You did amazing Job Mendasp! Always loved and respected your work, I'm proud that I got the chance to play with you all these years .
It's too bad UWE could never gave their stubbornness a rest and truly worked with the amazing talents in this community. I really wished that Ns2 could have reached its full potential, at least made it half way thanks to your amazing work! Competitive play would never have lasted this long without your Spawn mod/NSL maps and NS2+. It was a big part that gave us this amazing experience of playing NS2.
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@Mendasp, you have been, and always will be, an extremely valuable member of this community. The value of your contributions is incalculable, and our thanks will never be enough.
I'm very sorry things were handled so poorly -- not just for you but for many in the CDT -- and you have every right to feel the way you do. We failed at communicating with you, and as a result, we've lost one of our most valuable community developers. I'm going to make sure that we work on our communications from now on, to keep this sort of thing from happening again.
[=Alex=]Join Date: 2008-12-25Member: 65866Members, Squad Five Blue
Thanks for all the work you have done for this game, my teacher, one of the inspiration sorse for me through the videos. Thanks for the greate combat map co_sava and let me remake for ns2:combat. You have done more then you'll ever know for this community and for me.
How about showing him his worth in numbers on his bank account?! ... I personally can't play the game anymore without NS2+ .... It and the Shine is a MENDATORY part of my server and NS2 itself for that matter. I don't like how UWE handles stuff right now and I REALLY hope Subnautica validates in Nubers the abandonment of NS2... Torn Banner are releasing an update in the near future for Chivalry cuz they know what thier bread and butter truly is. This is a DAMN shame and I really hope they appologize, put their wallet where thier mouth is and bring you back in! Taking down NS2+ would have been DEVASTATING to the community and I'm glad you didn't do it.
FFS guys (UWE)... remember who you are. Start working on NS3.. and cut the crap with a new engine.. License the Unreal 4 and be done with it.. focus on what you are BEST at... making dope ass gameplay!
So in the future relevant ppl (YouTubers), that could make NS3 more popular are not like "the graphics are shit", scaring off half of the potential new rookies. We (the community) gave it all to include these guys and spread the word and make Videos and promote to get NS2 on the throne of competitive gaming (where it belongs). STOP MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US! show us the love again you showed us weeks after release... Natural Selection is your legacy... not a half assed underwhater MMO with 12 h worth of content!
Thx for contributing so much time and passion to the game and community Mendasp!
Any gaming studio should be proud of such people that invest so much effort of their own, and in your case making the game enjoyable.
It's too bad UWE could never gave their stubbornness a rest and truly worked with the amazing talents in this community.
This has been one of the downfalls of NS, so many passionate and talented individuals and their visions have been rejected because they don't represent what UWE wants, and therefore have left the game. Mendasp was the last of those people, hats to you mendasp for sticking in it for so long.
Its obvious that the game can't represent everyone in the community, and every change can't be made, but some of the obvious fixes we saw later in NS could have been made much more earlier. It seems UWE are couple steps behind to realize what gamers nowadays want, and who to listen. Many of us have played NS from the start and lived by it, we know what works and what not, some things cant be understood if you don't actually play the game(s).
NS as it is today is the result of UWE's own attitude towards the game, is it because of lack of passion, resources or something else only UWE knows.
In the case of Mendasp it's again a huge mistake made by people in charge, but UWE had their inside vision once more.
Natural selection is still the best game ever made if someone asks me, this opinion could have been the same for many new gamers that entered NS.
If only UWE would sit down and think what is that the community and modern day gamers want, and not what they want themselves, and make the choices earlier than when its already to late.
I'm known for my awesome pictures, so I leave this to you Mendasp and UWE...
lets see what the future brings us(if anything at all)
IxianDenmarkJoin Date: 2014-03-16Member: 194783Members, Squad Five Blue
Mendasp, you made this game playable for me. All the small little features, however small and seemingly insignificant they seemed or big missing features from vanilla (such as teamdependent mousesensitivity), ready to be personalised with minimum effort, was and is a blessing. You empowered me and many others to play and experience the game as we wanted to. Problems? One message to you, and 5 minutes later the hotfix was out - Completely and utterly unheard of. Awesome.
It's a real shame you left us Mendasp...
