Natural Selection

JamesK89JamesK89 Join Date: 2011-10-25 Member: 129381Members
in NS2 General Discussion
I've been on the fence about getting the NS2 Beta (Yes, I know, it's a beta but I'm that kind of guy; watching Minecraft grow up was fun) and I wanted to fire up NS1 and play some hardcore nostalgic action but it seems NS1 has reached a very low population, so have most players moved over to NS2?

If I get NS2 I'd like to know if there is a significant player base?

Thanks!
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    As in when NS was out for a while and you had like 500+ players constantly on a server each day?
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  • JamesK89JamesK89 Join Date: 2011-10-25 Member: 129381Members
    Well like back in the day when NS1 had a handful of servers with at least 15-25 players each for most of the day.
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    This is a screenshot as of 7PM New York time, I have just taken it.

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/Y4HTM.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • JamesK89JamesK89 Join Date: 2011-10-25 Member: 129381Members
    Hmm.. looks as bad as NS1. Whatever happened to the glorious community that I fondly remember? They all must be busy playing crappy games like Call of Duty.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well the awesome life of a beta player is play a few games. Bug report. Nitpick. And take a break to wait for the next patch.
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  • SkieSkie Skulk Progenitor Join Date: 2003-10-18 Member: 21766Members, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow
    No doubt will you find someone to play with every day. Just not a whole lot of servers to choose from yet.
    There isn't that much complexity to the game yet, but some big content patches are coming soon.
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  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1882043:date=Oct 25 2011, 11:17 PM:name=JamesK89)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JamesK89 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882043"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm.. looks as bad as NS1. Whatever happened to the glorious community that I fondly remember? They all must be busy playing crappy games like Call of Duty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The community is still there, but due to performance and balance issues, many are waiting for the game to get further along before jumping in and playing regularly. This is not a typical beta release of a mostly finished product that many companies release to the public as a PR move, this is an ever changing and improving work in progress, that some people are enjoying participating in.

    We also are not actively trying to build widespread awareness of the game just yet, as we want to wait until its closer to finish before we really kick into gear with the PR and marketing, and start giving demos to the press, etc. Once the game is mostly feature complete, the balance and stalemates are ironed out, it is running better on a wider range of systems, and we are doing more to promote the game, there should be a noticeable increase in people playing the NS2.

    --Cory
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  • WizardHUNWizardHUN Join Date: 2011-10-23 Member: 128903Members
    Dont hesitate, jump in, NS2 will kick ass:)
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    If you have a super fast monster of an OCd PC, you wont run into performance issues (4.5GHz+), if you have a mic and get along with people you will be able to find people to play with constatantly.
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  • snooopssnooops Germany Join Date: 2008-12-08 Member: 65702Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1882043:date=Oct 26 2011, 12:17 AM:name=JamesK89)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JamesK89 @ Oct 26 2011, 12:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882043"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm.. looks as bad as NS1. Whatever happened to the glorious community that I fondly remember? They all must be busy playing crappy games like Call of Duty.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The Community now is just about a handfull people who like to make love with UWE in their own dreams and are not able to get critique.
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  • nUfl0wnUfl0w Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42412Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882101:date=Oct 26 2011, 02:43 AM:name=snooops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (snooops @ Oct 26 2011, 02:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882101"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Community now is just about a handfull people who like to make love with UWE in their own dreams and are not able to get critique.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    On your photo you look way to old for these kind of immautre articulations. I think your mum would be really disappointed if she knew about your bad manners...
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  • snooopssnooops Germany Join Date: 2008-12-08 Member: 65702Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1882104:date=Oct 26 2011, 09:06 AM:name=nUfl0w)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nUfl0w @ Oct 26 2011, 09:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882104"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->On your photo you look way to old for these kind of immautre articulations. I think your mum would be really disappointed if she knew about your bad manners...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Thx :P
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  • nUfl0wnUfl0w Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42412Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882105:date=Oct 26 2011, 03:11 AM:name=snooops)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (snooops @ Oct 26 2011, 03:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882105"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thx :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You are welcome. :)
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  • ShalfaShalfa Join Date: 2011-10-19 Member: 128261Members
    There's always a full server so it doesn't bother me that much there's not many playing it (by the way it's still beta, When It will be released on steam they'll get some merchandising)
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  • JamesK89JamesK89 Join Date: 2011-10-25 Member: 129381Members
    edited October 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1882097:date=Oct 26 2011, 01:54 AM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Oct 26 2011, 01:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882097"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you have a super fast monster of an OCd PC, you wont run into performance issues (4.5GHz+), if you have a mic and get along with people you will be able to find people to play with constatantly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    My system specs:
    2.8 GHz AMD Phenom II 920
    8GB DDR2 800 Memory
    2x 1TB Samsung 7200 RPM SATA HDD's running in RAID-1
    ATi Radeon HD 4870 1GB GDDR5*
    Logitech G930 Headset

