Full Steam Support

freestyle-X · March 2004

well when 3.0 comes out, its going to have the full steam support, under the "my games list". does this mean when you install it, it will appear there or will appear as an uninstalled icon on everyones steam games menu.

Daxx · March 2004

It appears just fine in my Installed games list.

*psst* 3.0 <b>is</b> out <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

RobB · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (freestyle-X @ Mar 30 2004, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> well when 3.0 comes out, its going to have the full steam support, under the "my games list". does this mean when you install it, it will appear there or will appear as an uninstalled icon on everyones steam games menu.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I think they meant that you can maintain NS through Steam like CS or DoD -

but the current build creates errors over errors, because, i think, the code of NS3.03b is someway incombatible with the latest engine upgrade.

Thansal · March 2004

3.0 aint out, we have a beata (just remember that)

and If the I understand it all corectly (and I think I do) then it will be an offical Steam game (aka, it will be under the games list, even if you don't have it installed), AND it will get auto updates via steam <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

coil · March 2004

I've heard rumors that Valve is going to be vastly extending Steam's auto-update capabilities, meaning that mods like NS and Sven Coop may not find themselves "privileged" to be the first on Steam, but instead will be two of many.

Vahn_Paktu · March 2004

<a href='http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php' target='_blank'>http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php</a>
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Your Mod, On Steam
[Fri Mar 26, 2004 / 07:18pm PST] Chris 'autolycus' Bokitch - comments (27)

Eric Smith sent the following email out to the hlcoders mail list today -

We'd like to begin collecting builds from Mod teams interested in distributing their Mod on Steam.

Players will be able to click on the icon for your Mod in the Games list to install your Mod and then get all of the files they need. This means they won't need to visit a web site to download the content and install it manually. We will be able to release new versions of your Mod on Steam so everyone will automatically get the updates.

Dedicated servers will also be able to get the content for your Mod.

We should be ready to start distributing Mods on Steam in the next few weeks. In the meantime, if you'd like to have your team's Mod included, please put together a complete build of what you'd like to release (.zip or .exe) and send me an e-mail with a link to the file so I can download it and get things ready on our end. Make sure the build you give us has been tested with Steam.

Please also include contact information for a Mod team member for us to communicate with if we have any questions/problems.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Eric Smith
Valve

So... there... email Eric. Be sure to wish him a belated happy birthday too. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

AvengerX · March 2004

I think that steam is very helpfull and supportive of NS so what it doesn't get a little icon by its name in your list and goes under the "third party games" no biggy I think steam is doing a great job of managing all the HL mods out there and thats quite the job seeing how many there are.

Red_Squirrel · March 2004

Steam will be good for mods to be distributed in this way....

....if they finally manage to fix the infernal crash on exit bug :|

Bobbybirdtree · March 2004

I wish it were the final release. But things take time. It can only be better when it gets here.

LowClimax · March 2004

Hmm.. may not be directly connected to here, but does anyone knows if NS is going to be cached in later release like cs and dod are?
If so, does it mean that bots and/or server mods won't be possible? Not to mention custom skins?

RobB · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Red Squirrel @ Mar 30 2004, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Steam will be good for mods to be distributed in this way....

....if they finally manage to fix the infernal crash on exit bug :|  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I only have this with steam itself.

Red_Squirrel · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LowClimax @ Mar 30 2004, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hmm.. may not be directly connected to here, but does anyone knows if NS is going to be cached in later release like cs and dod are?
If so, does it mean that bots and/or server mods won't be possible? Not to mention custom skins?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I hope it will be in a .gcf format like DoD, CS and HL are, it gives me a back-up incase I choose some bad skins/sounds which brings me onto your second point about bots, server mods and custom skins. AFAIK, all of these are possible if NS is locked up in a .gcf. If you put any custom content in the right place Steam would automatically use that over and above the default content it has but if you decide to delete your custom content NS would not be lost without some of it's files, they're in the cached .gcf file.

And I've seen plenty of bots and server mods for DoD, which is cached up.

Narfwak · March 2004

I was going to post this <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67063&st=15' target='_blank'>here</a>, but Dela locked it while I was writing my post, then directed me here. The post is a bit off, but I don't feel like re-writing the whole thing; I am hungry, and the kitchen beckons.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Why is it that everyone has to label new players as "CS'ers?" This is not unique to NS, either - every other game or game mod I play tell new players to "Go back to CS!" It's absurd.

I play Counter-Strike fairly regularly. It's a flawed game; it lacks attractive graphics, good physics, and features infrequently updated and generally underdeveloped gameplay. However, damn near everyone I know at the local LAN center plays it. When playing a game of this type in a small, friendly environment, we generally see past the issues and just have fun. We don't whine about n00bs, **** about the AWP (or AW/M for the nit-picky), or accuse players of hacking. We just play.

Now, I'm not going to tell everyone to go out and play CS; NS is quite clearly a superior game, and given the attitudes that most of you seem to have, telling you to do so would most likely get me shot. However, I would ask that you stop railing on CS all the time and stop pointing to it as the cause of all your woe.

Additionally, you should stop having such a negative attitude towards waves of new players coming to your favorite game. If you appreciate the community and the game, you should feel happy that the game is becoming more popular. As was said before, new players mean more prospective constellation members, and means more fan work done with custom models and the like. Grow up and open your mind.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Thansal · March 2004

/me reaches for the shotgun.

The REASON why CSNub is often used is b/c it is the largest Online game, and thus has the largest persentage for smacktards.

it is fairly comen to play a game and get either:
1) suggestions that would basicaly turn it into a CS clone
or
2) say **** this I am gona go back to CS.

