The Dark Knight
<div class="IPBDescription">I'm sorry to say</div>it was absolutely awesome. This is easily one of the (if not THE) best movie I've seen in the last 12 months. Everyone needs to go see it. I'll echo what I've heard other people say: Heath Ledgers job playing the Joker is comparable to Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>You're a schemer, and look where that got you</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>You're a schemer, and look where that got you</span>
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I'll probably see the movie this weekend, and I expect to be blown away despite my preconceptions. =p
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I bet the scriptwriters are kicking themselves for killing off the wrong character. Kicking themselves <b>so hard</b>.</span>
--Scythe--
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I bet the scriptwriters are kicking themselves for killing off the wrong character. Kicking themselves <b>so hard</b>.</span>
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<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I agree with the bike being farfetched and would add that the cell-phone sonar and super CSI bullet-finger prints were pretty ridiculous as well
Throughout the whole movie I was thinking of what they are going to do without ledger being available to play the joker in the next one. I'm fairly sure they just won't bring back the joker, period. From what others have said the big blackguy from the boat near the end and the dude who threatened to out batman are to be the villians in the next one as well as the scare-crow possibly.</span>
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making a pencil disappear...'nuff said
I thought it was epic, and ya batman's roll was kinda silly, the voice was almost too much, but 9.5/10 from me
Joker was a great role. Good thing we can do stuff with computers now to stuff a dead body. haha
/too soon?
But ya, go computers, didn't they do that for The Crow a long time ago when the actor was "accidently" shot with a stunt gun that had a loaded bullet in it?
(ya i'm calous, whatever <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> )
But HOLY ######, this has just replaced Ironman as the best comic book movie ever for me. It's 2 1/2 hours, but I wish it could go longer.
The script is tight, no scenes are wasted, lots of character development and twists. The Dark Knight has the BEST characterization of Joker ever, on film or on television. Heath Ledger, you deserved a posthumous Oscar. The opening heist, the car chase scene, the "bat-kidnap-Chinese-boss-mission-impossible" scene, and the SWAT scenes are just beautiful cinematography. If there's a comic book movie deserve to be Oscar nominated for Best Picture, this one is it.
To quote other critics, some scenes could really have fooled me for a Michael Mann or Scorsese's movies. This is not just good comic book movie, this is excellent crime movie.
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It was a squib load, to be precise. The pistol had been used to fire a live round earlier, but the projectile got stuck in the barrel without anyone noticing. When they fired at the guy with a blank round, it propelled the projectile out of the barrel, killing him.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I bet the scriptwriters are kicking themselves for killing off the wrong character. Kicking themselves <b>so hard</b>.</span>
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I completely agree. <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Scarface should be the one who continues as the villian in the next batman movie, not the Joker. I think it would have been the perfect way for the Joker to die when batman shot those spikes into him and causing him to fall to his death. Just like the way the last guy who played the Joker died. They just made two-face so amazingly grotesque, that I wanted to see him get more screen time.</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I assume you mean two-face?</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>TWOFACE!</span>
yeah.
And rachel dawes didn't look as good in this movie. She looked so much older.
One thing I gripe about is the lack of soundtrack in the movie. There is only one, although it is an awesome one.
But HOLY ######, this has just replaced Ironman as the best comic book movie ever for me. It's 2 1/2 hours, but I wish it could go longer.
The script is tight, no scenes are wasted, lots of character development and twists. The Dark Knight has the BEST characterization of Joker ever, on film or on television. Heath Ledger, you deserved a posthumous Oscar. The opening heist, the car chase scene, the "bat-kidnap-Chinese-boss-mission-impossible" scene, and the SWAT scenes are just beautiful cinematography. If there's a comic book movie deserve to be Oscar nominated for Best Picture, this one is it.
To quote other critics, some scenes could really have fooled me for a Michael Mann or Scorsese's movies. This is not just good comic book movie, this is excellent crime movie.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aside from liking it more than Iron Man (and maybe the stuff about Oscars) I agree with you 100%. It was great to get away from all the shakyness and faux Eastern philosophy of Batman Begins.
Go watch the first Batman movie. The Riddler IS more whimsical, the joker is not. The joker is probably one of the darkest, nastiest traditional comic book villains there is.
I am actually sorta amused by it all. The 2 best Characters from Batman movies are The Joker, and The Joker. One played by Nicholson, and one by Ledger. Both different takes on the character, but both amazing.
