NS2 on a Mac and System Requirements?

FlipsterFlipster Join Date: 2009-02-18 Member: 66469Members
edited June 2009 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">I know someone made one about Linux too.</div>I know someone else already made a post about Linux, but I want to get an iMac for a computer this year. It would be awesome to not have to download Windows in it to play it. I'm not sure if they would do this, I saw there article on it saying they would, but how much longer would Mac users have to wait to buy it? Also, what are the system requirements for this game going to be? I'm not that good with system requirements, so what would be the minimum and maximum requirements for this game?

Example: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
ATI Radeon 2600 PRO
Speakers
Screen
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    At this point no specific work has been done on the Mac or Linux versions so I assume it won't be coming out soon after the PC version (if at all, it's just a dream right now). The Mac specs, if it does come to mac, will likely be similar to the PC ones: A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card for the minimum.
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited June 2009
    From the FAQ:

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, mouse, keyboard and of course, an internet connection. We are working hard to make sure NS2 runs well on average hardware without having to upgrade your machine!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <a href="http://www.naturalselection2.com/faq" target="_blank">http://www.naturalselection2.com/faq</a>

    These are low system requirements for any modern game. They are looking to possibly port the game over to MAC/Linux down the road, but I am imaging it won't be for some time. You will likely have to install Windows on your MAC if you want to play it when its released.



    EDIT: ahh Comprox beat me to it :(
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  • FlipsterFlipster Join Date: 2009-02-18 Member: 66469Members
    thank you guys, but what does that mean? what is a direct x 9 card?
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Straight from the product webpage:
    <a href="http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd2600/radeonhd2600pro/index.html" target="_blank">http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd2600/r...0pro/index.html</a>

    Your card you listed is a DirectX 10 card, which is better than DirectX 9 and will easily work with it.
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  • badtripbadtrip Join Date: 2008-07-24 Member: 64689Members
    edited June 2009
    A video card that supports shader model 2.0 meaning a Nvidia fx 5xxx or better. I don't know ATI so someone else will have to answer that one...

    EDIT: Comprox was faster. lol
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  • FlipsterFlipster Join Date: 2009-02-18 Member: 66469Members
    edited June 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1713983:date=Jun 25 2009, 02:48 PM:name=badtrip)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (badtrip @ Jun 25 2009, 02:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1713983"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->A video card that supports shader model 2.0 meaning a Nvidia fx 5xxx or better. I don't know ATI so someone else will have to answer that one...

    EDIT: Comprox was faster. lol<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Wow thats confusing lol if I got an iMac, it would probably be this model.

    Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS
    2GB of 800 MHz ram
    24" 1920x1200 screen

    Is that good enough to play most games? Thanks. Also, which one is better, ATI or NVIDIA?
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  • LeaderLeader Join Date: 2004-10-08 Member: 32157Members
    This system runs Arma2 At max graphics, I think it will most definitely run NS2:

    Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 ghz
    G-SKILL 4 Gigs of ram
    Windows XP 32 bit
    Geforce GTX 275 896 MB.
    Gigabyte 965p-DS3 motherboard
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  • Eternaly_LostEternaly_Lost Join Date: 2004-11-20 Member: 32907Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1714007:date=Jun 25 2009, 05:29 PM:name=Flipster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flipster @ Jun 25 2009, 05:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1714007"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow thats confusing lol if I got an iMac, it would probably be this model.

    Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS
    2GB of 800 MHz ram
    24" 1920x1200 screen

    Is that good enough to play most games? Thanks. Also, which one is better, ATI or NVIDIA?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    You should be fine, I don't know how much ram that Geforce 8800 GS has, but it should be fine.

    As for what is better it depends a lot on the game rather then this is better then the other. It nothing that can be avoided, ATI and NVIDIA both have different internals, and these like some methods better then others. So in one game ATI is better well the other Nvidia is better.
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  • FlipsterFlipster Join Date: 2009-02-18 Member: 66469Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1714023:date=Jun 25 2009, 06:29 PM:name=Eternaly_Lost)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eternaly_Lost @ Jun 25 2009, 06:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1714023"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should be fine, I don't know how much ram that Geforce 8800 GS has, but it should be fine.

    As for what is better it depends a lot on the game rather then this is better then the other. It nothing that can be avoided, ATI and NVIDIA both have different internals, and these like some methods better then others. So in one game ATI is better well the other Nvidia is better.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS has 512mb of video ram. Would I be able to play games like Crysis on it?
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Requirements for a Mac are simple

    Buy a PC...

    /me hides
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  • Termy58Termy58 Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58102Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1713958:date=Jun 25 2009, 05:54 PM:name=Comprox)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Comprox @ Jun 25 2009, 05:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1713958"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->At this point no specific work has been done on the Mac or Linux versions so I assume it won't be coming out soon after the PC version (if at all, it's just a dream right now). The Mac specs, if it does come to mac, will likely be similar to the PC ones: A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card for the minimum.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    there aint no directx bugga
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1714196:date=Jun 27 2009, 03:57 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Jun 27 2009, 03:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1714196"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Requirements for a Mac are simple

    Buy a PC...

    /me hides<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well said.

    bugga aye? i see what you did there.
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  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    Unknown Worlds is already a pretty small outfit. Expecting Mac (less than 4% of global market share) support would be unrealistic.
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  • Termy58Termy58 Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58102Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1714409:date=Jun 27 2009, 08:44 PM:name=Rapier7)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rapier7 @ Jun 27 2009, 08:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1714409"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unknown Worlds is already a pretty small outfit. Expecting Mac (less than 4% of global market share) support would be unrealistic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nice made up statistic and in the world market pc is 90%, including school computers, work computers and so on so it would be much lower once you boil it down to NS2 user base
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1714411:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:11 PM:name=Termy58)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Termy58 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1714411"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->nice made up statistic and in the world market pc is 90%, including school computers, work computers and so on so it would be much lower once you boil it down to NS2 user base<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    OS wise yes, Gaming wise it is smaller.

    I could tell you that the iphone is the fastest emerging gaming platform by market share, I could tell you Mac is growing at a slow rate, I could tell you linux is growing at a smaller rate than Mac in terms of market share by gaming. I could then tell you that for roughly every 9 Windows PC's in the world there is 1 Mac, and for every 100 Windows PC's there is around 5 Linux. Would you believe me? Probably not.
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  • TheMoldyOneTheMoldyOne Join Date: 2007-07-26 Member: 61682Members
    cool.
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  • radforChristradforChrist USA Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6871Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    Well, given the specs given, I'd say any unibody macbook/pro you buy should play it fine, my macbook plays NS1 (of course) and CS:S and other HL2 games/mods fine. So NS2 support should be pretty good.

    We all know Max has said he'd like to have NS2 on all platforms, just not initially. he even went far enough to say in the Linux thread I think that the DirectX dependent coding was nothing crucial to the engine and could be switched out for other OS. I only have W7 on my macbook for NS, so once NS2 is released on OSX I'll no longer run Windows for any reason (other than VirtualBox for work purposes).

    It'll come, be patient. Yes, the Mac and Linux markets aren't huge, but I'd imagine you'd get a pretty high return on the port due to the lack of good games on the platforms right now.

    And as I've already stated, an engine that looks this good with Mac/Linux portability will be a source of revenue alone. I think there are plenty of publishers and devs who would jump at the chance for a scalable engine that can go multiplatform with little effort. I just hope NS2 is the first to take advantage of it!
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