Natural Selection, Or: How I Learned To Stop

InflatablewomanInflatablewoman Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7346Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Worrying And Love The n00b</div> Why are the marines in NS always so dumb ?

I hate going marine, because the commanders are 90% or the time stupid and build 30 turrets in their base with just one turret factory. They never attempt to take a hive, and just generally clueless. Marines HAVE to attack otherwise they get mauled. And why o why do some of the people also not want to go alien. "I dont like playing alien.", even tho the teams are 7 vs 2... FFS lamer **obscenity** n00bs.

Then when you go Commander and tell them to go to a waypoint they just moan and ask for a shottie. Then after 10 mins of messages (I turned off voice comms) you give him the shottie and he dies straight away. 90% of the marines never follow the waypoints, and those that do get eaten and cant get with the plan because nobody will support them. Of course you get ejected by the 5 little **obscenity** that are still in your base asking for a shottie.

bah!!! Playing aliens is a lot nicer. Allthough people that spawn into a Lerks (when you have one hive) all the time are just screwing their team over, if they keep getting killed every minute.

So what I would ask for is that the AI gets a complete overhall, as I am sick of playing as Marine and losing or playing as alien and winning.

But you have to laugh when you see a three man patrol coming your way, and you munch them all. Muahahahahahahahaahahaha!!!!

Comments

  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    The installer should have an IQ test you have to take before it installs. If you fail, it uninstalls Half-Life and brings you to a website for an elementary school. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AcKzAcKz Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10079Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Nov 28 2002, 04:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Nov 28 2002, 04:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The installer should have an IQ test you have to take before it installs. If you fail, it uninstalls Half-Life and brings you to a website for an elementary school. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rofl
  • MonkeygetMonkeyget Join Date: 2002-02-27 Member: 254Members
    The commander is a crucial element of the victory for humans. Usually when a commandeur is good players do what he say. If u are a marine player u can use th follow me command...i use it often
  • StueStue Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6017Members
    I know this is totally of topic.

    But in your title you obviously refer to the Dr. Strangelove movie.
    I then rememebered i always wanted to see it. So i considered eDonkey.
    I also checked the german TV program for it. And what do i see?

    Its been shown <b>today</b> at primetime on some retarded channel.
    Heres the info for all germans who are interested:

    <b>28.11.2002
    20:15
    3.Sat
    Dr. Strangelove or how i learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
    German title: Dr. Seltsam</b>

    Of course ill be watching that! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Ah, Dr. Strangelove. Very good movie..

    "We'll meet again... don't konw where... don't know when..."
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    once we got 2 hives at the beginning of the game but the comm was so a n00b we lost them both and had onoses in our base :/

    you never know...
  • Markeo900Markeo900 Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9041Members
    Yup marines generally suck are are often a bunch of idiots too, most of the time they won't even the teams if its 8 vs 5 or worse. Yesterday I played a game where the teams were 8 marines versus 5 aliens, and as aliens we abolstutely wiped the floor with them all the while they screaming about fades being overpowered and blablabhjablah.

    So we still kick their **obscenity** and they come on the boards screaming about how the game is biased and unbalanced. And blabhblablah.

    A marine team with more than four brain cells is just as good as any alien team, but aliens are winning far more often because marines just sit in their base crying until their commander gives them a hmg so they can run off and get killed and not follow waypoints or do anything for the team.

    Funny how the NS team removed the marines scores and no the aliens ones eh, cus they knew what most marines would be like.

    I love nothing better than eating some newbie marine with a hmg or a shotty as a skulk and watching him go "WTF OMG HAX" and leaving after i've killed him 5 times because he can't cope with the fact that hes got a gun and yet I killed HIM.

    There are some very skilled and very good marines out there as there are alien players, but atm your average joe marine just hasn't got over that fact this is counter-strike yet.

    Happy hunting, Mark
  • Stryver_the_LonesomeStryver_the_Lonesome Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10155Members
    I feel I must defend the marine side. I play in a server in which there are several very skilled comm's the games are almost always good.
    Marines are in fact more difficult to master than Aliens. Before you go nuts, hear me out.
    While its a bit tough to get used to playing as a alien, pretty much everyone can build or attack as they see fit. Teamwork is always required to get that last hive, but its also possible to do it with only a few skilled alien players.
    On the marines side, however, the commander is absolutely critical, as I am sure you know. Whe you play with a skilled comm AND(plz mind the AND) you have a team that listens and doesnt just beg for armor and bigger guns and ammo all the time, the marines are damned near unstoppable, even against the best alien teams.
    All of you that think otherwise just havent been in a good game yet.
  • StueStue Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6017Members
    Erm...marines generally suck?

