Anyone notice more hostility lately

DogbiteDogbite Join Date: 2004-03-14 Member: 27329Members, Reinforced - Shadow
Did a bunch of combat servers shut down or something? The general attitude on ns maps has been pretty poor lately. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />

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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    ###### YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    no I haven't lol, atleast not in Europe, I've been getting a bit of grief over in americaland :o
  • KazbarKazbar Join Date: 2004-10-20 Member: 32368Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1703254:date=Mar 22 2009, 12:57 PM:name=Dogbite)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dogbite @ Mar 22 2009, 12:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1703254"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Did a bunch of combat servers shut down or something? The general attitude on ns maps has been pretty poor lately. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    @ attitude on ns maps.

    I think the attitude stems from the various player types on the small remaining servers. Good Players + Noobs = Poor Attitude. I sometimes find it frustrating when playing with some players. It's not the new ones, but the players that don't want to learn. NS is a game that requires a lot of communication and if you can't communicate your team is at a severe disadvantage. I have come in contact with players that don't respond to Voice or Text, which is very frustrating. I can understand not being able to speak English, but if they see or hear their name they should respond with a quick "No English" or a blurb in the own language. I rarely think this is the case since you can usually tell by the bigger ping. It completely alludes me why someone would ignore their whole team on purpose. This is part where I usually have a "bad attitude". It's 2009, people should have invested into a mic by now or learn to read the text while playing.
  • radforChristradforChrist USA Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6871Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    I think it has more to do with the general attitudes tolerated, and in some cases, celebrated within the NS "skilled" community. It's not unusual to hear everything from simple profanities to racial language used on servers when someone doesn't agree with your play style. Heck, it's celebrated if you simply act like a jerk for no reason at all.

    I've asked multiple times in servers why people 1: see a need to act in this manner at all, and 2: why others simply ignore or even reward this behavior. Outside of the usual racial comments, your mama, learn2haveskillz responses I expect, the few sincere ones don't really have an answer. It's usually "pro players act like this, nothing you can do".

    I know the internet and online gaming gives a reasonable sense of anonymity, and maybe it's the caliber of people that claim to fall into said "pro" mindset, but I am truly at a loss for the attitudes and play styles of some people in NS.

    Inasmuch as I enjoy playing on servers with skilled players, I find myself more and more looking for servers that I may know will have a horribly frustrating gameplay, but at least where people harbor SOME respect for one another. When I am on the "pro" servers, I've taken to just silently playing and doing my best, and ignoring/muting the rest. However, I feel it is slowly pulling me away again from NS.

    I'd love to hear from server admins as to why they think this class of player is so needed they are willing to sacrifice fun and decency for their involvement.
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1703303:date=Mar 23 2009, 09:05 AM:name=radforChrist)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(radforChrist @ Mar 23 2009, 09:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1703303"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd love to hear from server admins as to why they think this class of player is so needed they are willing to sacrifice fun and decency for their involvement.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Your characterization aside, there are a few reasons I can think of off the top of my head.<ul><li> There aren't enough players left that they can kick lots of people still playing(main reason)</li><li> They want the challenge</li><li> They want to play with knowledgeable players</li></ul>This is not to say there are not knowledgeable casual players, just that these players are usually not "in practice" and few in number.
  • DroggogDroggog Random Pubber Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3293Members, Constellation
    Well in most cases, when a player i know say "###### you drog!" cause i lmg'ed his fade (or "you suck drog" if i die stupidly), i know it's friendly somehow, just like in the real world... But for other people on the server that doesn't know we are e-friends, it may just looks like bad attitude. Let's not forget that factor. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
  • tekproxytekproxy Join Date: 2005-03-11 Member: 44813Members, Constellation
    Who still plays NS? -- A few casual gamers, very few new players and several dozen hardcore players that will still be playing after NS2 comes out. Hardcore NS players, for various reasons, are often completely lacking knowledge of even the most basic social graces. This will not change. The only way you can fix this "situation" is to increase new and casual gamer population and bring balance to the force.

    If you think NS be hostile, scrim CS.
  • BacillusBacillus Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58241Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1705540:date=Apr 22 2009, 08:16 PM:name=tekproxy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tekproxy @ Apr 22 2009, 08:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1705540"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hardcore NS players, for various reasons, are often completely lacking knowledge of even the most basic social graces. This will not change. The only way you can fix this "situation" is to increase new and casual gamer population and bring balance to the force.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To be honest, I think it's the combination of higher status and the Internet. I've seen very similar terrible manners from public players when somebody doesn't play siege007 their way or when they get enough of xp lead in co to mow down the rest of the server.

    The Internet makes people bad mannered, not necessarily the gaming habits themselves.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1705540:date=Apr 22 2009, 03:16 PM:name=tekproxy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tekproxy @ Apr 22 2009, 03:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1705540"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Who still plays NS? -- A few casual gamers, very few new players and several dozen hardcore players that will still be playing after NS2 comes out. Hardcore NS players, for various reasons, are often completely lacking knowledge of even the most basic social graces. This will not change. The only way you can fix this "situation" is to increase new and casual gamer population and bring balance to the force.

    If you think NS be hostile, scrim CS.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That.

    Well, not to say all hardcore players are jerks, but they seem to much more highly compose of obsessives and social rejects. Especially since alot of them are similarly attracted to ebaums world and SA and what not these days. Places that promote anonymous socially defunct humor.

    If someone is Bawing about raging however, stick your head in it. Rage is one of the classic staples of NS. RAAAGGGGEEEE
  • ValunasValunas Join Date: 2008-10-15 Member: 65211Members, Constellation
    Usually things are buried before they rot, but games tend to exist slightly further; maggots eating away at what was good before arriving at the grave.
    I wouldn't waste time with expectations.
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