See that's the reason why I rarely go on UK and US servers I hardly understand what the hell the comm is yelling at me (you talk too fast!), and if I try voicecomm they don't understand me neither because of my accent, so I'm stuck with typing. I'm sure if I get on your server I'd get a ban because I didn't understand what you said
<!--QuoteBegin--GREENEGGSANDHAM+Sep 2 2003, 08:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GREENEGGSANDHAM @ Sep 2 2003, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats how it is on our server <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is the kind of server I most definately avoid, do you have to have blond hair and blue eyes to play there too?
<!--QuoteBegin--Jane+Sep 2 2003, 05:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jane @ Sep 2 2003, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--GREENEGGSANDHAM+Sep 2 2003, 08:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GREENEGGSANDHAM @ Sep 2 2003, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats how it is on our server <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is the kind of server I most definately avoid, do you have to have blond hair and blue eyes to play there too?
not very noobie freindly.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It isn't newbie friendly. It isn't supposed to be. It even says so in the rules. Vets are there like 24/7, that's why he never experienced this because of playing with experienced players...
Whatever floats your boat. I like winning and playing with good players as much as the next guy, but I think noobs need to be treated fairly too. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
or how bout u just let the commander specify how much ammo u can get from the armory per person? iono...could work... lol if in emergency just set to 0 ammo.......lol even if they hump they wont get anything <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> now thats MY kind of armory one where ammo is a rarity......mmmmmmmm....rarity
or how bout u just let the commander specify how much ammo u can get from the armory per person? iono...could work... lol if in emergency just set to 0 ammo.......lol even if they hump they wont get anything <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> now thats MY kind of armory one where ammo is a rarity......mmmmmmmm....rarity <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Now THAT is a good idea. And when the player is looking at the armory it will display the max reserve ammo you can get for your current weapon on the GUI.
Although I doubt they'd do this... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
To prevent it, comms should make armorys at all of the small bases marines have, so they will know ammo isnt far away. But nothing will stop the idoits
I like the exploding armory idea. It should be part of the "Roll the Dice" thing. With a hefty chance of blowing up your armory added <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->. Or maybe if you carry too much ammo, an adverse effect could happen. Not the lowering in speed thing, it's too minor. Maybe something like the more ammo you carry, the larger the possibility every skulk attack could bite a clip, thus making it explode and kill you instantely or wound you quite some. Just a thought...
Also, why doesn't the armory give out full clips <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Is this a balance issue or what?
<!--QuoteBegin--JohnnySmash+Sep 2 2003, 10:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JohnnySmash @ Sep 2 2003, 10:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the armory should explode if anyone tries to get ammo from it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It already does.
tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
Now, what about an armoury that gets electrified when the comm holds down a button? Only damaging marines, of course.
*hump*hump*hump* Move to your waypoint, soldier! *hump*hump*hump* *GZZZZZT*
<!--QuoteBegin--Jane+Sep 2 2003, 07:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jane @ Sep 2 2003, 07:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> do you have to have blond hair and blue eyes to play there too? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yes, and for obvious reasons formal attire is also mandatory by ruling of the primary district of gorge gang affairs circa 1972
I think you should give the commander the HAND OF GOD! He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH* *AHHHH, HELP ME!!!* "OMG, Steves Possessed!" "No hes not." *AHHH, *THUD* "Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?" "He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk" "Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?" *FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH*
<!--QuoteBegin--GREENEGGSANDHAM+Sep 2 2003, 05:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GREENEGGSANDHAM @ Sep 2 2003, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why cant you just ban the people that do this? it hardly seems worth the effort of babying them with ips all around <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> would you like playing alone? I dont =D
<!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Sep 3 2003, 09:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Sep 3 2003, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think you should give the commander the HAND OF GOD! He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH* *AHHHH, HELP ME!!!* "OMG, Steves Possessed!" "No hes not." *AHHH, *THUD* "Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?" "He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk" "Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?" *FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Majin, that has to be one of the funniest things I have ever read. I laughed so hard, I actually spit the soda I was drinking!
Could you imagine that in-game?! If I actually saw that, I don't think I could continue playing. I'd be laughing too hard.
I the commander should have the option to admin_slap all his troops <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
voogru has a script that puts a medpack ontop of the armory.... [this will be fun] maybe if we ask him he can make something like this: commander gets a console command comm_nohump ( 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 ) when set to nonzero a skull is placed ontop of the armory and give this message to all marines [comm_nohump value] clips may be taken from the armory after that many clips attempting to take ammo results in a 5hp slap and no medpacks from the comm so hows about it voogru?
As soon as I see a significant part of my team (like at least 30% to 40%) just armory humping, I just recycle the IPs and laugh my big butt off as a single skulk kills about 5 marines without getting shot at once from armory humping. AHAHA
<!--QuoteBegin--Paranoia-2MB+Sep 2 2003, 04:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Paranoia-2MB @ Sep 2 2003, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You could make the Armory give out a full 50 clip instead of a half clip. Would save up on time and could work for the shotgun. (I wish for the GL)
Or..place mines around the Armory, if the marines die by a skulk hitting it. Their fault..not yours. If they are going to kick you..then build a bunch of random crap and change teams or something. LoL <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> damn straight
I like armory humpers. So much easier to just run in and munch on them.