Rarely do people say that with other mods/games substituted for CS.

Personaly, I do use CSNub as a term, however it dosn't aply to everyone (or even most people) who play CS (and I tend to make that clear when I say it)

I just reserv it for thost fools who bought CS:R and then come into a game of another mod and start bitching and being abusive <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Personaly, I am glad to see new people come and play a game <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
I try to be as helpful as possible (though that is sometimes limited if we are in a pitched battle).

so yah, I can't wait to see how this works out <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Salvation_r2 · March 2004

i have nothing agaists noobs and what not, its CS'ers i have something agaist, not all, but the majory do

they come on, getting pounded, so they bit** and wine and call people hackers and what not. I know there are alot of people that play around, its all good and fun then. But :\ they aculy mean it. num tarts

not to meantion their overall attuide. I don't mind getting a bigger community at all. What i don't want is to see the comunity get oversun with ***holes and what not. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' />

semipsychotic · March 2004

For one thing, let it be known that I play NS and CS, and both require the same amount of teamwork.

Let's read that again, now that your suprise-induced siezure is over. Yes, they require the same amount of communication and teamwork.

"Aliens, holoroom. Get that fatty before anything happens"
"Roger that. Commander?"
"Dropping TF once everything is secure."
"You build, I'll cover. Get backup in here."

"Terrorists at bombsite B, don't see the bomb"
"I'll flank them, hang tight"
"Bomb's at A!"
"Roger that, going to wrap it up at B and get over there"

If an NS game sounds like that first conversation on the marine side, the aliens don't have a chance unless they're coordinated and on their way to holoroom.

If a CS game sounds like that second conversation on the Counter-terrorist side, the Terrorists don't have a chance unless they're acting together.

Simply put, if one side utilizes more teamwork than the other side in either mod, a slaughter is in order. I've found a few good holes in the web where there are good clan sites, both in CS and NS. The way that the CS "community" works, there really is no CS "community". It's really just a big horde with lost of smaller communities, where you may find a great server loaded with teamwork. NS is a smaller game, so we're one big, happy family over here with plenty of teamplay.

Cheers!

Palin · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salvation.r2 @ Mar 30 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i have nothing agaists noobs and what not, its CS'ers i have something agaist, not all, but the majory do

they come on, getting pounded, so they bit** and wine and call people hackers and what not. I know there are alot of people that play around, its all good and fun then. But :\ they aculy mean it. num tarts

not to meantion their overall attuide. I don't mind getting a bigger community at all. What i don't want is to see the comunity get oversun with ***holes and what not. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Unfortunately as repulsive as some of these people may actually be, it isn't exactly our place to decide who gets to stay and who doesn't. If you considered "CSNub"s to be a quasi-race in the social realm of online games then being outspoken against them and their ways is a form of racism. Now I know that's a pretty far stretch of the imagination, but I hope you get my meaning. If I was to say what kind of people I wanted living in my country and being a part of my real-life community let alone my world-wide community I would imagine that most of you would be sitting on a space barge heading towards nowhere with the rest of the 99.9% of the world population that I could really care less about.

Instead just learn to cope with the situation and learn to deal with them being in existence. There really isn't any other civilized thing we CAN do.

Now... back to the original topic that has been so blatantly hijacked...

EDIT: sp

rknZ · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Mar 30 2004, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> this also means full ogc support, gg.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
you get that already, gg.

Narfwak · March 2004

That's the other thing - not nearly as many people as you think cheat, CS players or otherwise. The vast majority are simply better than you. This is a lot like life - you may be the best at whatever school you go to and get into a nice college, but as soon as you go there, you're in the middle of the class or lower. You will not always win, you will not always ownz0r, and you will very frequently see people do things you didn't know could be done.

Welcome to life, enjoy your stay (all tickets non-refundable).

Forlorn · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Mar 30 2004, 05:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That's the other thing - not nearly as many people as you think cheat, CS players or otherwise. The vast majority are simply better than you. This is a lot like life - you may be the best at whatever school you go to and get into a nice college, but as soon as you go there, you're in the middle of the class or lower. You will not always win, you will not always ownz0r, and you will very frequently see people do things you didn't know could be done.

Welcome to life, enjoy your stay (all tickets non-refundable).  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Ah but yes -

Who doesn't always enjoy a good challenge?

Bring on the my games list baby!

saberx · March 2004

I just want HL to stop crashing when I leave a server <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' />.

Salvation_r2 · March 2004

i am not being "racist" agiast them. i play for 4 years there, till i quit and came to ns full time instead of playing it on the side for fun

so i know how 2/3 of the community is, don't get me wrong, i know there are some nice guys

i am talking about the magjory

not minority <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' />

Hybridclaw · March 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hobojoe @ Mar 30 2004, 07:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i just expect the percentage of hackers to skyrocket as soon as it goes bigtime. :\ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
you forgot about the....
newb commanders, res ****, people who whine for weapons, newbs always calling good players hackers, cs players who complain about why a single close range shot from a shot gun didn't kill the onos..........

Petco · March 2004

When cs players start playing ns. Ns will transform the "noob" into a ns noob (meaning new to ns and ready to learn and play). well that happened to a few people I know. So lets stick together and teach things about ns and let it grow bigger and popular.

tanathos · April 2004

Playing marines kinda obligate the team to play together, or else they lose (in normal sized games of course). Hopefully, this will have a wave effect on the player base coming in from CS and spread back over that mod.

Or maybe i'm just a dreamer....

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