Heroes Speculation!

QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">zomg of teh SPOIZLRZ!</div>Okay, so I like this show too much. It just keeps getting better, I love the actors, and the story has been surprising as heck ever since the 4th episode on(before that it was just a tad predictable).

I hope Eden isn't really dead.
I hope Zack ends up remembering again somehow, 'cause frankly, I'm a romance addict and the nerd getting the hot superhero cheerleader would make me grin for a week straight.
I hope Peter isn't really the bomb, he's just seeing it in relation.
Sylar. Is effing. Awesome.

Things I wonder about:

Peter: Can he somehow sense everything important? I have a wierd idea like maybe that hallucination at the end of the current episode is maybe his 'true' power- not one of mimicry, but perhaps a underlying, uber powerful sense of intuition?

Simone. She's gotta have a superpower. In Peter's dream, she was there- and was the only one 'without' a power. I'm almost sure she has to have a power.

Future Hiro has seen the explosion. If Nathan blows up and Hiro still looks nerdy, I doubt he's even seen the dinosaur yet.

Okay, also: Mr. Bennet is creepy. I've got a wierd feeling like he's related to Lindberg- perhaps thats the company he works for, something of Lindberg's. It'd tie things together really well.

What're your guy's speculations?
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Uh whats this thread about? A little intro pls <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    Ahh man, I missed episode 11. Damn university.

    Guess I'll have to torrent it. Shouldn't have clicked this page, now it's spoiled <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />.
    Zach lost memory? Grrr... I too just want the cliche geek-get-girl plot.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    edited December 2006
    Heroes a new series on NBC: <a href="http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/" target="_blank">http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/</a>

    Biggest Heroes Fansite: <a href="http://www.heroes-forum.com/" target="_blank">http://www.heroes-forum.com/</a>

    Downloads and previews: *not sure if this is allowed, but can be found in the heroes-forum*

    Directly quoted from heroes-forum:

    In this episode we are introduced to Peter Petrelli, a young man who dreams of flying, and his brother Nathan, a ruthless politician who thinks that Peter is dreaming his life away. Meanwhile, ordinary people from all around the world are starting to suspect that they have abilities beyond those of normal humans. Artist Isaac Mendez believes that he is painting the future, High School cheerleader Claire Bennet is suddenly able to recover from any wound almost instantly, Japanese businessman Hiro Nakamura tries to convince a friend that he can bend space and time, and single mother Niki Sanders starts seeing strange things in mirrors.

    Upon learning of his father's death, genetics Professor Mohinder Suresh begins to look into his research for a clue to why he was killed. When he follows his father's trail to New York City, however, he Mohinder learns that someone else is on the trail of the same research. Someone who may kill to protect the secrets of the next step in human evolution.

    Almost forgot: All Heroes episodes seem to be avaliable online from the nbc homepage at <a href="http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/heroes.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/heroes.shtml</a>

    But this is for US citziens only (not working for me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> )

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    So Episode 11, just saw it, had to download it in crappy quality (living in france and not having NBC and stuff). But the episode was great.

    Favourite Charakter? I sure the hell don't know. I like all of them a lot. But it tends to be Hiro/Peter/Matt.
  • kyliegirlkyliegirl Gorge Master Australia Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10586Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    eden is dead she killed herself so sylar cant get her powers. they have the comic on the site of the cheerleaders dad going to edens family to tell them she had died..

    as for peter being the bomb, i am hoping he isnt. but most likely he wont be as that would be ruining the ending of the series too soon.. it wont happen and if it does, well that would suck and it would be the end of the series of heroes..

    heroes is currently very big in america and therfore i doubt they would end the tv series.. they would make more .. much like stargate.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1584657:date=Dec 6 2006, 01:32 AM:name=kyliegirl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kyliegirl @ Dec 6 2006, 01:32 AM) [snapback]1584657[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    eden is dead she killed herself so sylar cant get her powers. they have the comic on the site of the cheerleaders dad going to edens family to tell them she had died..

    as for peter being the bomb, i am hoping he isnt. but most likely he wont be as that would be ruining the ending of the series too soon.. it wont happen and if it does, well that would suck and it would be the end of the series of heroes..

    heroes is currently very big in america and therfore i doubt they would end the tv series.. they would make more .. much like stargate.
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    As you wrote it I found it... too bad.

    Here is the link: <a href="http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novel_011.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novel_011.shtml</a>

    But then again, maybe Hiro can fiddle with it, hm? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    I think radioactive man is the bomb. Peter and gang stop him somehow. Peter absorbs his power temporarily. Kerplow!