Althought i didn't know you at all as everyone else on this forum does. Im just the new guy who spam on the forums... Mabey i am a forumhussy as @Yojimbo said though i still don't know what it is.
I wanna thank you for everything you've done for this game!
But as it all comes together i don't like that you're leaving so i don't awsome you're post (sad face)
Noor do i disaggre with you're actions and neither do i aggre with you're leaving so all i give you right now is silence....
Silence of a veteran who passed away.
Thank you for you're services i wish you the best.....
I can only allow you to leave if you continue to maintain NS2+, there is no way I'm taking over another mod for you.
All in all though, I will miss our random **** talking sessions.
Reading all those things over scares me in particular, it reminds me of how much I also had a hand in. The NSL lights being particularly amusing, I think you wrote it, I updated it, then you moved it into your mod, then I helped fit it into vanilla?.. I don't even remember anymore. I also reminds me of back when the competitive community was 'evil' and villainized by everyone, good times.
To me you always represented the best of us in a way - while I was happy to work on things behind the scenes, you always were out in front dealing with all the **** from people. I really don't understand how you were able to deal with everyone at times...
Regardless, you have earned whatever time far away from NS2 that you want. I promise to yell at you if I see you playing NS2 on steam.
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Mendasp, you have done a ridiculous amount of work. You could actually have a life now, but I doubt that will happen. I'll be excited to see your next project. I'll always think of you when I use the insult "Your parents are siblings", hahahahaha.
I was reading the other posts about the new things in motion. I was like : "Maybe some good can come out of this".
Then I read this. I'm like : Whoa that log! UWE couldn't start a NS2-"back in the game"-dev team worse than that. I mean that's just a bullet in the head for starter in terms of PR...
This scenario happened because every human being has a stomach. It's sad, and that's why I license everything as Non Commercial because I know the where are the biggest knifes. I guess I have some experience in the field.
I had a lot of suggestions for many things but no time before the last week. I'm reconsidering.
I already knew you did a lot. In fact the corner stone of this game (Tram/Veil/Summit trinity) is heavily in your debt.
I can understand the UWE choices. They do their own choices. But reading this makes me think it's something happened behind your back. Smells bad. I can't see a good ending in this.
@BeigeAlert : It should never happen in the first place. Not that it's the first time UWE do something like that. But also, it's about being fair.
I hope i'm not the only one who doesn't want to say goodbye and talk in the past tense.
I'm more interested in seeing if we can right the wrongs here. Between the community and UWE we should try to demonstrate how much his contributions are valued, and to apologize as much as possible (and then some).
Unless i'm missing something I think its more likely that this situation was just chronically mismanaged to shit rather than due to any contempt.
I understand the emotion. There is wrongdoing.. Hopefully you can get past this quick! If i ever meet you in real life whiskey is on me.
Find a great and rewarding new goal in your life. The knowledge and experience you have gained is permanently yours, and it's a positive power. Focus on that.
In business things like this happen all too often, and after some time you learn to roll with those punches. Because most times it's better to keep relations healthy, even when they drop a ball. Be careful when posting on the internet.
I dont know you Mendasp but I thank you a lot for all the work you did FOR FREE...
I also think you deserve a lot of respect and ATLEAST some res in your wallet even if you didnt aim for it...
come on UWE do something! more pressure! PUSH PUSH PUSH!
Thank you Mendasp for all your work on NS2+ and the vanilla game. Your mod was the reason I was still excited to play NS2. You basically gave us free updates between builds that gave us a much better experience which lead to a more enjoyable game. Imagine NS2 without alien vision choices. I don't want to. They weren't just updates. A lot of the time... I felt like a NS2+ update was like getting a new NS2 game (what you always wish the original game had). Thank you for making the game worth playing, and I was hoping there would be even more to come. Since there won't be at this point, I feel like UWE should have done more to keep you on. You were the link between the game and the players/fans. Thank you!
Let the future be said here and now. First, Blind will return. Then Reddogs child will Redpup will grow, and Reddog will have time to join us again. Then Mendasp will rise from a sea of low lights. At that point the planets will align, an event horizon will form and Half life 3: Natural Selection will come into existence.
Thank you for your work Mendasp. I await your return.
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I came out of hibernation to voice my appreciation for your work, it's regrettable that things went the way they did. I don't know any of the details, but reading your exempt, it's rough.
