air tank capacity changed.
WarViper
Texas Join Date: 2016-04-27 Member: 216062Members
Texas Join Date: 2016-04-27 Member: 216062Members
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They brought back stackable tanks.
Is the airtank slot still on the paperdoll ui?
yes but now the high capacity tank has been reduced by over 50%.
No airtank ui slot. Airtanks hold 30 O2. Big airtanks hold 60 O2. Airtanks stack.
After machine update:
Airtank ui slot. Airtanks hold 60 O2. Big airtanks hold 120 O2. Airtanks do not stack.
After Powernap update:
Airtank ui slot. Airtanks hold 30 O2. Big airtanks hold 60 O2. Airtanks stack.
What we want:
Airtank ui slot. Airtanks hold 60 O2. Big airtanks hold 120 O2. Airtanks stack.
Am I correct?
You can also make a re-breather that will extend your oxygen.
When you're deep or inside a wreck you're more likely to be scanning things and not using you're inventory.
I'd like a little more inventory space too but it's not that difficult to work around.
To all those who are upset - I'm assuming many if not all of you are new to Subnautica. When they implemented the paper doll tank slot and non-stacking tanks, there was a significant amount of complaining. Enough for them to reconsider the change.
Guilty as charged, but I am read up on SN's Trello, so I know of the card regarding this:
"As per latest discussion with Charlie and Obraxis: The oxygen tanks in the inventory should still add to the total oxygen available to the player. So both the tank in the equipment slot AND the "passive" tanks in the inventory should count.
The reason is simple: we want to make the life easier for those players who, for whatever reason, don't want to worry about oxygen so much.
The "excuse" why something passive in the inventory comes with some active effect is that there would be automatic swapping of tanks going on when the equipped tank is empty. Technically we don't really swap the tanks though. We just count the total oxygen and be done with it."
The fact that it was phrased "we want to make the life easier for those players who, for whatever reason, don't want to worry about oxygen so much" made me think we'd get both systems, considering the return of the old is a specific accommodation.
What I propose as what I think (I might be missing a secondary mechanic attribute?) is a fair middle ground is that the stacking values are kept for unequipped tanks and the not-stacking values for equipped tanks. Ie, you get 60 seconds with a regular air tank if equipped and only 30 if it's unequipped.
Truth be told, Devs are in a no-win scenario here.
Peoples complained
Peoples complains now
Peoples will complain in the future too
No matter what they do, leave it or change it, there will be people that'll bitch about it no matter what.
Personally im thankfull about the paperdoll tank slot they added. If i feel like i want more O2 for exploring a wreck for instance i just bring more airtanks with me for the trip and thats about it.
Using the Seaglide with fins like forever. Yes, it seems it depletes a bit faster now, but with the recharger absolutely no problem. Having one or 2 batteries in my inv while the others recharge. I think some are just overreacting here, similar to the o2 thread where so many are complaining now.
Considering it was the opposite before the patch, everyone whining for additional tanks (and me saying keep it as it is xD ), it`s just a bad joke, here and in the o2 thread.
DEAL WITH IT.
Problem is the Devs shouldn`t listen that much to all the whinethreads because you can never satisfy everyone.
I do hope my post conveyed that I fully understand the dev's dilemma. My proposal tries to find a balance that might satisfy both viewpoints based on the argument laid out on Trello as to why the air tank mechanic changed back. I don't know much about programming, but I think this would not be a difficult change. Nor gameplay-breaking.
Now I feel silly because that is obviously the much more logical and fun accommodation.
All in all, I haven't actually had any trouble adjusting to the change, so with a more thorough tank upgrade system things should be fine this way.
This. The fact of the matter is that stacking tanks is functionally equivalent to swapping tanks, but without the busywork. The end result is still that you have 3 or 5 or whatever tanks worth of air. Yes with swapping you'll probably "lose" a few seconds here or there because you're spending more time with the PDA open fiddling with your tanks, but not that much.
On a related subject ... is it just me, or do rebreathers not seem to actually be adding any extra breathing time?
Can't say what individual save files do, but the rebreather works for me. Just a few days ago I went into the JSC to get lithium and magnetite with an unupgraded Seamoth and it did make a difference how much time I had to gather and return whether I wore the radiation helmet or rebreather.
If you're carrying multiple tanks, you can't tell which tank has air in it. I just drowned, carrying only two tanks, because I tried four times to swap my tank and got the wrong tank four times out of four tries.
Rebreathers don't add extra breathing time unless you're deep. Normally as you go down, you'll notice the depth gauge go from white to yellow to red. As it does so, the rate at which you expend O2 increases. The rebreather stops this issue, but it doesn't do anything for you near the surface.
Edit: Those gills could maybe be limited in a way that you would have to stay still for them to refill your tanks or keep moving to gain air like some fish need to.
Redesigning to FORCE players to use stacking tanks to get the clearly intended air capacity is just giving in to people on the forums who HATE MY INVENTORY SPACE.