Loss of Internet Privacy in the EU

GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">and specifically Germany</div>Apparently some legislative action is being taken that will severely reduce internet privacy and Google might shut down gmail in Germany as a response (<a href="http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/google_may_close_gmail_germany_over_privacy_concerns.php" target="_blank">here</a>)

I don't have details on the law itself and was wondering what other people here knew. I have heard that this is part of an EU wide directive of sorts.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    We're all going to have to stop speaking German, so that they won't understand what we're writing!
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    What IS wrong with the german administration? They seem to carry a grudge against digital media.
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited June 2007
    *censored humorous remark* - comprox.
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    edited June 2007
    *smooth move too, not* --Comprox
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  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    Germany has always been crazy imo <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1635700:date=Jun 24 2007, 09:01 PM:name=Drfuzzy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Drfuzzy @ Jun 24 2007, 09:01 PM) [snapback]1635700[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    <b>Earth</b> has always been crazy imo <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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    Fix'd.
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  • KainTSAKainTSA Join Date: 2005-05-30 Member: 52831Members, Constellation
    Didn't google already give in and allow China to use its search engine with some results filtered out? They said they would never do that. I fail to see how this german law is any worse, so they will probably wuss out on it too.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited June 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1635750:date=Jun 25 2007, 01:33 PM:name=KainTSA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KainTSA @ Jun 25 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]1635750[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Didn't google already give in and allow China to use its search engine with some results filtered out? They said they would never do that. I fail to see how this german law is any worse, so they will probably wuss out on it too.
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    The China situation consisted of censorship.

    The German situation consists of privacy.

    2 compleatly different ball games.


    BTW, quick note:
    This is actualy their enforcement of a new <a href="http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.1/dataretention" target="_blank">European Parliament Law</a>.

    I am curious as to why the focus is on Germany, and not all of the EU....
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  • KainTSAKainTSA Join Date: 2005-05-30 Member: 52831Members, Constellation
    Yes but what I'm saying is Google already gave in on other principles so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Please don't wuss out Google. Fight the powah!
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1635840:date=Jun 25 2007, 05:32 PM:name=Nil_IQ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nil_IQ @ Jun 25 2007, 05:32 PM) [snapback]1635840[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Please don't wuss out Google. Fight the powah!
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    They've <i>already</i> wussed out once. That's the point.

    Not to mention this wouldn't be wussing out so much as it is taking a stand.
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  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Is this the thing about people getting mad that google kept a 2 year history of peoples' searches? I know there were some people getting all uppity about other stuff, but it didn't seem all that severe from what I paid attention to...

    Why do we specifically want google to have 2 years (...apparently shortened to 18 months at some point recently) of search histories?


    Or is this the crazy German congressman who wanted to keep track of everything people did on the internet?

    I know there's the whole 'some Germans were on the Al Qaida recruitment tape'-thing, but somehow I don't think 'locking down the internet' is going to help much. Then again, this may be completely unrelated, and the congressman was all excited that inacted legislature may be put into effect. Well, I'm not all up on the EU politics, but I did enjoy the CNN station saying "EU parliment close to 'constitution' compromise" and then the German news station essentially saying "we're nowhere close to a compromise".
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  • ExploderExploder Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58202Members
    I could never live in Germany.

    If this really is a worldwide EU law... I can't see how Norway would ever join the EU. That might be a good thing though <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    /me patiently awaits his chance to invoke Godwin's Law.

    C'mon, freedom of speech and Germany? It's got to happen before this thread hits 3 pages.

    - Shockwave
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