The Guru Tournament

HughHugh CameramanSan Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
edited October 2012 in Competitive Play
<div class="IPBDescription">Aftermath Thread</div>46 games of NS2, 12 teams, three days, 6 hours of livecast, 1,270 peak viewers on the grand final.

Congratulations to Archaea for their win, and the entire NS2 community for an outstanding piece of competitive gaming.

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/vEph6.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

Thank you to RTSGuru.com and FPSGuru.com for their sponsorship and support, and Roccat for their generous prize donation.

Thank you Dillon and your awesome group of admins for you precise, timely and reliable administrative work behind the scenes.

Thank you to every player, and every team captain, for your timeliness, professionalism and flair. You should all be very proud. What you all did is the envy of many a larger game, and no doubt many competitive communities to. You are building a wonderful environment in which people can play the game they love in front of incredibly large audiences.

Now the question is... Who will knock Archaea off their perch? ;)
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  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    next weekend tournament, here we go!

    Those matches were fun. I watched replays :P especially that 40 min game with nexzil & inversion.
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    yes Blink that game will go down as one of the best ever!
  • ShakerShaker Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9582Members, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2012
    So sad I missed the games. Looks like it was a fun tournament =[

    Minus the 2 hive 7 minutes onos games...
  • bHackbHack Join Date: 2010-03-23 Member: 71059Members
    Any ways of seeing clan's lineup?
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1991038:date=Oct 13 2012, 07:01 PM:name=bHack)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bHack @ Oct 13 2012, 07:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991038"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Any ways of seeing clan's lineup?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only by watching the matches. The recordings are located across several locations

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/naturalselection2hd" target="_blank">Youtube - NS2HD</a>
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Wasabi0n3" target="_blank">Youtube - Wasabione</a>
    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2" target="_blank">Twitch - NS2</a>
    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/blindns2" target="_blank">Twitch - Blind</a>
    <a href="http://www.twitch.tv/rtsguru" target="_blank">Twitch - RTSGuru</a>
  • Squirreli_Squirreli_ Join Date: 2012-04-25 Member: 151046Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1991038:date=Oct 14 2012, 05:01 AM:name=bHack)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bHack @ Oct 14 2012, 05:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991038"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Any ways of seeing clan's lineup?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <u>Exertus</u>: Laama, TrC, Zups, Elmo, Nadyli, Squirreli
  • WildChickenWildChicken Join Date: 2004-08-25 Member: 30891Members, Constellation
    Hg: T0by, Watchful|Crane, era, Crille, SanCo, Wild|Chicken
  • ArcL!ghtArcL!ght Join Date: 2007-11-27 Member: 63031Members, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester
    Again thank you for such a fast reply if I could do my own casts!
  • carnage-wp-carnage-wp- Join Date: 2012-10-13 Member: 162250Members, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    Great job guys, it was a pleasure to watch. Great casting as always.
  • BicsumBicsum Join Date: 2012-02-27 Member: 147596Members, Reinforced - Gold
    edited October 2012
    We had fun, so thanks for organizing this.

    HBZ: de Para, Lebowski, 3del, DeadManWalking, Floodinator, Bicsum, (+ Chuck_Norris on saturday)
  • farskefarske Join Date: 2012-10-14 Member: 162301Members
    edited October 2012
    Thank you from RTSGuru and FPSGuru and thank you to Roccat.

    Thank you to Hugh and Wasabione for casting, bringing us in and providing us with a cracking start. Thank you 100x over for you guys. All you guys, without your interest, dedication, love and play we'd not have teams and to watch you guys play was simply put: Amazing.

    From casting those few games in our "wtf is NS2" style manner taught me much, took my heart and I intend to continue with NS2 and casting.

