Crt Vs Lcd

DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
edited July 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Getting a new monitor</div> I'm moving and I've decided to leave my 17" CRT for my friend here and get a new monitor.

Before I start hitting ebay, I did some google, and the general concensus seemed to be:
1. CRT - less viewable area than the spec, but it's much cheaper anyway to get a bigger one.
2. LCD - more limited in terms of color and resolution, more fragile, afterimage or whatever it is called, viewing angle problem, but take up less space

So here's my beef... I'm tempted to buy LCD for the space it saves alone, plus moving around is easier. Though from what I've read the pro and con seemed to be leaning heavily toward CRT. Anyone wanna defend LCD and tell me what I'm missing?
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  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    edited July 2005
    How could you do that the years of loving radiation that mointer gave to you, and you dump it? poor little thing.

    Also lcd that is not true thats just the cheapp one but they are slightly more fragile..

    Sure to begin with lcd sucked but now now they have evolved so depending on your budget in lcd terms that bit more does go a long long way The one down side i will say is some times the frame rate can be a little slow (might be my pc) but if you pay more you get more simple the colour is great its light small and it was only 250 pounds and its not mind no its my dads <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    b-day pressent >_<
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    whatever subzero's taking i want some of it.
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    LCD > CRT.
    Why?
    They take up less space, use less power, you get a bigger viewing area and an actual sharper picture.

    So long as you get a fairly decent one. If your card supports DVI-D, get a DVI-D monitor. Your eyes will thank you :o

    A 15" LCD is about the same as a 17" CRT in terms of viewing area (ish)
    So yeah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    The picture on a LCD monitor is sharper and clearer, it's not a huge difference but it's noticeable. Getting a LCD with around 14 milliseconds or less response time pretty much eliminates the screen ghosting issues (lower response time = better though). I've never heard anything that said the color was more limited on LCD though I could be misinformed on that.

    All in all the only advantage CRT has is that it's cheaper and has a wider range of resolutions (which I could also be mistaken about). LCD is much smaller and has a better picture quality.

    Edit: forgot about the bigger viewing area, Beast > me but that's also a nice feature
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    edited July 2005
    Hyundai L90D+.

    19 inch LCD with 8 ms response time with true 16.7 million colors AND DVI.

    How much, you ask? 300 USD. A freaking steal in the LCD industry.

    Edit:

    Higher quality LCDs reduce the off-center viewing problems. Besides, when you use a monitor, you're standing right in front of it.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    But you see, who cares about how much power it uses. And when you can buy a really good 21" CRT for the price of 17" LCD, why is viewable areas matter.

    As far as I know, the only advantage it has over CRT right now is the space.

    <a href='http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2005/all_about_monitors.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardwa...ut_monitors.asp</a>

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Resolution & Viewing Quality
    Resolution on a CRT is flexible and a newer model will provide you with viewing resolutions of up to 1600 by 1200 and higher, whereas on an LCD the resolution is fixed within each monitor (called a native resolution). The resolution on an LCD can be changed, but if you're running it at a resolution other than its native resolution you will notice a drop in performance or quality.

    Both types of monitors (newer models) provide bright and vibrant color display. However, LCDs cannot display the maximum color range that a CRT can. In terms of image sharpness, when an LCD is running at its native resolution the picture quality is perfectly sharp. On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus.

    A CRT monitor can be viewed from almost any angle, but with an LCD this is often a problem. When you use an LCD, your view changes as you move different angles and distances away from the monitor. At some odd angles, you may notice the picture fade, and possibly look as if it will disappear from view. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    I claim the holyest of things 1rst post.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That alone is the single greatest advantage of LCD, which you seem to have missed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Jul 21 2005, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Jul 21 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That alone is the single greatest advantage of LCD, which you seem to have missed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still going for CRT right now for the sake of the screen-size/price.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 02:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Jul 21 2005, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Jul 21 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That alone is the single greatest advantage of LCD, which you seem to have missed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still going for CRT right now for the sake of the screen-size/price. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, it's your call. It's all a matter of personal taste really.
  • Mad_ManMad_Man Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17359Members, Constellation
    a quick search on newegg found a good <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001178' target='_blank'>samsung</a> and a good <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116282' target='_blank'>viewsonic</a>
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rapier7+Jul 21 2005, 02:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rapier7 @ Jul 21 2005, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hyundai L90D+.

    19 inch LCD with 8 ms response time with true 16.7 million colors AND DVI.

    How much, you ask? 300 USD. A freaking steal in the LCD industry.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm posting right now with that very monitor. It's a killer deal <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Edit: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179014' target='_blank'>Here we are</a>.

    Editedit: 2000!
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gadzuko+Jul 21 2005, 03:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Jul 21 2005, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That alone is the single greatest advantage of LCD, which you seem to have missed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The quote from the site mentioned earlier can be found <a href='http://www.vartechsystems.com/pressroom/aprnewsletter2003/crt-lcd-comparison.htm' target='_blank'>here</a>, with an addition:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->[CRTs are] <b>Normally sharper than LCDs</b> (except when the LCD is at it's native resolution). Sharpness can be reduced by images with softer edges, flawed focus and color registration.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    With LCDs you're stuck in one resolution to get that picture quality. I don't use only one resolution.

    Buying a good CRT model from a good manufacturer will likely negate the problems mentioned.

