Omg Ha Immune Gas

Lt_HendricksonLt_Hendrickson Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14761Members
edited June 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">WOOT WOOT WOOT</div> i read flaya said he may do that. I've suggested taht a thousand times. I'm so happy. My eyes got sooo wide when i read that. What do you think?

O ya then i thought this. It makes perfect sense HA would be air take and immune but um, what about after armor is damaged a bit. wouldn't gas leak in?
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lt. Hendrickson+Jun 6 2003, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt. Hendrickson @ Jun 6 2003, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My eyes got sooo wide when i read that. What do you think?
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    I think you need to see an eye doctor. And I agree, it is a nice feature.
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  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    I would like this too. I find it to be very amusing that right now the weak part of the HA marine is the marine inside. Health almost always is gone before armor.

    Its not a huge tactical advantage because lone HA marines are easily taken down by means other than spore clouds, and a group of HA marines is pretty much invulnerable if they know what they are doing.
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  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    It does make sense but I always thought HA's are counter to Spore themselves...without any special attributes. Well, what makes you happy makes me happy...
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    it's not gas but some corrosive spore thing that can sense the flesh inside the HA
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  • MagiTekMagiTek Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5057Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Jun 6 2003, 08:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Jun 6 2003, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it's not gas but some corrosive spore thing that can sense the flesh inside the HA <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The spores don't attack a commander who's sitting in the chair.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Link, please? I've not read anything about that, nor can the search function find any reference to it, filtered down to Flayra's posts only. Sounds more along the lines of a bit of social engineering, at the moment.
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  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=30&t=34012' target='_blank'>Clickeh here</a>
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Flayra
    Posted: Jun 4 2003, 07:15 PM

    There's definitely something wrong here, and I need to clarify my thoughts to fix it. I was in the airlock during the HA gassing-massacre of 060303, and there was definitely something wrong there.
    One problem is that marines don't have a way to counter spores currently, so I was thinking of making HAs immune to them. This makes perfect sense to me, and fits in to the tech tree properly (the HAs have their face protected by the armor too).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    nice idea, I always wondered why HA were such huge victims to the dangerous level 3 hive lerks. But anyway it's not my decision, since I can't test it or say it's a big problem in 1.1.
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  • matsomatso Master of Patches Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7000Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, Reinforced - Shadow, NS2 Community Developer
    Actually, the problem isn't really HA's being suspicable to gas - it's that Stomp is
    very powerful, and lerk gas takes an extreme advantage of it.

    Would be better to make stomp more balanced rather than making lerks useless against HA.
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  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    Instead of making HA immune (should the idea be implemented) to spores full stop, make it eat away the armor first and THEN the health. That should be balancing enough, but it should only apply to HA marines, not LA...
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  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I like the idea that was in the other post (the one linked by Emsee). Heavy armor would reduce the spore damage by some percent, and this percentage would go up with armor upgrades, but never actually reach 100%. For example, it could start at 30% reduction in damage, then go to 50%, 70%, and finally 90% (assuming there are still 3 armor upgrades).
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  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Moleculor+Feb 26 2002, 01:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Moleculor @ Feb 26 2002, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Things that have been discussed and will not be going into NS for gameplay or story reasons:</b>
    <ul>
    <li>Sniper rifles
    <li>Rocket Launchers
    <li><span style='color:red'>Gas Masks for combatting Spore Cloud</span>
    <li>Better melee weapons for marines
    </ul>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I know this is only some old posting guide lines (guide lines that are not followed to boot), but doesn't this mean that some of this stuff is more in the unlikely or maybe catagory? I personally love the idea, but I also don't want there to be a double standard.
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  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infected Marine+Jun 7 2003, 10:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Jun 7 2003, 10:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know this is only some old posting guide lines (guide lines that are not followed to boot), but doesn't this mean that some of this stuff is more in the unlikely or maybe catagory?  I personally love the idea, but I also don't want there to be a double standard. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, they are old guidelines and when Spores were Lerks 3rd Hive ability, marines weren't supposed to be able to counter them. Now Spores are slot2 weapon. Also making HA's counter Spores is not adding Gas masks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    No there is no double standard. Those are guidelines for SUGGESTIONS. Flayra does not suggest, he informs you of a decision he may or may not make.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MagiTek+Jun 6 2003, 11:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MagiTek @ Jun 6 2003, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Jun 6 2003, 08:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Jun 6 2003, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it's not gas but some corrosive spore thing that can sense the flesh inside the HA <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The spores don't attack a commander who's sitting in the chair. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    that's... totally different <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I suppose it's because spores only attack SOLDIERS and leave the commander alone. The commander is er... different D:
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  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    edited June 2003
    I guess the reason why it wasn't done in 1.04 is that spores are the lerks 3rd hive weapon. And it would be frustating to get a useless weapon <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    As it's now the spores are 2nd hive so no argueing on this topic.

    Grr dread was quicker...
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