How To Play Ns?

FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
edited July 2010 in New Player Forum
A small guide
Installing NS, a simple 2 step guide.
  • Step 1:
    • Setting up steam, a steam account and Half-Life (not "Half-Life:Source")
    • Download and install steam
    • once steam has installed and updated itself launch it and create a steam account
    • If you don't have a retail copy of Half-Life
      • make sure steam is running then open this link
      • click purchase and let steam guide you through the process
    • If you have a retail copy of Half-Life
      • open steam and select "Browse Games" now select "Register a product..."
      • Enter your CD-key
        • valid keys come from:
          • Half-Life
          • Half-Life Bestseller Series
          • Half-Life Game of the Year Edition
          • Half-Life Anthology
          • Half-Life Generation
          • Half-Life 2 Silver&Gold
          • Counter-Strike Retail
        • the following products don't include a Half-Life key:
          • Half-Life 2 Retail
          • Half-Life 2 Bronze
          • Half-Life 2 EP1 Retail
          • Counter-Strike Condition Zero
          • The Orange Box
    • Choose "Half-Life" from the "Play Games" tab and select install
    • As soon as "Half-Life" has been finished downloading you are done with step 1
  • Step 2:
  • You should now have a Copy of "Half-Life" registered to your steam account
    • Downloading NS and setting it up
    • Download NS
    • Run "Half-Life" (not "Half-Life:Source")
    • Set up your Video and Audio options
    • Start the "Half-Life" training level
    • Close Half-Life and exit Steam
    • Execute the NS installer
    • Browse to your Half-Life folder "C:\steam\steamapps\steam_id\half-life"; Replace steam_id with the ID you used to register with steam
    • Install NS
    • Run steam again, If everything is in order you can select "Natural Selection" from your "Play games" tab, do so
    • Set up your config and join a server
Welcome to the World of NS, the rest is up to you
  • Common problems:
    • Error message: NS does not support software mode.
      • Solution: Go to your video options and select either opengl or d3d as video mode.
      • If you cannot select either update your video drivers
    • Error:I only see black when entering the command console and also some texture overlays are completely black.
      • Solution: Open the console and enter "cl_gammaramp 0" without the "".
If this guide didn't help you, maybe the power of pictures will

Edit: Whee updated again to include a small "How to buy over steam section"
Edit: I cant believe I did update this thing after soo many years :(
Post edited by Unknown User on
QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
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  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members Posts: 233
    Hi Faskalia,

    The title of this post is very misleading, it should rather be how to Install Ns.

    I thought this post would have (again) be a list of advices on how to be a good marin, alien and/or commander.

    Though I am aware you are trying to help out the new players or the players who are having problems installing. I'll just add this link for those concerned.

    Greetz,
    XtOf
    QUOTE
    "The most destructive criticism is indifference."
    -Edgar Watson Howe

    Minimaps with location names for 3.0 (final version)
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    Yup the titel can be misleading.

    And your link is provided in my guide smile-fix.gif

    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members Posts: 233
    QUOTE (Faskalia @ Mar 8 2005, 11:55 AM)
    Yup the titel can be misleading.

    And your link is provided in my guide smile-fix.gif

    Oeps wink-fix.gif sorry mate, didn't check those links. Just wanted to be helpfull.

    Greetz,
    XtOf
    QUOTE
    "The most destructive criticism is indifference."
    -Edgar Watson Howe

    Minimaps with location names for 3.0 (final version)
  • candianpersomcandianpersom Join Date: 2005-03-13 Member: 45061Members Posts: 2
    Why do we have to have half-life 1 i have half-life 2 and i dont wanna go out and buy the game can aynone help...
  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members Posts: 503
    Honestly, I'm surprised you do not own Counter-Strike or Half-Life. These games defined the current first person shooter genre. And you are missing a lot if you did not play HL before HL2.

    I suggest you stop by any store and pick a copy of HL, it will only set you back like $10 at the most. And is worth every dollar.

    The reason HL2 cannot play Natural Selection is that HL2 uses the Source engine and HL/CS/NS use the original Half-Life engine. The two are incompatible.
  • candianpersomcandianpersom Join Date: 2005-03-13 Member: 45061Members Posts: 2
    Well that suxs why dos ns have to have those certain files why cant it run like a regular game
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    QUOTE (candianpersom @ Mar 13 2005, 11:27 AM)
    Well that suxs why dos ns have to have those certain files why cant it run like a regular game

    Cause it as a mod and you didnt pay a penny for it.
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • ishwooishwoo Join Date: 2005-03-12 Member: 44980Members Posts: 16
    ive done wat it said in the tutorial many time but i always get this error "your .dll doesnt match the servers"
    its been happening ever since u put in the update but i cant find it i only find the update for the servers.
    i also get your "the map the server is running doesnt match yours"

    its really anoying.
    can any1 help?
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    QUOTE (ishwoo @ Mar 13 2005, 12:31 PM)
    ive done wat it said in the tutorial many time but i always get this error "your .dll doesnt match the servers"
    its been happening ever since u put in the update but i cant find it i only find the update for the servers.
    i also get your "the map the server is running doesnt match yours"

    its really anoying.
    can any1 help?

