) a gorge has dropped, if no chambers are up you will not be able to upgrade. You need 3 chambers of one type for the upgrades to be at their maximum effectiveness, any further beyond that will only provide backups and the chamber passive boost(ex Defense, it heals everything inside a radius of the chamber with 10 health per 2 seconds.)...
Also, you only have 2 weapons as an alien in the beginning. Marines only need to get an armory and then upgrade it to be able to BUY new weapons. Aliens need to build more hives, which as well as providing your "second hive abilities", will let more aliens respawn at one time, and will heal everything inside it's radius with 15% of it's maximum health(max of the object that is being healed, that is). You notice how hives are pretty important.
Oh, and only gorges( <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) can make structures. So you have to rely on your team being smart and not n00b if you want to have fun(because losing as an alien is the most un-fun thing I have ever experienced).
And...Combat mode. Here, everything relies on you and your own skill and intelligence. If you hang around teammates with more skill you should gain levels pretty fast anyways, since experience(which is gained everytime an opponent is killed) is shared in the formula of, +10 to total sum for every teammate within range, divided by the amount of teammates and then doled out equally.
Alien teammates might not appreciate it if you ruin their hiding spot though, so don't run to where they are hiding right after attracting the marines attention. Chances are they will hate you.
Also, you get experience for damaging the enemy main structure- if youre an alien, go for the command chair, if youre marine, go for the hive. Oh, and there is no commander. And gorges cannot build anything. There are no resources either.
You need to level up to be able to upgrade, or get a new weapon. There is a bar at the bottom of your screen which shows how close you are to your next level, and what level you are. If there is a + anywhere in it, you can get upgrades or new weapons.
Oh, and if you die, you respawn with the choices you have made. So don't choose an upgrade you're not absolutely sure you want.
Some items cost more than 1 level. For example, going fade, you would need 3 spare points, one to go gorge, and 2 to go fade(you dont have to spend your available points as soon as you get them).
It doesn't need a sticky, it's all over the main site and the manual. We're just being nice by not beating people over the head with that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So its basically like command and conquer games just first person? if it is then thats awesome right now im waiting in line at fileplanet.com sigh. CANT WAIT TILL ITS MY TURN.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kiiinda, yes. For the marines, anyway. You've probably never played anything like playing as aliens <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Kiiinda, yes. For the marines, anyway. You've probably never played anything like playing as aliens <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"*Aliens* Vs Predator" comes pretty close. :\
Default Alien Class = <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> ? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Pitty you cant get health from eating a marine's body in Ns though. Oh wait. You can go onos...
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Can't you play Avp2 online? But yeah, Ns wins hands down.
Btw, Fish, I know you eat the live rines only. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
thinks Starcraft. Remove Protoss. Set inside confinde environment. Add first person. There, NS.
CO is a crappy game.