Or, whats even funnier, is when I spore them from a vent, they take a few steps back to take a few shots at me, but they don't step back far enough to get out of the cloud. I spore once more at the armory, then hide in the vents, and they go back to humping the freshly clouded armory, causing two or three to drop dead instantly.
Armory humpers = free res (I'm alien most often if you couldn't tell).
People need to learn about armoury humping, I have even seen experienced players caughts by the alure of the armoury. I don't know why but in 2.0 it's so much more damaging to the team but seems so much more enticing.
2v2 game a little while back, just mucking about really but on veil my marine was experienced so as I sent him from the left res tower to the right to save it from skulk chomp I dared to drop a shotgun for him on the way. I figured 10 shots is easily enough for two skulks and I'll drop him some more ammo on the way... I was stunned into silent disbelief as the moment the shotgun drops into his hands he turns 180 and runs to hump the armoury!
He's not normally guilty of this and did apologise when he realized it cost us the res tower but it highlighted the problem to me.
It is really not hard for a newbie to learn that filling up with ammo is wrong if they are willing to listen. If they aren't willing to listen they'll never make a good team member. So my rules are...
1. Tell them not to hump. 2. Make sure they get ammo when needed. If the comm leaves me to die with an empty clip more than a couple of times after repeated requests for ammo I will take an extra clip or three the next time I spawn.* I have sympathy for marines who dont get support from their commander when trying to follow orders. 3. Name and shame humpers. 4. If it's bad, admin_muppet. They might learn from this:- admin_muppet nsplayer 60 Stop humping the armoury.
Making the IP hard to get to makes GL's a nightmare and although I like the russian roulette system it will damage you more in the long run. Building the armoury late means heavy weapons wont be along for ages, which also means no JP's or HA's and dont you need an armoury for other structures too?
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>*Yes I had a comm that repeatedly sent us to lmg OC's whilst telling us not to hump, not supplying a GL, upgrades or ammo on site and then shouted at us for getting ammo from the armoury and dying all the time before we got to waypoints. He then blamed the loss of the game afterwards on f***ing noobs armoury humping.</span>
ChurchMeatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2Join Date: 2002-12-31Member: 11646Members, Constellation
I personally would like to be able to slap my marines for 5 hp whenever I want. In exchange for the damage they get a slight speed bonus for a small duration <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Also I want to be able to feed them chickens to reward them for good work...
<!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Sep 3 2003, 09:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Sep 3 2003, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think you should give the commander the HAND OF GOD! He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH* *AHHHH, HELP ME!!!* "OMG, Steves Possessed!" "No hes not." *AHHH, *THUD* "Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?" "He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk" "Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?" *FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> DAMN YOU!I ALMOST CHOCKED ON MY CHOCOLATE!
Man wouldnt i just LOVE to see that added in.....dungeon keeper anyone?
4 IPs is a bit much early in the game. Next time I com, Armory in the corner first, then the two IPs. Also, build the IPs a little away from the armory. Not that close to it.
This is genious. The reason it works is, if nobody is dying in major offensives, then fine, hump that hot little armory till it can't take anymore, smoke up, and ask it "so was it good for you?" However, if you and a few other folks are dying around the same time, you're probably needed back where you died, and not with a lot of ammo. So don't keep humping, or your buddy will be giving you about what you deserve.
Admittedly it would only happen if you had the armory in a corner with three walls on the side and only one IP, but if it did end up like that, I think the server would collapse into a black hole of stupidity. Priceless.
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That is the kind of server I most definately avoid, do you have to have blond hair and blue eyes to play there too?
not very noobie freindly....
That is the kind of server I most definately avoid, do you have to have blond hair and blue eyes to play there too?
not very noobie freindly.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It isn't newbie friendly. It isn't supposed to be. It even says so in the rules. Vets are there like 24/7, that's why he never experienced this because of playing with experienced players...
-JohnnySmash
nice nice
or how bout u just let the commander specify how much ammo u can get from the armory per person?
iono...could work... lol
if in emergency just set to 0 ammo.......lol
even if they hump they wont get anything <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
now thats MY kind of armory
one where ammo is a rarity......mmmmmmmm....rarity
nice nice
or how bout u just let the commander specify how much ammo u can get from the armory per person?
iono...could work... lol
if in emergency just set to 0 ammo.......lol
even if they hump they wont get anything <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
now thats MY kind of armory
one where ammo is a rarity......mmmmmmmm....rarity <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now THAT is a good idea. And when the player is looking at the armory it will display the max reserve ammo you can get for your current weapon on the GUI.
Although I doubt they'd do this... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
-JohnnySmash
"DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING MORON!"
Also, why doesn't the armory give out full clips <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Is this a balance issue or what?
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It already does.
It's called a 4 kill xenocide, yeah baby!
Go marines! You hump that puppy!