    This just means, that the server is running a different version than you are.

    Download the latest version of NS (link provided) and make shure that in the server browser is says: "NS 3.0" or "NS 3.0.1" and not "NS 3.0 beta 5"
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • ishwooishwoo Join Date: 2005-03-12 Member: 44980Members Posts: 16
    edited March 2005
    whats the link for it?
    on the web it says 3.05 beta and 3.0.1server files no client

    edit:oops, i thought the client on web said 3.5beta
    im downloading the new version now.this is a great game because it has 2 type of gameplay .gj guys asrifle.gif tiny.gif
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    Woo yeah, I got a special thanks!!!!

    *Mutters* probably never would have known about it if I never tried it myself */mutter*
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  • DiamondCrusaderDiamondCrusader Join Date: 2005-03-13 Member: 45168Members Posts: 1
    excuse me but i dont have half life!
    is there any other way to install it besides halflife?
    mad-fix.gif
    because i want this game!
    asrifle.gif tiny.gif
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    QUOTE (DiamondCrusader @ Mar 20 2005, 04:59 PM)
    excuse me but i dont have half life!
    is there any other way to install it besides halflife?
    mad-fix.gif
    because i want this game!
    asrifle.gif tiny.gif

    Nope absolutely no chance.
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • typical_skeletontypical_skeleton Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13944Members Posts: 572
    edited March 2005
    Wow, just to clarify for all these people...

    HL is old, but cheap. And provides all the neccesary resources for Natural Selection to work. Without the existence of Half Life, there would probably be no Natural Selection.

    Natural Selection is entirely free to you, in its own right. But you owe Valve for creating the foundation for the modifications that exist today. Thus, pay Valve the $10 to get the engine, then download Natural Selection entirely without cost to you, and enjoy it. =P

    Then go donate to the NS team.
  • kylebotkylebot Join Date: 2005-03-20 Member: 45850Members Posts: 2
    QUOTE (Xtof @ Mar 8 2005, 07:13 AM)
    QUOTE (Faskalia @ Mar 8 2005, 11:55 AM)
    Yup the titel can be misleading.

    And your link is provided in my guide smile-fix.gif

    Oeps wink-fix.gif sorry mate, didn't check those links. Just wanted to be helpfull.

    Greetz,
    XtOf

    uifoshgjfdhgd
  • XtofXtof Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15514Members Posts: 233
    QUOTE (kylebot @ Mar 22 2005, 12:15 AM)
    uifoshgjfdhgd

    Oh my God he said the uifoshgjfdhgd-word, pls ban him.

    XtOf
    QUOTE
    "The most destructive criticism is indifference."
    -Edgar Watson Howe

    Minimaps with location names for 3.0 (final version)
  • ReiGunnReiGunn Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46076Members Posts: 5
    edited March 2005
    wel, i've done all you said. i dont own Source, but the original, i ran the taining course, twice, and even completed it just to make sure. i can play online with all the other mod, CS, DoD, etc, but in the 'my games' section, no NS, even though it is in the steamapps folder. i have tried it installed in the username folder by itself along with all the other mods, and specifically in the half-life sub folder, to see if that would make a difference, but no!
    there are a whole load of GFC files in the steamapps folder, alnog with the (myusername) folder, is this the problem? and if so where the hell do i find the relevant file?
    also, the layout of the NS file folder is different than the other mods i have. it is version 3, but perhapse the place i downloaded it from packed it wrong? i'll try to download it from somewhere else.
    i can run the game in my own executable, but just not in steam. when i try to run an internet game from there it tells me my executable is out of date, but that there are no updates availab;e, just like it did before i got steam.
    when i scan the relevant folder in Gamespy, no NS is found and it does not turn up on my list of available games either.

    Help!!! sad-fix.gif
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  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    Well, we appear to have *D'OH* moment here...

    ReiGunn, When you install NS, you MUST change "myUsername" to your actual Steam account name. For some, it's an email address, for others (like me ^_^) it's a username. For example, my NS is installed to "C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\patch_cbl_staff\HL\NS". Notice my username (patch_cbl_staff) is between SteamApps, and the Steam games? If you don't put your username into the installer, in the appropriate place, then NS won't be available under your Games listing.

    Uninstall, then reinstall NS, making sure you put your Steam Username in the install path. Then launch Steam again, log in, then find Natural Selection under Third Party Games.
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  • ReiGunnReiGunn Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46076Members Posts: 5
    'preciate Patch, but i'm not that much of a noob, it is installed under my username, now from two different sources just in case the file was faulty. still however, no joy.
    in the file folder itself there is an uninstall exe file before you go down the level to the actual nut's and bolts of the game itself- will this make a difference?
    eg
    steamapps>
    reigunn>
    halflife
    DoD
    NS>
    (etc)
    NS (folder)>
    uninst000

    get me?
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    You should have an uninstaller in Add/Remove Programs for NS. Use that to uninstall NS, should you need to.
    Given that directory chain, I'm assuming that NS is installed into your DoD folder (right chevrons on directory chains are used to show what is in that folder, use in conjunction with 3 spaces normally...)
    Assuming your Steam ID is ReiGunn (and that Steam installed with default options), then your install path would read thusly...
    "C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\Half-Life\NS"

    Use the uninstaller to remove NS, then reinstall it. Use the offical download page to get it. Very rarely trust 3rd party download sites.