    Congratulations to Archaea!!
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    I officially have no voice left, but wow... Been watching back over some of the games and what a day! ArcLight, hit me up on steam again I think I can get you in to do some recordings for Logitech. Sorry we just had so many people and so few games for Saturday to have too many people on the server casting and recording... I mean the final had 6 casters... WOW....
  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    And a tourney next week, right? We could just skip the frills and just say arc wins. :)
  • supsusupsu Join Date: 2012-04-24 Member: 151023Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1991485:date=Oct 15 2012, 03:43 AM:name=SabaHell)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SabaHell @ Oct 15 2012, 03:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991485"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And a tourney next week, right? We could just skip the frills and just say arc wins. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Gooby plz
  • havok?havok? Join Date: 2012-05-22 Member: 152462Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1991643:date=Oct 15 2012, 07:28 AM:name=supsu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (supsu @ Oct 15 2012, 07:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991643"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Gooby plz<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LQUa5zwf1T8/TmCDg0Ru-GI/AAAAAAAAEuk/F6n7EsBfLkY/s320/Facebook%20like%20button%20chrome%20extension.jpeg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Arc practices a lot and winning is a reward for their efforts. There were some great games this weekend, but any team can be beaten its just a matter of how and when...
  • LocklearLocklear [nexzil]kerrigan Join Date: 2012-05-01 Member: 151403Members, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1991774:date=Oct 15 2012, 08:08 AM:name=WasabiOne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WasabiOne @ Oct 15 2012, 08:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991774"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fana and Tane practiced a lot and winning is a reward for their efforts. There were some great games this weekend, but they can be beaten its just a matter of how and when...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    :3

    Challenge accepted.
  • {GGs} Chicken{GGs} Chicken Join Date: 2011-11-22 Member: 134663Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1991774:date=Oct 15 2012, 09:08 AM:name=WasabiOne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WasabiOne @ Oct 15 2012, 09:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991774"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Arc practices a lot and winning is a reward for their efforts. There were some great games this weekend, but any team can be beaten its just a matter of how and when...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Not really. If their team play is good enough, then you have to outskill them. Currently no team besides inversion even comes remotely close to the skill gap between ARC. This is disregarding bad game mechanics that lead to victory of course, of which NS2 has a good chunk.
  • TrCTrC Join Date: 2008-11-30 Member: 65612Members
    Inversion would be great if they played a bit more together and had someone decent to train against in the US side.
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=1991912:date=Oct 15 2012, 01:44 PM:name=TrC)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TrC @ Oct 15 2012, 01:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1991912"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Inversion would be great if they played a bit more together and had someone decent to train against in the US side.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    This is the unfortunate truth, and why you probably won't see Inversion improving a whole lot in the near future. The NA competitive scene is d-e-d dead. We can't really scrim before 6-7 EST, and by that time the only opponent to play is often a very sleepy nexzil who does not play the quality games I know they are capable of at those times. In terms of experience/team play we are probably the greenest team out there by several magnitudes, I can count on one hand the number of quality practice games we've had in the past 2 months.


    There is just no one to practice against in the NA because no one plays this game in the NA. So we just kind of get screwed in this respect. :|
  • KasperleKasperle Join Date: 2004-09-29 Member: 31990Members
    First match between inversion and nexzil was awesome, like the ensl night cup final between nxzl and arc. I was very dissapointed by the final though.

    I am wondering why nobody has yet mentioned, that a lot of decent information about this tournament were missing. No tournament website, no livestream the first day.
    I had to message different people, casters and others, to find out what is going on ... or why there was no livestream on friday.

    Hugh did a great job in organizing a sponsor and i expecially liked the insight from the rts/fpsguru guys. I would really like to see/hear them some more on the liverstreams.
    But that doesnt mean, that the organizer stand behind criticism.

    +Hughs and wasabis castings ( as allways )
    +special guests
    +sponsoring

    -no central tournament website with all essential information
    -no livestreams the first day
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    As always thank you for your feedback...

    Well to be honest there was no central website cause I simply ran out of time... We had spoken with all the team captains and had many admins standing by with the rules and such... The bracket was publicly available but I forgot to post the link. Also if you heard me Sunday night... I was well dead... actually beyond dead I could barely speak. Friday and Saturday Casting and admining and all the other stuff too, was just too much + live streaming adds a lot of pressure to the players and casters and can be difficult too.

    You can check out <a href="http://youtube.com/wasabi0n3" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/wasabi0n3</a> for a lot of the matches that happened on Friday and I believe some were uploaded to ns2hd as well...