    If there is a server with a good amount of people usually playing then I'd be more convinced to get it and I understand that this is beta in the truest sense; I'm running Firefox straight from the mercurial repository compiled by myself.

    *I might be getting a pair of Radeon 6870's pretty soon to run in crossfire.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Wouldn't your CPU and memory speeds just bottleneck the full potential of those HD6870's though...
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    At least his game will look nicer at the same fps he has currently. As my cpu bottleneck doesn't really care about my graphics level. It only changes how much stuttering I get.
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  • JamesK89JamesK89 Join Date: 2011-10-25 Member: 129381Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882188:date=Oct 26 2011, 01:53 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Oct 26 2011, 01:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882188"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wouldn't your CPU and memory speeds just bottleneck the full potential of those HD6870's though...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Probably more-so the memory. The CPU is a quad core so if NS2 is multithreaded (which I'm sure it is) then I should have a decent time.
    As for the GPU's the PCI Express 2.x bus is more then fast enough if enough data remains on the onboard VRAM so if the NS2 dev's avoid enough CPU-GPU transfers (e.g. loading a vertex buffer or a pixel buffer and reading data) then I should be good.
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882188:date=Oct 26 2011, 07:53 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Oct 26 2011, 07:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882188"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wouldn't your CPU and memory speeds just bottleneck the full potential of those HD6870's though...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    CPU. yes.

    Ram? Not so. Performance boost from DDR2 - DDR3 on people with AM2/3 boards is 3-5%, which as we all know isn't the biggest difference in the world. Probably around 3-5 FPS. So not a bottleneck there.
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  • RichardRahlRichardRahl Join Date: 2011-06-15 Member: 104594Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882199:date=Oct 26 2011, 04:19 PM:name=JamesK89)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JamesK89 @ Oct 26 2011, 04:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882199"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Probably more-so the memory. The CPU is a quad core so if NS2 is multithreaded (which I'm sure it is)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Which it's not at the moment.
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  • Heroman117Heroman117 Join Date: 2010-07-28 Member: 73268Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882231:date=Oct 26 2011, 04:41 PM:name=RichardRahl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RichardRahl @ Oct 26 2011, 04:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882231"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Which it's not at the moment.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    NS2 actually has had multi-threading since at least <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/2011/1/ns2_build_162_released" target="_blank">build 162</a>, possibly even since the <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=114548&view=findpost&p=1867629" target="_blank">alpha</a>
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  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1882238:date=Oct 26 2011, 07:05 PM:name=Heroman117)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heroman117 @ Oct 26 2011, 07:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1882238"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS2 actually has had multi-threading since at least <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/2011/1/ns2_build_162_released" target="_blank">build 162</a>, possibly even since the <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=114548&view=findpost&p=1867629" target="_blank">alpha</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    From what I understand multi-threading support is pretty primitive, and is pretty low on UWE's priority list ATM. They don't seem to think it'll help optimize the game enough to justify doing it right now, especially since so many of the game's systems are being redesigned or haven't even been added yet. That's my perception of it anyways, correct me if I'm wrong devs
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