[Video Tutorial] Build 250 Skulk + Fade Movement, beginner to advanced

ezekel

Note: While these videos were made for balance test, and the footage is from balance test; the same mechanic still applies in build 250. The difference is you can
a) No longer reach speeds that fast
b) No longer use routing to navigate (this was mainly due to speed, so connect this with point a
c) Use strafing on ground to accelerate

Rest is the same, so enjoy! (makes a minute or so of the advanced skulk video null, but not worth a re-take)

Bitrate: 5000
Resolution: 1920x1080 (If it's not 1080p it's still processing or what not to youtube)
Framerate: 30

Skulk Beginner

Skulk Advanced

Fade Beginner + Advanced

ritualsacrifice

Thread does not deliver.

ezekel

I made the thread in advance, I will edit the main post as the videos upload; I'm making them as we speak. and one is uploading with 13 minutes left. Takes a lot longer to upload than I thought, but that's probably my slow up speed

ScardyBob

Typically, its best to make a thread after you have a video to post in it...

Mestaritonttu

Music so bad it's almost funny.

Also that movement looks pretty crazy OP.

CrazyEddie

I am sad and excited at the same time.

maD_maX_

Lol balanced skulk...

Add fall damage so when you hit that door jam going into pipe you snap your neck...

turtsmcgurt

ezekel wrote: »

Also the movement is not OP, that's just speed running the map and that's after you've mastered it

yeah but to be honest it's not very difficult to "master". I "mastered" it my third game playing the BT, that was also the first game that I actually realized you could bhop. edit: i suppose it would have taken a game or two longer if sewlek and friends weren't in the server actively answering my questions about it.

as skulk it's incredibly easy.. not so much as fade, but that's probably my unwillingness to rebind crouch into a more accessible key to hold down.

ezekel

All videos done, basic skulk should be up in 4-5 minutes, other videos will upload right after Good thing my mic didn't record the first time, as they videos were made much better!

ezekel

first video is up!

ezekel

second video up in aprox 15 minutes, advanced skulk. Then fade!

ezekel

advanced skulk up, fade uploading now

ezekel

all videos uploaded, enjoy

SynVisions

I am so excite.

If this makes it into mainline ns2 it will be the best thing ever.

Jekt

race me

ezekel

Jekt wrote: »

race me

for pinks?

ezekel

so do my videos suck or what?? I've never actually recorded anything before on my computer lol

tummy_yummy

wow, that's fast

SquishpokePOOPFACE

I'm not keeping track of the balance mod at all, but I do say that this movement looks like a lot of fun. It's almost Tribes-like in a way.

LerkinOff

Ezekel the vids are really good, short and to the point.

ezekel

Ok cool, thanks! I've never really made videos before.. maybe I'll make some more, just one issue I had was when I was recording I felt minor input lag and it didn't seem to be framerate related (even if my framerate was above desired) I was feeling like input lag/micro stutters.. not so much when I was recording but it only seems to do it when I record at a high framerate or etc (I originall wanted to record at 60-120 fps, which did work, however at 120 fps there was some serious stutter!)

So I found recording at 30 fps in 1080p didn't seem to give that much, but I still felt it to the point where I wouldn't want to be playing seriously and have a recording going on!

edit: I was using Open broadcasting software 64 bit! except I wasn't streaming, just recording locally! Surprisingly the file sizes are really small

Skipjack

very nice!

devs: please make this official, this is exactly what this game is missing! PLEASE

Loke

You have a good voice. Great videos too. Btw, what are your key bindings?

ezekel

Loke wrote: »

You have a good voice. Great videos too. Btw, what are your key bindings?

All default! (although I recommend changing talk key to F and your flashlight/alien vision key to K)

Also sorry about my voice at some points being underheard over the game sound. I believe the higher my headset volume is, the louder the sound comes out in the actual video; so if I were to have just turned down my headset volume then my voice would have been more loud compared to the game audio, so I'll keep that in mind!

Fule

That feel when you see several skulks coming at you @ 100 mph.

ezekel

Fule wrote: »

That feel when you see several skulks coming at you @ 100 mph.

Oh it's pretty scary but I don't expect to see many people doing the skulks top speed, just the average speed which is still fast but not as fast as you saw at one point in the second video (even then I was making mistakes so ;p0) it takes a lot of time because you need to know the route you're doing plus each jump there can be no mistakes and being honest if you're trying to get that speed you're probably not playing in the match lol.. you're just racing around which won't really help the team

So you need to know when it's the right moments to do this, like round starts for example, fleeing, or map rotations..

Roobubba

I think it's great that you put the vids together. For me, it's patently obvious from watching these that this form of movement simply doesn't belong in ns2. Take a step back from the lolz, which are undeniable, and you see how absurd this is. If it's balanced for movements at these speeds, then simply make the skulk that fast...
Performance is a MUCH higher priority than this, I think. The vast majority of players don't have the frame rate to hit such fast moving targets.
I really want to see an intuitive movement system in place, not a recreation of the engine bugs of old.

Mellow1123

What's the name of your crosshair mod ezekel? I like it more than the magenta dot im using now

WoollySammoth

The new speed looks awesome, I'd rather this game was a little faster.

Also, Any chance of some combat related videos? It'd be good to see how well the mechanics work in times of fighty goodness, and if the marines can fairly cope with it.

ezekel

Mellow1123 wrote: »

What's the name of your crosshair mod ezekel? I like it more than the magenta dot im using now

deathmongers csgo magenta crosshair + melee

WoollySammoth wrote: »

The new speed looks awesome, I'd rather this game was a little faster.

Also, Any chance of some combat related videos? It'd be good to see how well the mechanics work in times of fighty goodness, and if the marines can fairly cope with it.

I would but recording causes input lag, well not so much at 30 fps; but I'm not sure why, my framerate felt stable but my mouse input was obviously delayed (and the more frames I record at or w/e the more the delay, even if performance isn't being negatively affected)

I'm using OBS if anyone can help me

ScardyBob

Good tutorial, but there a few things that would help improve it:
- Turn on debugspeed (requires cheats to be on) to show your actual speed (its a bit hard to see the subtle speed changes without it)
- For movement tutorials, overlaying a keyboard on your screen/video really helps. My suggestion is to use Hot Virtual Keyboard (its not free, but the evaluation version is fully functional; here is my test example using OBS: http://www.twitch.tv/scardybob/c/2261555)
- The background music is a bit distracting from what your doing. I'd suggest having no music playing (its a tutorial after all) or, if you really want some music, use either something from the NS2 soundtrack or soft elevator music-like songs.

ezekel wrote: »

I would but recording causes input lag, well not so much at 30 fps; but I'm not sure why, my framerate felt stable but my mouse input was obviously delayed (and the more frames I record at or w/e the more the delay, even if performance isn't being negatively affected)

I'm using OBS if anyone can help me

For high quality local recordings: http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2972

Also, if your only planning on uploading the videos to YouTube, 30 fps is all you need to record, as YouTube will drop the converted video down to 30 fps. Also, any screen capture program will cause performance issues while recording, so the input lag you were experiencing is probably just from lower fps.

However, if you want to record action with as minimal fps impact as possible you could try:
- Using game capture rather than monitor or software capture (will need to run the 32-bit version of OBS and have NS2 be in fullscreen mode)
- Setting the x264 preset to either superfast or ultrafast (will produce lower quality video)