<!--quoteo(post=1683930:date=Jul 18 2008, 11:42 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Jul 18 2008, 11:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683930"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I agree with the bike being farfetched and would add that the cell-phone sonar and super CSI bullet-finger prints were pretty ridiculous as well
Throughout the whole movie I was thinking of what they are going to do without ledger being available to play the joker in the next one. I'm fairly sure they just won't bring back the joker, period. From what others have said the big blackguy from the boat near the end and the dude who threatened to out batman are to be the villians in the next one as well as the scare-crow possibly.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I took the far fetched stuff and just let it run with it. IT was all kinda silly, but it was fun.
The black guy is a friken good guy, and the pudgy little accountant would make the worst villain ever. Scare Crow I am sorta confused about. Didn't he die at the end of Begins? But now we have a different one....
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magic
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making a pencil disappear...'nuff said
I thought it was epic, and ya batman's roll was kinda silly, the voice was almost too much, but 9.5/10 from me<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, the joker was brilliant, and that was probably one of the better scenes with him.
However, I actually liked the take on Batman. The voice was actually explained in Begins (IIRC) as it IS a voice changer. After all, one of the biggest celebs in Gotham? EVERYONE is gona recognize his voice.
Personally, I am really happy with the movie. My expectations and thoughts on Villains:
1) Joker had better stay locked up in Arkham (or manage to kill himself), as changing off of ledger jsut isn't going to work.
2) <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I am REALLY glad they killed off Two Face. He was far to sympathetic a character to make a really good villain. Too much work had been put into making Dent into the White Knight for his fall to really resonate properly. I was actually expecting the movie to end around where The Joker blew ip the hospital. Dent roaming around, Joker roaming around, Gordon Dead, etc etc. Great set up for a next film, in some ways. That and the fact that the movie had run for so damn long at that point, my internal clock was all like "movie over now".</span>
3) I expect the next villain will be Cat Woman due to the comment with <Freeman's character> about the new armour. I also kinda hope that we actually have some of the romance between Selina Kyle and Batman, just because it was a staple from the comics.
4) However, if they introduce a proper Catwoman (who was only a cat burglar and nothing more), we need a main villain for the deadly aspect. Personally I expect to see either Riddler or some sorta revived scarecrow (though I hope not, as I like them changing the villains up).
All in all, a wonderful movie.
Now that's done, David Goyer said he'd like to use villain that haven't been used before in the next one.
You know what I'd like? Let's move Batman a bit toward DC Comics Universe and the metahuman. Killer Croc. Let's prep him for World's Finest. I really have confident that this team can make Killer Croc works while retaining the Dark Knight's feel.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>He didn't die. He was tazered in the face and rode off screaming. He was added to the beginning here to tie up that loose end.</span>
Ah, K. That works.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I Did notice (when poking at other stuff) that he is played by the same actor.</span>
<!--quoteo(post=1684136:date=Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1684136"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->2) <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I am REALLY glad they killed off Two Face. He was far to sympathetic a character to make a really good villain. Too much work had been put into making Dent into the White Knight for his fall to really resonate properly. I was actually expecting the movie to end around where The Joker blew ip the hospital. Dent roaming around, Joker roaming around, Gordon Dead, etc etc. Great set up for a next film, in some ways. That and the fact that the movie had run for so damn long at that point, my internal clock was all like "movie over now".</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I was figuring they'd keep two-face around for the next movie - that would have made sense to me... I don't think some actual background and character development is a bad thing for a villain. Honestly, I wish there were more action movies that actually had some villains with character development rather than dudes who are purely evil that you're supposed to blindly hate. and the whole concept behind his character was that good and evil are two sides of the same coin, and it's all guided by fate in the end... so the whole "white knight turned evil" thing was working for me.</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I was figuring they'd keep two-face around for the next movie - that would have made sense to me... I don't think some actual background and character development is a bad thing for a villain. Honestly, I wish there were more action movies that actually had some villains with character development rather than dudes who are purely evil that you're supposed to blindly hate. and the whole concept behind his character was that good and evil are two sides of the same coin, and it's all guided by fate in the end... so the whole "white knight turned evil" thing was working for me.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>The problem is that Dent was TOO likable to be flipped into some pathetic scumbag. It was too much of a right turn to make it last. I mean, this two face was about revenge over real (instead of perceived) wrongs. His goal was simply to extract revenge on the people responsible for his love's death, and then that was it.
Hell, the rationality behind his conversion was bad enough. Remember, Batman when to save one it was Rachel, not Dent he went for, yet no one tries to correct him when he rails at Gordon for being late.
I dono, it worked for what it was, and it was a good end and tie up, and lead into the next movie (with Batman being hunted), and I am glad it ended that way.</span>