Censorship of Games
<div class="IPBDescription">...moved from Mapping forum</div>I have indeed read the mapping guidelines that follow the nstr 2.0, but yet I'd like to get an opinion from you...
In my map, I'm going for a rather standardized research station/military station for a first map.
As I understood it, the aliens are more of the predators, while the marines have to be cautious not to get seperated from the rest of their squad, lest they be molested alone and someplace dark...
So, are flickering lights, low ambient sounds and such effects really a big no-no in the maps? Or would the players tire too quickly of them?
-Minkur
In my map, I'm going for a rather standardized research station/military station for a first map.
As I understood it, the aliens are more of the predators, while the marines have to be cautious not to get seperated from the rest of their squad, lest they be molested alone and someplace dark...
So, are flickering lights, low ambient sounds and such effects really a big no-no in the maps? Or would the players tire too quickly of them?
-Minkur
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Basically, if you've seen it used in a movie to heighten 'the experience' and it ain't gore, use it.
i wanted to make a ghostcolony with bloody beds and bloodtracks into ventilation systems. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->
The government shouldn't ban anything from a game, anyway.
Whilst I am going way off topic.... I think this must be said...
An example of where censorship is appropriate would be with GTA3 in Australia. The makers were told that if they don't remove certain elements it would not be allowed on shelves. Of course the liberal people screamed "censorship is evil!" but is there really a need for kids to play a game which allows them have sex with prostitutes and then beat them up with a baseball bat to avoid having to pay? (which is what was removed for the australian version)
I know that is a far cry from trails of blood - but you can see my point can't you?
Now that I've read that, I realize I acted out of anger and haste and that would have been a jerk thing to post. I have no right to criticize their society.
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Im not saying that all games should include as much mass violence as possible, or even that appropriate measures should be put into place, but rather that these be accompanied by a greater understanding of what should be taught to allow children to differenciate ebtween right and wrong, real-life and games. Sure after a noteable number of years these may tend to become slighly mixed within a personality, but people should understand that games will do this.
I would rather have compolsory teaching to parents than have expressive media within a suitable content range for their audience banned because kids have might play it. People these days must face up to their own actions, it seem someone else is always to blame.
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Amen.
To put up Hanz' example, if a child has got GTA3, a game that's all about gangsters, violence and pitch black humor, I don't ask myself why the developers have dared to create something like this, I'm asking myself why the hell the parents allowed this software to get on that PC.
However, to put some things right, there is no 'censorship because of violence' here in Germany - it's called 'indication': If a game (or any other form of media) is said to be explicitely violent, to have sexistic or pornographic contents or is supposed to be able to harm the youth in another way, it's checked by the 'BPjS' ('Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Schriften', ask your German teacher to translate it;)). Should the BPjS decide that the game can do harm, it's indicated: Such games may not be advertised or selled to under 18 years olds (Yeah, right!<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->. Pretty much like the liquor laws in some parts of the US.
The only way to get a game consored is by getting politically extremistic contents in it. This makes sense in many cases, there was for example a case when some neonazis decided that producing and selling the game 'KZ-Manager' was a good idea, but as 'extremistic contents' may also mean 3rd realm flags, they've been censoring the english versions of RTCW and MOH, too.
Hell, is there something less fascistic than setting nazia**** on fire?
Having said this, I'll sign every petition against the BPjS. The people there have got no idea about how the community of a game looks (RTCW fan != nazi), they don't know how to judge a game, I doubt that they've ever understood the idea behind gaming, and, more important, they take the job of the parents without of asking for it, and this is simply against everything I ever read in a western constitution.
Although... They're about to indicate CS, so maybe we should wait a bit with abolishing them.
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For the other stuff - every kind of big red could of pixels is generally regarded as explicit violence and thus they would've been in danger of getting indicated if they hadn't changed it.
The dismembering is still in, BTW, you just gotta switch it on in the options.
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if the game is too bloody censore it by clicking on the option cant we atleast have the option of blood or no blood.
personally i think NS should be bloody its an alien vs humans game how many alien vs human game have u seen that doesn't involve a lot of blood hmmmmmm let me see 0!!!! THEY ALL HAVE BLOOD and not just a little A LOT!!!
damn right!
btw isn't it dangerous if stupid violent people think you respawn when you die? Why not lay down the whole HL community?
EDIT: Sweden is a liberal country where you can be naked on TV and play violent computergames without any censure at all. This doesn't mean we're more violent. We're generally quite respectful to eachother compared to some other countries that think censure can save their children.
you make it sound like germans are nazis.
Probly should have a option to have the violence (gore,dismemberment ect ect) so if someone wants it in or not they can just click it.
I remember someone saying Cartoon violence is differitn compared to violence in movies n so forth.. In all truth it isint.At least not to a little kid to be honest.So why baby them? I am 16 and I seen things at 6 that would probly scare people to death.My mom,when she was a live of corse.. Loved Horror Movies.I like them too and I watched them a loght with her.Of corse it might explain why I never have a non nightmare.I have had Nightmares every night since I can remember,its not as bad now.. Plus I learned how to controll my dreams for the most part.
But it is a little funny now that I think about it on how one of my friends died... His parents would not allow him to watch/see any violence,nore read about it.Heck if he heard a bad word once they would go insane almost.. He died right next to me.Thair was one of the local gangs driving by trying to kill this one kid that was on a rival gang and ended up killing my friend and wounding about 3 other people that day.I was lucky and ducked in time otherwise a bullet would have hit my head and I wouldent be here.
He had time to react but he did not know what was in thair hands nore what was happening to the other kids and why I shouted for everyone to duck.He just didint know the danger of what was happening.