    Hiro does his time travel thing. Past that it's pointless to speculate, it's time travel.




    And by far, Hiro is my favorite character.

    "Boop, boop!"
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1584742:date=Dec 5 2006, 11:25 PM:name=T_h_e_m)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T_h_e_m @ Dec 5 2006, 11:25 PM) [snapback]1584742[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I think radioactive man is the bomb.
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    Jimminy jillikers!

    Anyway, I love Heroes.

    And Hiro is pretty awesome. Its really too bad that he couldn't save the waitress, though.

    And I'm said that Eden died. I liked her. And Sylar is a bad ######.

    So, why do we think that Peter is sick? Is it because he came into contact with Sylar, and absorbed all of his powers, and its like an overload?
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited December 2006
    When Hiro meets peter on the subway, he says "You look different without your scar". Peter has no scar when he blows up in the vision, nor does Hiro have a sword strapped to his back. The futures we are seeing glimpses of are possible futures, the episode already clearly established through Isaac that the future can be changed.

    I guess that's going to be the premise of this first season. How can the Heroes use their abilities to prevent catastrophes.

    This show has a lot of similarities with Lost, in that there are a lot of complex interwoven stories all related to the 'grand plan' for the drama. The reason I'm starting to much prefer Heroes, is that the main thread and the individual sidelines are all part of the same narrative. Lost is just getting boring, there's way too much irrelevant detail now. Heroes has quickly become the show that I look forward to the most each week.

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    So, why do we think that Peter is sick? Is it because he came into contact with Sylar, and absorbed all of his powers, and its like an overload?
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    Yes, I think this is the most plausible explanation for why Peter is not well. It also raises the question: Was Peter's vision a manifestation of one of Sylar's abilities? Also, Peter was also in proximity to the Haitan guy.

    That's another very interesting development, how the Haitan actually can speak, and appears to be helping Clair to evade her Father's machinations.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    You know, I bet that they WILL fail to stop the bomb. I think that's how the creator intended in the first place for somewhat apocalyptic world. Oh the irony, the rating will bomb if it happens now and people will call them jumping the shark.
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Gah. I shouldn't have clicked this thread. Just spoiled Ep 11 for me.

    I'm still wondering what exactly Niki's powers are though.
  • LanfearLanfear Join Date: 2006-11-15 Member: 58615Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1584839:date=Dec 6 2006, 04:33 PM:name=ZeroByte)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZeroByte @ Dec 6 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1584839[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Gah. I shouldn't have clicked this thread. Just spoiled Ep 11 for me.

    I'm still wondering what exactly Niki's powers are though.
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    Did you want an actual explanation or did you just wish to find out for yourself?
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Re: geek getting the cheerleader idea with Zach ~~~ they've pretty much said Zach's, well, not into girls. Or have I been reading too much into the subtext between him and Cheerverine pre-prom?
  • LanfearLanfear Join Date: 2006-11-15 Member: 58615Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1584888:date=Dec 6 2006, 06:31 PM:name=Plaguebearer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plaguebearer @ Dec 6 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]1584888[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Re: geek getting the cheerleader idea with Zach ~~~ they've pretty much said Zach's, well, not into girls. Or have I been reading too much into the subtext between him and Cheerverine pre-prom?
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  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    I think Zach is straight, its just your regulation cheerleading taunting the less beautiful situation. At least that's how I saw it. The cheerleader taunts Zach but he just ignores her cause he's found its less of a pain that way.

    The Niki thing, I'd like to find out for myself although I have some theories. At first I thought she was able to literally split herself up but now my thinking is that she has the ability to absorb personalities hence her sister being with her.
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yes, there was the taunting by now-dead cheerleader chickie, but the conversation between Claire and Zach later, when he came to help her ditch being grounded, seemed to reinforce it.

    <a href="http://tviv.org/Heroes/Zach" target="_blank">link</a>
    <a href="http://heroeswiki.com/Zach" target="_blank">link</a>

    About Niki and Jessica, I assume Jessica is your basic split personality. Niki probably saw her father kill Jessica, and supressed the memory, which grew into a second persona. Being the emotionally 'stronger' personality, Jessica would probably have free access to their super strength power (I'm assuming it's strength, given how easily she tosssed DL around the room) where Niki, being emotionally 'weak' wouldn't have free access to her power.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1584927:date=Dec 6 2006, 11:43 AM:name=Plaguebearer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plaguebearer @ Dec 6 2006, 11:43 AM) [snapback]1584927[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Yes, there was the taunting by now-dead cheerleader chickie, but the conversation between Claire and Zach later, when he came to help her ditch being grounded, seemed to reinforce it.

