Adobe® Photoshop® Software

DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
<div class="IPBDescription">aka PHOTOSHOPP'D</div><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun. The Photoshop trademark should always be capitalized and should never be used in possessive form, or as a slang term. It should be used as an adjective to describe the product, and should never be used in abbreviated form. The following examples illustrate these rules:

Trademarks are not verbs.


CORRECT: The image was enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop® software.



INCORRECT: The image was photoshopped. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<a href="http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#photoshop" target="_blank">http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#photoshop</a>

wow their policy screams "WE ARE ASS HOLES" XD
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited August 2007
    Hmm, well I can play litterality games too:

    I do not advocate piracy of Adobe® products.

    (since you can't hear tone of voice from text, you can't know if I'm sarcastic or serious can you? Ha!)
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    This is a shop, I can tell by the pixels and by having seen quite a few shops in my time.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <i>Did you know?</i>

    Pixels are related to pixies.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Cyndane wrote that, didn't she? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644610:date=Aug 19 2007, 06:20 PM:name=Rover)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rover @ Aug 19 2007, 06:20 PM) [snapback]1644610[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    This is a enhanced image using Adobe® Photoshop® software, I can tell by the pixels and by having seen quite a few enhanced Adobe® Photoshop® software images in my time.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    fix'd
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    edited August 2007
    But what if I used <strike>PSP</strike> Corel® Paint Shop Pro® or GIMP? Then the "correct" stuff isn't right at all! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    What babies, that's like a game company crying over abbreviations.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What? Are they crazy? Most companies would kill for that kind of brand recognition. It's like when people say "hand me a kleenex" or "I'd like a coke" (even though they mean any soda type beverage).

    This just makes absolutely no sense as to why they would want this. Maybe they think it's because it's used in a negative light?
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    No, DOOM, that's not it.

    Photoshop is a trademarked name. If Adobe doesn't attempt to fight for their trademark when trademark infringement occurs, they'll potentially lose protection of said trademark.

    As much as a company wants to be considered first, they don't want to potentially lose their trademarks in the process.
  • ZydecoZydeco Join Date: 2005-03-06 Member: 43794Members, NS1 Playtester
    If they lose their trademark Bob could make his own program called "Bob's Photoshop".

    Which is why they dont want Photoshop becoming a common verb or a noun.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644628:date=Aug 19 2007, 07:47 PM:name=Zydeco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zydeco @ Aug 19 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1644628[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If they lose their trademark Bob could make his own program called "Bob's Photoshop".

    Which is why they dont want Photoshop becoming a common verb or a noun.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Bingo.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    well people use the word 'xerox' to mean 'photocopy' more often than people say 'photocopy' - but I don't see Canon Xerox machines as a result; I still see Canon copiers. Does free advertising really mean people can steal your name?
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does free advertising really mean people can steal your name?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Realistically no, technically yes.
  • arcticaarctica Shindiggery innit Join Date: 2005-02-18 Member: 41646Members
    edited August 2007
    Bob doesn't want to stop at a road.

    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    (I hope someone gets that reference, lest I come off as a bigger dork)
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1644628:date=Aug 19 2007, 07:47 PM:name=Zydeco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zydeco @ Aug 19 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1644628[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If they lose their trademark Bob could make his own program called "Bob's Photoshop".

    Which is why they dont want Photoshop becoming a common verb or a noun.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is exactly correct. For that same reason Google has been publicly against people using "google" as a verb. No one is dumb enough to think that it's anything but free publicity. The problem is that if you don't take action to defend your trademark then it can be challenged in the courts and you might lose it.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644628:date=Aug 19 2007, 05:47 PM:name=Zydeco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zydeco @ Aug 19 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]1644628[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If they lose their trademark Bob could make his own program called "Bob's Photoshop".
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How exactly does someone lose their trademark?
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644658:date=Aug 19 2007, 08:41 PM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Aug 19 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]1644658[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    How exactly does someone lose their trademark?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    When the name becomes the commonly used word for a product. Like, a piece of kleenex, or making a xerox.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    But the company doesn't lose the trademark right? This is what I'm not getting.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    INCORRECT:
    Adobe has sand in their nether regions.