    The Logitech event this weekend will be much smaller and a lot easier to manager, but we hope to have some special news for you folks in the next two days that should help with these events in the future.
  • KasperleKasperle Join Date: 2004-09-29 Member: 31990Members
    Wasabi, can u understand me, when i tell u, that i was really really upset when i saw two casters online ... able to livestream the first matches ... but no livestream anywhere.
    I was really angry that day.

    It was the biggest tournament we had yet. And we missed a lot of it. Recordings are not the same, because i would allready know the result.

    Despite the prizes, it was one of the mediocre tournaments i have yet experienced. U have the resources, u can invite some people from the community to cast the first matches and still failed to do so.

    U are rushing the tournaments, thats yours and hughs problem. Hugh is allways telling us, that the community is a big part of the game, but u failed at least at one day (friday) to support that claim.

    I know that most of the community casters would have liked to stream the first matches, as i would have liked to see these matches...

    Plz dont do that ever again...
  • swalkswalk Say hello to my little friend. Join Date: 2011-01-20 Member: 78384Members, Squad Five Blue
    Gotta agree with Kasperle here.
    Even though wasabi and hugh would not have been able to stream friday.
    Other casters was standing by, and have been trying to contact you for over a week.
    Both Ryne and Arclight comes to mind.
    Please do not exclude ANY caster from ANY tournament, or cup. The more the merrier. More promotion for ns2.
  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Needs websites for this next beta tourny.

    the tournament was kinda sloppy organized. But hopefully it gets better as the time goes.
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1992102:date=Oct 16 2012, 01:15 PM:name=Kasperle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kasperle @ Oct 16 2012, 01:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992102"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Plz dont do that ever again...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Please don't ever make such a blase post for feedback ever again. Your tone and argument is incredibly offensive, as if you think that somehow the amount of casting done in the Guru Tournament was a active <i>choice</i> made by me or anyone else involved.

    You could have come in here and said 'I really wish there were more resources available, because I would love to see more of these games. It's a shame that Friday games were missed.' That's valid. Hell, I feel that way to. A post like that would focus attention on everyone's desire for more live NS2 play. It would be <i>constructive criticism</i>.

    But you didn't, your post doesn't, and instead of doing any of that you've induced my absolute disdain for your opinion.

    <!--quoteo(post=1992124:date=Oct 16 2012, 02:43 PM:name=swalk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (swalk @ Oct 16 2012, 02:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1992124"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Please do not exclude ANY caster from ANY tournament, or cup. The more the merrier. More promotion for ns2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have no idea why you are posting this. Post it in a thread about a tournament that has excluded casters. Don't post it in a thread about a tournament that hasn't. Otherwise, in true forum nature, people will read this thread and think I did.
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Streaming was not the issue folks... As you will notice every game I admin'd on I recorded and posted... there were other factors in play. as to Blinks comments, I take serious issue with you saying this was sloppy, I thought all the teams and admins were amazing, we stuck to our schedule and everything went of fantastic, great job to all!
  • ScrajmScrajm Join Date: 2011-10-17 Member: 127859Members
    I really wish there were more resources available, because I would love to see more of these games. It's a shame that Friday games were missed. I really do. These weekend tournaments is a blast, and I love em!

    Now, give me moar! And info about logitech this weekend would be great too! It feels like we should have brackets soon so we know which maps we need to start practice.
  • WasabiOneWasabiOne Co-Lead NS2 CDT Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104623Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Scrajm, check your email.... brackets are out... Same rules as before just modified slighty for the new format...
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    edited October 2012
    Hugh I think your post is too harsh on Kasperle. In the post before that he said

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hugh did a great job in organizing a sponsor and i expecially liked the insight from the rts/fpsguru guys. I would really like to see/hear them some more on the liverstreams.
    But that doesnt mean, that the organizer stand behind criticism.

    +Hughs and wasabis castings ( as allways )
    +special guests
    +sponsoring<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    He's obviously a big fan of the streams and didn't make any personal attack so in return I think you could be more sympathetic.

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/x9CkU.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/8TPUh.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    OK back on topic...

    ...I'd give the tournament an 8/10

    -1 for not covering early matches which confused me
    -1 for sound level issues which is funny when we're all shouting in the chat but also kinda distracting
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