Do those with the standard edition still get alpha?

HozartisHozartis Join Date: 2009-09-01 Member: 68668Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Or are we out of luck?</div>Since the alpha is coming soon

<b>NS2 Standard Edition</b>

<i>Access to beta and tools</i>

but not

<b>NS2 Special Edition</b>

<i>First access to <u>alpha</u>, beta, and tools</i>

Since there hasn't been much talk about it, I want to know if Unknown Worlds will enforce the above. Once the alpha comes out, if I can throw out $20 and play it, then I will, but if not, I'll keep on waiting until the beta.
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  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    I believe the universal understanding is that Special Edition pre-orders get Alpha access while Regular Edition pre-orders do not. They do however get access to the Beta.

    You can upgrade your edition for an additional $20 dollars by e-mailing UWE.
  • Draco_2kDraco_2k Evil Genius Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69546Members
    You read correctly, it's SE-only.

    If you're hoping for demo of the game or some-such, that definitely won't be it. Beta should be much closer to playable.
  • RazorRazor Join Date: 2010-02-23 Member: 70695Members
    edited February 2010
    So if I made maps for NS2 I couldn't even test them until I got beta access? Pff what is the point to upgrade now.. theres potentially 9k in line in front of me.
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    When is the alpha going to be sent out; in a day; weeks, ... ? Just got get an idea.

    Thanks.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1755625:date=Feb 26 2010, 07:30 PM:name=Plasma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Plasma @ Feb 26 2010, 07:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755625"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When is the alpha going to be sent out; in a day; weeks, ... ? Just got get an idea.

    Thanks.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    When it's ready.
  • noncomposmentisnoncomposmentis Join Date: 2004-11-13 Member: 32773Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755624:date=Feb 26 2010, 05:25 PM:name=Razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razor @ Feb 26 2010, 05:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755624"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So if I made maps for NS2 I couldn't even test them until I got beta access? Pff what is the point to upgrade now.. theres potentially 9k in line in front of me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You could potentially give it to alpha testers. I mean I can't really see anything blocking that route, that is if you really don't want to spend 20 more bucks.
  • cmc5788cmc5788 Join Date: 2009-10-06 Member: 68959Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755596:date=Feb 26 2010, 05:08 PM:name=Draco_2k)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Draco_2k @ Feb 26 2010, 05:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755596"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You read correctly, it's SE-only.

    If you're hoping for demo of the game or some-such, that definitely won't be it. Beta should be much closer to playable.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Alphas are by definitionl "playable," just far from finished.
  • HozartisHozartis Join Date: 2009-09-01 Member: 68668Members
    GG then.

    Mass Effect 2 here I come!
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755624:date=Feb 27 2010, 10:25 AM:name=Razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razor @ Feb 27 2010, 10:25 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755624"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So if I made maps for NS2 I couldn't even test them until I got beta access? Pff what is the point to upgrade now.. theres potentially 9k in line in front of me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    think of how appreciative UWE will be from the extra money, if everyone did this then the game would be even better, and maybe out even faster
  • whoppaXXLwhoppaXXL Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58298Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    And soon the servers will be full with the elite, the elite black armored marine. No greenhorns anywhere.
  • GregzenegairGregzenegair Join Date: 2009-06-26 Member: 67944Members
    edited February 2010
    And the rare armor will be the Green one :p
  • CrispixCrispix Join Date: 2007-01-10 Member: 59543Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'm pretty sure SE purchasers will have the ability to switch between black and green armor.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    You're out of luck.
  • WunschkindWunschkind Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70658Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755645:date=Feb 27 2010, 02:27 AM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ Feb 27 2010, 02:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755645"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Alphas are by definitionl "playable," just far from finished.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...which does not necessarily have to be "enjoyable". It might/could/will be crashing every 5 minutes (freezing your whole PC, just so that you can see that nice Windows Logon screen more often), marines win all the time but when one update disables commander mode for the next week, skulks get stuck at every corner...

    I hope it's not that bad, and I don't expect it to be. I guess it's at least good enough for running around and polishing your own map so that it's ready when the beta arrives. :)
  • KarrdeKarrde Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16264Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755754:date=Feb 27 2010, 04:23 AM:name=Gregzenegair)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gregzenegair @ Feb 27 2010, 04:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755754"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And the rare armor will be the Green one :p<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And we'll all point and laugh at the rare person who didn't back UWE early :P
  • SekerSeker Join Date: 2007-03-06 Member: 60259Members
    I think that after ns2 is finally released and the first 2-3 mods are incoming more "mainstream" users will come and we will (hopefully) get a rush of green's :P
  • RazorRazor Join Date: 2010-02-23 Member: 70695Members
    Forum activity should have at least some to do with when you get in the alpha or beta test. I just know theres going to be that large chunk of people that get immediately turned off by any amount of bugs or problems and discard or cancel the game regardless of it being in the alpha or beta.
  • DeadzoneDeadzone Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17911Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1755963:date=Feb 27 2010, 10:48 PM:name=Razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razor @ Feb 27 2010, 10:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755963"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Forum activity should have at least some to do with when you get in the alpha or beta test. I just know theres going to be that large chunk of people that get immediately turned off by any amount of bugs or problems and discard or cancel the game regardless of it being in the alpha or beta.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm sorry, all I heard there was "I want free stuff."

    You're probably right, there will be a lot of people making premature decisions like that thinking alpha/beta conditions = the finished product. I also guarantee that by keeping alpha limited to people willing to put money down, 99% of those people who would jump to conclusions are going to be held back till a better version of the game is out. Dunno about you, but I didn't pay for the SE to get alpha access - access to an alpha isn't worth $20. I paid because I loved NS1 and NS2 looks good.
  • RazorRazor Join Date: 2010-02-23 Member: 70695Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755982:date=Feb 28 2010, 12:57 AM:name=Deadzone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deadzone @ Feb 28 2010, 12:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755982"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm sorry, all I heard there was "I want free stuff."