    Because of the price, lack of consistent picture quality in various resolutions, color accuracy, color gamut, contrast, ghosting, bad pixels, and small viewing angle, I'd go with a CRT over an LCD.
  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    <a href='http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=lcd&word2=crt' target='_blank'>Need we more proof?</a>
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Not to mention LCD screens (And Anti-Aliasing for some reason) make my eyes go all funny.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    I picked up my LCD for very cheap, 17", native resolution of 1280x1024, and a response time of 16MS (if I remember correctly.)

    Ghosting is somewhat noticable, but really, I only notice if I'm looking for it, and I stopped taking idle notice of it after a week of use. Great picture, nice native res, all in all it's a nice monitor. Just don't expect to use your LCD monitor in anything but its native res. I can't play old games 'cuz of that. Looks too horrible if it's not 1280x1024.

    Only big issue is viewing angle. If you're not level with the screen, it's dark. Very dark. Though, it helped my posture out. Just can't really lean back in your chair without turning your contrast up. I'd recommend an LCD monitor. CRT has few advantages, and ones I can live without.
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    aha! that would really screw me up. i play pretty much NOTHING but old games nowadays. or games that come only come in specific resolutions (mostly 800x600)

    But i also use a lot of programs that need high res displays (such as Photoshop and 3dsmax) So really, I'm sticking with my lovely little CRT moniter. *huggles*




    Who stores stuff behind their LCD anyway?
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Note that playing windowed gets around the res issue, but often times that's not an option either. I play most of my games windowed though, so that may be a big issue for fullscreeners. -shrug-
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sub zer0+Jul 21 2005, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sub zer0 @ Jul 21 2005, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=lcd&word2=crt' target='_blank'>Need we more proof?</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quit spamming, you're not funny.

    I would just stick with CRT. The advantages far outweigh the advantages of LCD screens.
  • BaconTheoryBaconTheory Join Date: 2003-09-06 Member: 20615Members
    CRTs are huge and heavy as you well know. They do indeed have less viewable area than LCD monitors. However, there ar some differences:

    <b>CRT</b> - Less viewable area than LCD, bulky, heavy, unsightly, cheaper than LCDs, better for gaming than office work

    <b>LCD</b> - Greater viewable area, pretty, compact/light, sharp colours and crisp text, better for office work and most LCDs blur at high framerates when gaming

    Really, it's all a matter of personal preference. If you plan on doing a lot of high-fps gaming, then you might be better off with a nice 19-inch flat CRT. If you want to do office work and work with Photoshop and other imaging programs, then you should get an LCD. However, you can get a nice LCD like the <a href='http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=232385' target='_blank'>Samsung Syncmaster 915N</a> with a fast 8ms response times, which is great for games and what I'm getting soon.
  • Omega_DeathOmega_Death Sith apprentice to a box of Cereal Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19042Members
    I work at Office Depot and we had this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824014090' target='_blank'>Benq 19" LCD</a> on clearance the other day for $149 after rebates. It was gone in two hours. It went so fast I didn't even know we sold it.
  • Mad_ManMad_Man Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17359Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Omega Death+Jul 21 2005, 07:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omega Death @ Jul 21 2005, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I work at Office Depot and we had this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824014090' target='_blank'>Benq 19" LCD</a> on clearance the other day for $149 after rebates. It was gone in two hours. It went so fast I didn't even know we sold it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That looks nice, its 8ms but is it ajustable? I like my monitor aiming down inistead of up =/
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-DrSuredeath+Jul 21 2005, 01:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DrSuredeath @ Jul 21 2005, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But you see, who cares about how much power it uses. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    People who pay their own electric bill?
  • Rapier7Rapier7 Join Date: 2004-02-05 Member: 26108Members
    CRTs draw in a lot of power. In fact, you can actually make a bomb out of it.

    And NEVER, EVER try opening up your CRT. Chances are you'd die or risk severe injury.

    Right now, if you have around 300 to drop on a monitor, there's no reason not to get a LCD.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mad Man+Jul 21 2005, 01:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mad Man @ Jul 21 2005, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> a quick search on newegg found a good <a href='http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001178' target='_blank'>samsung</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm planning on buying this one to go with my new computer. CRT all the way, baby!
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    I'd never go back to CRT. My eyes would punish me. Somehow. Probably by extreme itching.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+Jul 21 2005, 09:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ Jul 21 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd never go back to CRT. My eyes would punish me. Somehow. Probably by extreme itching. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You set up your CRT monitor improperly, or you got a bad model.
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    A digital picture just looks more crisp, period.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I got a 19" LCD about 4 days ago. I love this thing. No ghosting, contrast or color problems, or ugly interpolating. I can easily run my desktop at the native resolution of 1280x1024, and games look fine even at non-native resolutions. Intense Battlefield 2 action results in no dissatisfaction, and unless you're a graphic designer who has to worry about stuff being printed out, an LCD will work perfectly for all your color needs. Just make sure you get a good one: a bad one will get ya ghosting galore and stuff like that. A faster response time doesn't always mean better; make sure you try out the monitor.
  • DiazoDiazo Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25825Members
    LCD > CRT any day, reason? LCD is a <b>LOT</b> easier on the eyes.

    For me, if I try to go more then 2 hours straight on a CRT monitor, I'll give myself a heacache for sure. Using an LCD montior, I have yet to get a headache after using it, and that includes more then one 6-8 hour session.

    Yes, on paper the CRT does look better because they are priced lower, but an LCD's two biggest advantages (to me), how clear and crisp the picture is, and it being much easier on the eyes, can't be listed on a specification sheet.

    LCD is all I'll ever buy again.

    Diazo
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