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It's hard to imagine a Natural Selection community without you. May your doors always rotate smoothly, Mendasp. It hurts to see you go and we all wish you the best in your future endeavors.
I've always been a big fan of mods. Oftentimes i've found that i like mods more than the original game. And i also owe a lot to the hard-working people of all these fantastic mods for another reason, as it was with them that i began what eventually would become my voice-over artist career. A craft that I've always felt very humble to be able to partake in.
Just like Complex mod made Homeworld 2 not just still playable today but so many times better, NS2+ gave the game renewed life and a way better experience for years for thousands of people. Your attention to detail is amazing and i would ask you out if you were a woman (or as queer as Jason). You may not have been paid for this great service, but know that you made a huge different for all the people who together have spent hundreds of thousands of hours enjoying a much better NS2 for far longer than they would have otherwise.
There has come and gone many silent heroes in the history of NS. And the brightest of them all, was Mendasp.
I am not one to read a lot of posts and posts even less but I have been around like most for a long time, during that time much has happend in ns2 but that peopel kept working in the shadows, slaving away in order to make our gaming experience a bit better every update that is why we are here. Ns2 would not be Ns2 today without the support of its community and peopel like you have always been the spearhead, rearly appriciated but always important.
For someone that was happy just playing the game paying little attention to the work behind the curtains, I can say I probatly will never truly understand how much effort been put into the game by some. So for all of us that have and are silently enjoying the benefits from that work for what's is worth, Thank you.
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It's too bad UWE could never gave their stubbornness a rest and truly worked with the amazing talents in this community. I really wished that Ns2 could have reached its full potential, at least made it half way thanks to your amazing work! Competitive play would never have lasted this long without your Spawn mod/NSL maps and NS2+. It was a big part that gave us this amazing experience of playing NS2.
Thank you for all your amazing work Mendasp!
Farewell.
I'm very sorry things were handled so poorly -- not just for you but for many in the CDT -- and you have every right to feel the way you do. We failed at communicating with you, and as a result, we've lost one of our most valuable community developers. I'm going to make sure that we work on our communications from now on, to keep this sort of thing from happening again.
Greetings from Bs.As. Argentina.
FFS guys (UWE)... remember who you are. Start working on NS3.. and cut the crap with a new engine.. License the Unreal 4 and be done with it.. focus on what you are BEST at... making dope ass gameplay!
So in the future relevant ppl (YouTubers), that could make NS3 more popular are not like "the graphics are shit", scaring off half of the potential new rookies. We (the community) gave it all to include these guys and spread the word and make Videos and promote to get NS2 on the throne of competitive gaming (where it belongs). STOP MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US! show us the love again you showed us weeks after release... Natural Selection is your legacy... not a half assed underwhater MMO with 12 h worth of content!
Come back to us.. we miss you ...
@mendasp AND UWE
-Hell, 3200 h into your Game, Host of one of the most popular Servers in NS2; Hellarious Basterds
I think you spelled the word in the big letters wrong, it is MENDASPORY.
Any gaming studio should be proud of such people that invest so much effort of their own, and in your case making the game enjoyable.
This has been one of the downfalls of NS, so many passionate and talented individuals and their visions have been rejected because they don't represent what UWE wants, and therefore have left the game. Mendasp was the last of those people, hats to you mendasp for sticking in it for so long.
Its obvious that the game can't represent everyone in the community, and every change can't be made, but some of the obvious fixes we saw later in NS could have been made much more earlier. It seems UWE are couple steps behind to realize what gamers nowadays want, and who to listen. Many of us have played NS from the start and lived by it, we know what works and what not, some things cant be understood if you don't actually play the game(s).
NS as it is today is the result of UWE's own attitude towards the game, is it because of lack of passion, resources or something else only UWE knows.
In the case of Mendasp it's again a huge mistake made by people in charge, but UWE had their inside vision once more.
Natural selection is still the best game ever made if someone asks me, this opinion could have been the same for many new gamers that entered NS.
If only UWE would sit down and think what is that the community and modern day gamers want, and not what they want themselves, and make the choices earlier than when its already to late.
I'm known for my awesome pictures, so I leave this to you Mendasp and UWE...
lets see what the future brings us(if anything at all)
Althought i didn't know you at all as everyone else on this forum does. Im just the new guy who spam on the forums... Mabey i am a forumhussy as @Yojimbo said though i still don't know what it is.