    You're probably right, there will be a lot of people making premature decisions like that thinking alpha/beta conditions = the finished product. I also guarantee that by keeping alpha limited to people willing to put money down, 99% of those people who would jump to conclusions are going to be held back till a better version of the game is out. Dunno about you, but I didn't pay for the SE to get alpha access - access to an alpha isn't worth $20. I paid because I loved NS1 and NS2 looks good.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And I don't know about you but I don't make rude assumptions based on reading a single post without getting the larger picture of what someone is trying to say. I pre-ordered the standard version of the game without knowing there was a SE of it. I bought it not because I simply loved the ns1. I want to support UW as a small indy company and I want to have a playable copy of the game so that I test the maps I make which could in turn help them. So is that all you are going to do? toss them some money

    FFS I feel like I'm a dilemma that probably isn't even there. If I do upgrade to SE is there a change I can use the engine soon after alpha release? There can't be that many that have the SE pre-order, right?
  • ThaTha Join Date: 2009-06-05 Member: 67694Members
    actually about 1-2 weeks after ns2 was avaialable for prepurchase there was a blog telling us 95% of sales were special edition.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited February 2010
    I want ask something,on the pre-order site:
    NS2
    Standard Edition
    $19.95

    and

    NS2
    Special Edition
    $39.95

    So did cost the standard edition $19.95 and the Special edition $39.95?
    Or do those with the special edition pay only $19.95?, Or are we out of luck?
  • FortuneFortune Join Date: 2009-04-27 Member: 67290Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1755994:date=Feb 28 2010, 07:43 AM:name=Razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razor @ Feb 28 2010, 07:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I pre-ordered the standard version of the game without knowing there was a SE of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    How did you not know? They literally offer both versions side by side with comparisons at the ns2 preorder site, the special edition is even more eye catching than the standard edition thanks to the use of orange.

    <a href="http://www.naturalselection2.com/buy" target="_blank">http://www.naturalselection2.com/buy</a>
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1755996:date=Feb 28 2010, 02:52 AM:name=Tha)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tha @ Feb 28 2010, 02:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755996"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->actually about 1-2 weeks after ns2 was avaialable for prepurchase there was a blog telling us 95% of sales were special edition.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that's because even today it's only really the hardcore NS fans that are willing to pre-order at all on so little information. Hell, there are still those out there on the rest of the interwebs who suspect NS2 is vaporware. I think it's not really going to take off until it lands on Steam.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I'm somewhat confused.

    It's written:
    -standard edition: beta, tools and the game.
    -special edition: alpha, black armor, + beta, tools and the game

    Why would you expect standard edition to have alpha?
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1756071:date=Feb 28 2010, 11:31 AM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cereal_KillR @ Feb 28 2010, 11:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1756071"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm somewhat confused.

    It's written:
    -standard edition: beta, tools and the game.
    -special edition: alpha, black armor, + beta, tools and the game

    Why would you expect standard edition to have alpha?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Maybe because (just a guess) only about 100 people got the standard edition, and a million got the special. But it doesn't matter because NS2 alpha isn't coming out till next year. Or else it's going to be really limited (since we didn't see any marine weapon reveals or heavies or jetpacks... the aliens will just have to play with themselves).
  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1756079:date=Feb 28 2010, 12:23 PM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Feb 28 2010, 12:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1756079"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe because (just a guess) only about 100 people got the standard edition, and a million got the special. But it doesn't matter because NS2 alpha isn't coming out till next year. Or else it's going to be really limited (since we didn't see any marine weapon reveals or heavies or jetpacks... the aliens will just have to play with themselves).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course it's going to be really limited, otherwise it wouldn't be an alpha. Not sure why you assume that anything that hasn't been revealed isn't in yet though.
  • CallMessiahCallMessiah Join Date: 2002-06-24 Member: 813Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1755994:date=Feb 28 2010, 08:43 AM:name=Razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razor @ Feb 28 2010, 08:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1755994"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->FFS I feel like I'm a dilemma that probably isn't even there. If I do upgrade to SE is there a change I can use the engine soon after alpha release? There can't be that many that have the SE pre-order, right?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If I didn't miss an announcement stating otherwise, you are actually in a non-existant dilemma for the following reason: Access to the Alpha is given to all who pre-ordered the Special Edition at the same time.
    What you're probably getting confused is the engine test they announced in the last update blog. The engine test will be given out by order of pre-order date to those who ordered the Special Edition. This will happen before the Alpha comes out. The engine test perhaps won't even be able to run your own maps, so you won't miss anything if you don't get it because you upgrade to Special Edition only now.
    You will still get access to the Alpha at the same time as everyone else who pre-ordered the Special Edition if you upgrade now.
  • HozartisHozartis Join Date: 2009-09-01 Member: 68668Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1756079:date=Feb 28 2010, 12:23 PM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Feb 28 2010, 12:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1756079"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Maybe because (just a guess) only about 100 people got the standard edition, and a million got the special.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Bingo.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    That still doesn't make sense. It's written pretty clearly; you can't expect them to say "well only 5% of pre-orders are standard ed. Let's give them the same stuff as those who paid twice as much"
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1756128:date=Feb 28 2010, 04:44 PM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cereal_KillR @ Feb 28 2010, 04:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1756128"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That still doesn't make sense. It's written pretty clearly; you can't expect them to say "well only 5% of pre-orders are standard ed. Let's give them the same stuff as those who paid twice as much"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Makes even less sense that so many pre-ordered the special edition, that only in the order that you pre-ordered are you considered eligible for special stuff :P
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