Welder > Hmg/gl?

XCan · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">wicked efficient</div> How many of you have experienced whenever a squad of HA gets larger than 3 they tend to use their welders as primary weapon instead of HMG or GL? I myself find this although efficient but very wrong. I understand why they do it, simply due to the welder's long initiate time and the HMG's long reloading time.

Maybe this could be issued to 1.1? Making the HMG a bit faster to reload with a HA (they're after all powered) or lessen the initiate time for the welder. I don't know, what do you think?

Elite_Guard · June 2003

but welder rush is so fun! My clan did a 9 man welder/HA only rush from marine spawn on Bast to feedwater. No one died, and the only noise to be heard was skulk bites.

Supernorn · June 2003

Yesterday in a game we were about to attempt a last ditch assault on the hives with HA and HMGS. We were heading down the lift and someone shouted that they needed welding. Of course, <i>every single soldier</i> put away their HMGs and got out their welders, and carried on walking and welding at the same time. They were soon ambushed by fades, skulks and lerks, and i had enough time to pull out my shotgun and take a few shots before all but one HA marine was dead.

The moral of the story is, dont go to the enemy un-prepared. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

XCan · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jun 14 2003, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yesterday in a game we were about to attempt a last ditch assault on the hives with HA and HMGS. We were heading down the lift and someone shouted that they needed welding. Of course, <i>every single soldier</i> put away their HMGs and got out their welders, and carried on walking and welding at the same time. They were soon ambushed by fades, skulks and lerks, and i had enough time to pull out my shotgun and take a few shots before all but one HA marine was dead.

The moral of the story is, dont go to the enemy un-prepared. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
How do you die to a fade if everyone keeps welding?

policeunit7 · June 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> Dude why complain about welder rushes? It would be embarrassing to die in a welder rush cause it only cause 60 for each marine to be equiped with HA and welder. And by the way the cheapest thing is actually when jet pack marines lay mines on top of your hive then start to kill it cause when ever you go up there you get blow the hell back from mines.

Oh ya it also makes you look like your just playing around when you welder rush so the aliens are like..... "omg we lost to a bunch of marines that are just playing around and we are trying as hard as we can....." Yes and they should make the welder less effective against eneimies cause all it does is burn you .... big woop, they should though make it a complete anti-building gun that eats away at anything in a matter or seconds or a couple of minutes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'>

criticaI · June 2003

If you use a welder and you have a gl hanging over your shoulder in 1.1, I'm going to stamp you [STUPID].

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Supernorn · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jun 14 2003, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jun 14 2003, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yesterday in a game we were about to attempt a last ditch assault on the hives with HA and HMGS. We were heading down the lift and someone shouted that they needed welding. Of course, <i>every single soldier</i> put away their HMGs and got out their welders, and carried on walking and welding at the same time. They were soon ambushed by fades, skulks and lerks, and i had enough time to pull out my shotgun and take a few shots before all but one HA marine was dead.

The moral of the story is, dont go to the enemy un-prepared. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
How do you die to a fade if everyone keeps welding?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Because HA absorbs damage, it does not take the entire blow, so you still lose health. Thats how people can have full armour but are at 10hp.

antichrist · June 2003

I sadly dont see much HA rush so sadly ever see this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Elite_Guard · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jun 14 2003, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Because HA absorbs damage, it does not take the entire blow, so you still lose health. Thats how people can have full armour but are at 10hp.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Medspam + Welder rush = teh pwn <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Infected_Marine · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elite Guard @ Jun 14 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Jun 14 2003, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Because HA absorbs damage, it does not take the entire blow, so you still lose health. Thats how people can have full armour but are at 10hp. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Medspam + Welder rush = teh pwn <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
It does, but if the aliens take out the comm chair, those are dead men in tin cans <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Truely that is the only way to stop some HA/Welder trains.

lolfighter · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Jun 15 2003, 02:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [...]Truely that is the only way to stop some HA/Welder trains.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
At least it's the easiest way if nobody is watching the base.
Hmm, HA absorbs 95% of damage, this means that if you can deal a mere 2000 points of damage to a HA without him getting a medpack inbetween, he is dead even if he gets welded!

Forlorn · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jun 14 2003, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Jun 15 2003, 02:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [...]Truely that is the only way to stop some HA/Welder trains. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
At least it's the easiest way if nobody is watching the base.
Hmm, HA absorbs 95% of damage, this means that if you can deal a mere 2000 points of damage to a HA without him getting a medpack inbetween, he is dead even if he gets welded!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Even if you don't get wielded, and if you have lv. 3 armor, that means you will take around 900 points of damage.

With medspam and a wielder, you can't die.

UnderDOG · June 2003

it only takes 95% off damage when your at full or near full armor

Grimm · June 2003

Just make sure you're not alone when you're in HA, any Kharra can rush in an take you out before you can even turn around. That HA is just too darn slow... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>

lolfighter · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grimm @ Jun 15 2003, 06:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Just make sure you're not alone when you're in HA, any Kharra can rush in an take you out before you can even turn around. That HA is just too darn slow... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Anyone who runs around <b>alone</b> in HA <b>deserves</b> to die.

Obliterater · June 2003

The best welder HA rushes are the ones where they have to figure out how to kill a hive thats up high, like refinery. Its just amazing to see 8 HA's hop on eachothers heads so the top one can weld the hive.

MeLeNkO · June 2003

Welders rule for a rushing

Welder > Hmg/gl?

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