    And as far as I'm aware, NS doesn't show up in GameSpy Arcade's listing. All the official mods and gametypes do (HL, CS, HL2DM), but I've never seen NS in there. Steam has a perfectly good game and server browser, use that instead. Most servers don't show up in GameSpy anyway....
    Teh Nubnos!
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    QUOTE(Me and Femme)
    Me: Ahh, god's greatest gift to man...
    Femme: Women?
    Me: No, the beer, stupid!!!
    Femme: Bah...

    Everything I do, I do it for teh lulz :D

    The one man, dodgy rules hunter-killer
  • ReiGunnReiGunn Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46076Members Posts: 5
    edited March 2005
    sorry, that is my fault for not knowing how to use me arrers!
    it is in the reigunn folder under ns, and each mod has a seperate directory, so halflife is a directory of its own, so is CS, Dod etc and of course NS itself!
    so my path runs:

    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\Ns
    and the others:
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\Halflife
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\DoD
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\CS
    Etc.

    i'm making a right meal of this 'aint i!

    i did use the suggested sites on the official website. but having uninstalled/reinstalled 5-6 times now, i'm at a loss
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    Yeah but NS is a MOD for Half-Life and thats why it goes into "accountname/half-life"
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    QUOTE
    Browse to your Half-Life folder "C:\steam\steamapps\steam_id\half-life"

    Sorry to quote it, but Faskalia's instructions clearly state that your should install NS to a sub-directory to the Half-Life folder, as it is a mod.

    Before you say anything about CS and DoD being mods. The versions that are on Steam are the retail equivelents. Not the mods. CS has been retail for years, and DoD is approching it's second birthday soon.
    Like I said before, the install path for NS will read "SteamApps\ReiGunn\Half-Life\NS", *NOT* "SteamApps\ReiGunn\NS"
    Teh Nubnos!
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    QUOTE(Me and Femme)
    Me: Ahh, god's greatest gift to man...
    Femme: Women?
    Me: No, the beer, stupid!!!
    Femme: Bah...

    Everything I do, I do it for teh lulz :D

    The one man, dodgy rules hunter-killer
  • ReiGunnReiGunn Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46076Members Posts: 5
    edited March 2005
    okay, moved the file to the halflife folder, but it still isn't coming up on the list.
    now it reads:
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\halflife\ns
    still nothing.
    getting to you a little arent i?
    thankyou for your patience
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    QUOTE (ReiGunn @ Mar 23 2005, 10:33 PM)
    'preciate Patch, but i'm not that much of a noob

    Well lets see....

    *cough* Failure is human *cough*
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation Posts: 2,405
    QUOTE (ReiGunn @ Mar 23 2005, 11:09 PM)
    okay, moved the file to the halflife folder, but it still isn't coming up on the list.
    now it reads:
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\ReiGunn\halflife\ns
    still nothing.

    and arn't all these games mods for halflife? the rest of them run fine even though they are in their own folders.

    Read the guide carefully and go through it step by step.

    and its the "half-life" folder not the "halflife" folder nerd-fix.gif
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • ReiGunnReiGunn Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46076Members Posts: 5
    done exactly as it said on the tin, tried variations and everythin, listened to you lot getting progressively more **** off, and still nothing. time to go downstairs, sack this game off, as it dosnt seem to be worth the bother, and spend some time with my wife.
    thanks and God bless you all
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    Don't say we didn't try. All that I ask you to do is quit Steam, uninstall and installed versions of NS. Restart your PC, then follow Faskalia's instructions from the beginning.
    If, after all that, you still can't get NS working, then you may quit from the forum, and give up trying.

    Best of luck in the future with your gaming.

    Lt Patch.
    Teh Nubnos!
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    QUOTE(Me and Femme)
    Me: Ahh, god's greatest gift to man...
    Femme: Women?
    Me: No, the beer, stupid!!!
    Femme: Bah...

    Everything I do, I do it for teh lulz :D

    The one man, dodgy rules hunter-killer
  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members Posts: 1,229 Advanced user
    *Looks to Faskalia, and Xtof*

    May I vent? I won't do so unless I get clearence to...
    Teh Nubnos!
    Rabid, Tech Support Nubnos!
    QUOTE(Me and Femme)
    Me: Ahh, god's greatest gift to man...
    Femme: Women?
    Me: No, the beer, stupid!!!
    Femme: Bah...

    Everything I do, I do it for teh lulz :D

    The one man, dodgy rules hunter-killer
  • possesedpossesed Join Date: 2005-03-25 Member: 46430Members Posts: 10
    I just tryed to run NS for the 4th time and I am having same problem as everyone else. Plus i don't seem to have a third party games menu does it appear when i download NS?
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