    CORRECT:
    You need to tell your Lawyers® to Relax©.


    Being promoted to a part of speech is like the holy grail of the Internet. I use Paint Shop Pro to digitally photo-manipulate things and people still call them "photoshops"
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1644668:date=Aug 20 2007, 01:52 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Aug 20 2007, 01:52 AM) [snapback]1644668[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    But the company doesn't lose the trademark right? This is what I'm not getting.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    According to the law, if the word becomes the common usage and the company doesn't attempt to protect it's trademark, then a court can rule that they no longer have the exclusive right to use the trademark.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    How many people actually use the term "photoshopped" any more? Doesn't everyone just use "Shop'd"?

    Which they can't complain about.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644671:date=Aug 19 2007, 11:09 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Aug 19 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1644671[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    INCORRECT:
    Adobe has sand in their nether regions.

    CORRECT:
    You need to tell your Lawyers® to Relax©.
    Being promoted to a part of speech is like the holy grail of the Internet. I use Paint Shop Pro to digitally photo-manipulate things and people still call them "photoshops"
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ...

    Does what everyone else has said mean nothing to you? Or are you just hoping to make your own Photoshop knockoff with the PS name attached?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1644672:date=Aug 20 2007, 02:12 AM:name=moultano)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(moultano @ Aug 20 2007, 02:12 AM) [snapback]1644672[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    According to the law, if the word becomes the common usage and the company doesn't attempt to protect it's trademark, then a court can rule that they no longer have the exclusive right to use the trademark.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is correct.

    as people keep bringing up the Xerox/Kleenex thing I will comment.

    Both of those companies have had brushes with losing their trademarks, and now respond very forcibly when they can.

    Yes, having your brand name associated with with the type of product you sell is awesome for companies, HOWEVER if they do not show that they are actively protecting. They don't have to sue a magazine that mentions xeroxing a document, however they WILL send them an official letter letting them know something along the lines of "Xerox is a trademarked name. If you continue to incorrectly use our Trademark we will sue your punk asses.".
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    INCORRECT:
    Photoshopping is something people do.

    CORRECT:
    Paul, I slept with your wife, Lois - I am SO sorry. See you at work.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1644714:date=Aug 20 2007, 10:14 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 20 2007, 10:14 AM) [snapback]1644714[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    ...

    Does what everyone else has said mean nothing to you? Or are you just hoping to make your own Photoshop knockoff with the PS name attached?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    quiet, you're ruining my plans for world domination
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1644672:date=Aug 20 2007, 12:12 AM:name=moultano)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(moultano @ Aug 20 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]1644672[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    According to the law, if the word becomes the common usage and the company doesn't attempt to protect it's trademark, then a court can rule that they no longer have the exclusive right to use the trademark.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How can they protect it anyway, tell me it's stop?

    That's a bullsh*t law.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1645117:date=Aug 22 2007, 03:32 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Aug 22 2007, 03:32 AM) [snapback]1645117[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    How can they protect it anyway, tell me it's stop?

    That's a bullsh*t law.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They protect it by simply doing what adobe did. Have it documented somewhere that they took steps to protect their trademark. They don't have to sue people who are using it in everyday speech, but they need proof that they did attempt to protect it.

    Adobe doesn't ACTUALLY want you to stop using it, but they need evidence that proves they attempted to protect it. So if some time down the road they try and sue bob because he named his program photoshop.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    so they want everyone to use it, but they have to be able to prove that they didn't want everyone to use it just in case someone uses it in a way they didn't expect.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1645144:date=Aug 22 2007, 01:08 PM:name=Black_Mage)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black_Mage @ Aug 22 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]1645144[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    so they want everyone to use it, but they have to be able to prove that they didn't want everyone to use it just in case someone uses it in a way they didn't expect.
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    Exactly.

    Though Im pretty sure they know which kinds of uses they would sue over.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1645117:date=Aug 21 2007, 08:32 PM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Aug 21 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1645117[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    How can they protect it anyway, tell me it's stop?

    That's a bullsh*t law.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    They can't, however your license to use photoshop can be suspended over it..
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