I wanna thank you for everything you've done for this game!
But as it all comes together i don't like that you're leaving so i don't awsome you're post (sad face)
Noor do i disaggre with you're actions and neither do i aggre with you're leaving so all i give you right now is silence....
Silence of a veteran who passed away.
Thank you for you're services i wish you the best.....
~Saffron_Baker
All in all though, I will miss our random **** talking sessions.
Reading all those things over scares me in particular, it reminds me of how much I also had a hand in. The NSL lights being particularly amusing, I think you wrote it, I updated it, then you moved it into your mod, then I helped fit it into vanilla?.. I don't even remember anymore. I also reminds me of back when the competitive community was 'evil' and villainized by everyone, good times.
To me you always represented the best of us in a way - while I was happy to work on things behind the scenes, you always were out in front dealing with all the **** from people. I really don't understand how you were able to deal with everyone at times...
Regardless, you have earned whatever time far away from NS2 that you want. I promise to yell at you if I see you playing NS2 on steam.
Then I read this. I'm like : Whoa that log! UWE couldn't start a NS2-"back in the game"-dev team worse than that. I mean that's just a bullet in the head for starter in terms of PR...
This scenario happened because every human being has a stomach. It's sad, and that's why I license everything as Non Commercial because I know the where are the biggest knifes. I guess I have some experience in the field.
I had a lot of suggestions for many things but no time before the last week. I'm reconsidering.
I already knew you did a lot. In fact the corner stone of this game (Tram/Veil/Summit trinity) is heavily in your debt.
I can understand the UWE choices. They do their own choices. But reading this makes me think it's something happened behind your back. Smells bad. I can't see a good ending in this.
@BeigeAlert : It should never happen in the first place. Not that it's the first time UWE do something like that. But also, it's about being fair.
I'm more interested in seeing if we can right the wrongs here. Between the community and UWE we should try to demonstrate how much his contributions are valued, and to apologize as much as possible (and then some).
Unless i'm missing something I think its more likely that this situation was just chronically mismanaged to shit rather than due to any contempt.
Find a great and rewarding new goal in your life. The knowledge and experience you have gained is permanently yours, and it's a positive power. Focus on that.
In business things like this happen all too often, and after some time you learn to roll with those punches. Because most times it's better to keep relations healthy, even when they drop a ball. Be careful when posting on the internet.
I can assure you that every time I play NS2 I remember how much time and work you have put into the game. We can't thank you enough for that
I also think you deserve a lot of respect and ATLEAST some res in your wallet even if you didnt aim for it...
come on UWE do something! more pressure! PUSH PUSH PUSH!
unusual circumstances vs unusual selection
Thank you for your work Mendasp. I await your return.
All the best Mr. Spaniard (medsap)!
Another shoutout from 2 years ago:
http://bit.ly/1SgrlHE
(watch 30 secs from there)
After alll this time he even put so much more into this game, I simply can't think of words anymore to express a "thank you" accordingly.
If someone puts up a crowdfunding, I throw some money in.
@Mendasp
My dear old friend, I wish you the best in your future.
I mentioned it on the previous page but Mendasp does have his own donation paypal link on his twitch page.
Mendasp twitch profile
I've always been a big fan of mods. Oftentimes i've found that i like mods more than the original game. And i also owe a lot to the hard-working people of all these fantastic mods for another reason, as it was with them that i began what eventually would become my voice-over artist career. A craft that I've always felt very humble to be able to partake in.
Just like Complex mod made Homeworld 2 not just still playable today but so many times better, NS2+ gave the game renewed life and a way better experience for years for thousands of people. Your attention to detail is amazing and i would ask you out if you were a woman (or as queer as Jason). You may not have been paid for this great service, but know that you made a huge different for all the people who together have spent hundreds of thousands of hours enjoying a much better NS2 for far longer than they would have otherwise.
There has come and gone many silent heroes in the history of NS. And the brightest of them all, was Mendasp.
Thank you so much!
For someone that was happy just playing the game paying little attention to the work behind the curtains, I can say I probatly will never truly understand how much effort been put into the game by some. So for all of us that have and are silently enjoying the benefits from that work for what's is worth, Thank you.