*hump*hump*hump*
Move to your waypoint, soldier!
*hump*hump*hump*
*GZZZZZT*
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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yes, and for obvious reasons formal attire is also mandatory by ruling of the primary district of gorge gang affairs circa 1972
He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH*
*AHHHH, HELP ME!!!*
"OMG, Steves Possessed!"
"No hes not."
*AHHH, *THUD*
"Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?"
"He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk"
"Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?"
*FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH*
would you like playing alone? I dont =D
He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH*
*AHHHH, HELP ME!!!*
"OMG, Steves Possessed!"
"No hes not."
*AHHH, *THUD*
"Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?"
"He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk"
"Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?"
*FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH*<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Majin, that has to be one of the funniest things I have ever read. I laughed so hard, I actually spit the soda I was drinking!
Could you imagine that in-game?! If I actually saw that, I don't think I could continue playing. I'd be laughing too hard.
Metamod plugin go!
maybe if we ask him he can make something like this:
commander gets a console command comm_nohump ( 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 )
when set to nonzero a skull is placed ontop of the armory and give this message to all marines
[comm_nohump value] clips may be taken from the armory
after that many clips attempting to take ammo results in a 5hp slap and no medpacks from the comm
so hows about it voogru?
As soon as I see a significant part of my team (like at least 30% to 40%) just armory humping, I just recycle the IPs and laugh my big butt off as a single skulk kills about 5 marines without getting shot at once from armory humping. AHAHA
gg aliens!
Or..place mines around the Armory, if the marines die by a skulk hitting it. Their fault..not yours. If they are going to kick you..then build a bunch of random crap and change teams or something. LoL <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
damn straight
Or, whats even funnier, is when I spore them from a vent, they take a few steps back to take a few shots at me, but they don't step back far enough to get out of the cloud. I spore once more at the armory, then hide in the vents, and they go back to humping the freshly clouded armory, causing two or three to drop dead instantly.
Armory humpers = free res (I'm alien most often if you couldn't tell).
<!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
2v2 game a little while back, just mucking about really but on veil my marine was experienced so as I sent him from the left res tower to the right to save it from skulk chomp I dared to drop a shotgun for him on the way. I figured 10 shots is easily enough for two skulks and I'll drop him some more ammo on the way...
I was stunned into silent disbelief as the moment the shotgun drops into his hands he turns 180 and runs to hump the armoury!
He's not normally guilty of this and did apologise when he realized it cost us the res tower but it highlighted the problem to me.
It is really not hard for a newbie to learn that filling up with ammo is wrong if they are willing to listen. If they aren't willing to listen they'll never make a good team member. So my rules are...
1. Tell them not to hump.
2. Make sure they get ammo when needed. If the comm leaves me to die with an empty clip more than a couple of times after repeated requests for ammo I will take an extra clip or three the next time I spawn.* I have sympathy for marines who dont get support from their commander when trying to follow orders.
3. Name and shame humpers.
4. If it's bad, admin_muppet. They might learn from this:- admin_muppet nsplayer 60 Stop humping the armoury.
Making the IP hard to get to makes GL's a nightmare and although I like the russian roulette system it will damage you more in the long run. Building the armoury late means heavy weapons wont be along for ages, which also means no JP's or HA's and dont you need an armoury for other structures too?
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>*Yes I had a comm that repeatedly sent us to lmg OC's whilst telling us not to hump, not supplying a GL, upgrades or ammo on site and then shouted at us for getting ammo from the armoury and dying all the time before we got to waypoints. He then blamed the loss of the game afterwards on f***ing noobs armoury humping.</span>
He can pick your **** up and toss you around the room if you dont listen!
*AHHHHHH, *SMASH*
*AHHHH, HELP ME!!!*
"OMG, Steves Possessed!"
"No hes not."
*AHHH, *THUD*
"Then why is he flying around the room and smashing into the walls?"
"He was the reason we lost that outpost, he was too busy getting 250 rnd to step through the phase and kill that lerk"
"Ahhhh, do you have any pop corn?"
*FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... *SMASH* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
DAMN YOU!I ALMOST CHOCKED ON MY CHOCOLATE!
Man wouldnt i just LOVE to see that added in.....dungeon keeper anyone?
4 IPs is a bit much early in the game. Next time I com, Armory in the corner first, then the two IPs. Also, build the IPs a little away from the armory. Not that close to it.
This is genious. The reason it works is, if nobody is dying in major offensives, then fine, hump that hot little armory till it can't take anymore, smoke up, and ask it "so was it good for you?" However, if you and a few other folks are dying around the same time, you're probably needed back where you died, and not with a lot of ammo. So don't keep humping, or your buddy will be giving you about what you deserve.
However.
There is this problem...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Idiot 1 humps armory
Idiot 2 respawns
Idiot 2 humps armory
Idiot 1 respawns
Idiot 1 humps armory
Idiot 2 respawns<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Admittedly it would only happen if you had the armory in a corner with three walls on the side and only one IP, but if it did end up like that, I think the server would collapse into a black hole of stupidity. Priceless.