    Infact, it requires MUCH MORE skills to play marines than to play aliens. And the one guy that must be good is the commander. If he sucks the marines already lost. If marines dont get orders, lose their faith in their commander they just roam about trying to harrass aliens but fail coz <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> pwnz <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> .

    Its sad but its true.
  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    sheez stop bashing commanders =P
  • NimbusNimbus Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Stue+Nov 28 2002, 11:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stue @ Nov 28 2002, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Erm...marines generally suck?

    Infact, it requires MUCH MORE skills to play marines than to play aliens. And the one guy that must be good is the commander. If he sucks the marines already lost. If marines dont get orders, lose their faith in their commander they just roam about trying to harrass aliens but fail coz <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> pwnz <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> .

    Its sad but its true.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, one competent lmg marine is FAR superior to a competent skulk. A skulk MUST take the marine by suprise to have a chance at all. Of course this is assuming these players are complete idiots.
  • Bicycle_Repair_ManBicycle_Repair_Man Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7926Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually, one competent lmg marine is FAR superior to a competent skulk. A skulk MUST take the marine by suprise to have a chance at all. Of course this is assuming these players are complete idiots.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I agree with this, with a competant marine team that travels in packs that make even surprise attacks nearly useless. Skulk rushes at the start are becoming less and less effective to slowing the marines down. Marines are starting to aim better and know where are favorite hiding places are also making suprise attacks less effective.

    HEY before you reply to me saying i am bad at skulking and i should get better. I AGREE. Help me become a better skulk!
  • HoMIciDaL_PuPPyHoMIciDaL_PuPPy Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10091Members
    edited November 2002
    thatll end soon the only reason so many noobs go marine is cuz it says at the beginning

    "if you are new you should try marine first"

    but yeh generally the marines lose cuz of either a. crappy marines or b. crappy commander

    but intelligent marines generally slaughter novice aliens
    + aliens are more self sufficant

    like 1 alien could slaughter 15 marines so if aliens has noobs then its usually less noticable
  • FunkTheMonkFunkTheMonk Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4933Members
    You cant always blame a commander for doing a bad job.
    Its usually the other teams determination that gets their hives back, not the faults of a commander.
  • eagleceaglec Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9948Members, Constellation
    I agree it's not always the commanders fault but I would like to ask that the commander who ignored cries for ammo and health after me and a team mate single handedly destroys half a dozen aliens and a hive using every last bullet we had, a few knife slashes and a lot of luck only to eventualy answer with the words 'phase gate' - "PLEASE NEVER GET IN THAT CHAIR AGAIN!"

    We dutifully ran through the corridors back to the phase gate expecting an ammo dump to need building or some health packs or something in return for our efforts. To find that he had sent us there to take out <b>fade !</b> with our trusty penknifes.
    Well, I follow orders and immediately engaged the fade in melee combat with my team-mate moving round the side to corner the **obscenity**. Things got worse after we respawned!!!

    <b>Commanders -</b> talk to your troops - let them know your awake.
    <b>Troops - </b>follow orders. Assist your commanders descision making - once he decides its final though.

    <b>Aliens - </b>remember to stand very still in plain sight without moving - this confuses the marines and no harm will come of you. Honest.

    that should even up the sides <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Eaglec <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FoggyFoggy Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9620Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Nov 28 2002, 01:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Nov 28 2002, 01:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The installer should have an IQ test you have to take before it installs. If you fail, it uninstalls Half-Life and brings you to a website for an elementary school. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With questions like:

    12) The game has just started. You are a marine. What do you say?

    a) Let's take the first hive!
    b) HA HA HA HMG HMG HMG PLZZZ!!!!!!11
    c) Let me be comm, I r teh 1337!
    d) How do I fire?

    47) You are commander and have just taken your first hive. What is your next step?

    a) Build a 300-RP turret farm in a dead end corridor.
    b) Push for the second hive.
    c) Leave the game.
    d) Accidentally build three prototype labs.
  • Stryver_the_LonesomeStryver_the_Lonesome Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10155Members
    Once again, it all comes down to a commander being competant (i cant spell 4 crap) and troops that dont spend their time going hunting for no reason and not building key structures. It is simple....to be effective you need both a good comm AND good, obediant, effectively strategic marines to carry out the comms orders.
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • rhettrhett Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8030Members
    I agree that I have seen many a game ruined by a bad comm.
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