    <a href="http://tviv.org/Heroes/Zach" target="_blank">link</a>
    <a href="http://heroeswiki.com/Zach" target="_blank">link</a>

    About Niki and Jessica, I assume Jessica is your basic split personality. Niki probably saw her father kill Jessica, and supressed the memory, which grew into a second persona. Being the emotionally 'stronger' personality, Jessica would probably have free access to their super strength power (I'm assuming it's strength, given how easily she tosssed DL around the room) where Niki, being emotionally 'weak' wouldn't have free access to her power.
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    This makes me wonder if Nikki has any powers herself, or if only Jessica has super strength.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    One thing for sure, I can't wait to see Hiro fighting T-Rex with a sword.
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1584979:date=Dec 6 2006, 01:11 PM:name=DrSuredeath)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DrSuredeath @ Dec 6 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]1584979[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    One thing for sure, I can't wait to see Hiro fighting T-Rex with a sword.
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    Best TV moment ever when it comes.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    I will be really ###### if I never get to see Hiro and the T-Rex. I was cheated out of Clark Kent meeting Bruce Wayne in Smallville. I sat through the entire season, hoping that may be THIS day Clark Kent will meet Bruce Wayne. Damn you, false hype and fan service plot device...

    Oh shiat... You don't think they... No, wait. Happy thought. Happy thought. NBC wouldn't cheat me out of this.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    edited December 2006
    Can anyone get a link to that picture that Isaac painted, showing Peter going critical. (It shows a man glowing bright red while holding his arms up and surrounded by cityscape. Peter later mimics this as he goes critical in his vision.) I really really loved that drawing and I'm dying to see it.

    Oh and Hiro Nakamura's "Blog" is a strange read. The fact that it ties into the story is good and yet it's so... net-savvy, it's weird. I like it though.

    <a href="http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/" target="_blank">http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/</a>
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1585164:date=Dec 7 2006, 05:12 AM:name=Cold_NiTe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cold_NiTe @ Dec 7 2006, 05:12 AM) [snapback]1585164[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Can anyone get a link to that picture that Isaac painted, showing Peter going critical. (It shows a man glowing bright red while holding his arms up and surrounded by cityscape. Peter later mimics this as he goes critical in his vision.) I really really loved that drawing and I'm dying to see it.

    Oh and Hiro Nakamura's "Blog" is a strange read. The fact that it ties into the story is good and yet it's so... net-savvy, it's weird. I like it though.

    <a href="http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/" target="_blank">http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/</a>
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    You sir, are a king.
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    The actor who plays Hiro, Masi Oka, is kick ###### on so many levels. Before his acting gig he worked over at ILM doing <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,71984-0.html" target="_blank">geeky graphics stuff</a> like coding wave sims! He still works there now part time.

    Theres a big honking plot hole with Hiro being unable to save Charlie though. He could have just phoned himself and his friend to get to the diner earlier but instead he decides to travel there. Boo hiss!
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    He called, but Ando was not there, only himself. He didn't want to cause a rift by talking to himself.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    And we all know what happens when you call and try to convince yourself not to do something.

    Why just ask Eric Cartman. Didn't work out too well for him.
  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Hiro is one of the greatest television characters ever. I also can't wait for the T-Rex fight.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1585164:date=Dec 7 2006, 01:12 AM:name=Cold_NiTe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cold_NiTe @ Dec 7 2006, 01:12 AM) [snapback]1585164[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Oh and Hiro Nakamura's "Blog" is a strange read. The fact that it ties into the story is good and yet it's so... net-savvy, it's weird. I like it though.

    <a href="http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/" target="_blank">http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/</a>
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    I failed.
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    Ok, this is just wrong. When you failed to save a girl getting gruesomely killed, posting

    "_| ̄|○"
    Seemed a bit out of character. The previous entries were fine, back then there was cheerfulness that is hope.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Yeah he sounds like a 2chan poster making an ascii joke. It seems too comedic considering that someone <b>died</b>. I didn't like that bit either. But I don't really hold it up to the show in my mind. I mean obviously it's just written by some guy who is paid to do it.
  • Splinter_SteveSplinter_Steve Join Date: 2005-03-20 Member: 45881Members
    Mondays at 9 on my dorm floor is now known as "Claire-time". Of course Hiro rocks too. The older Petrelli probably interests me the most character-wise, though. My speculations so far are that Mohinder has some sort of power, and in the end Peter will absorb all of their collective powers and rock Sylar in the face. Til then, more Claire plz <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" />
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