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  • MentarMentar Join Date: 2004-08-03 Member: 30321Members Posts: 249
    ^

    that's what i want to know too.
  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members Posts: 898
    Patches are an object you can put in the Q3 and Doom3 engines. basically they make it EXTREMELY easy to make terribly complex curves and other odd shapes. It's better I show you.

    I took a few pics while I was making a map called Sanctum of Poseidon so I could explain it to Naigel, so I'll use the same ones.
    1 - that's a patch. 2 - those are all the faces it uses. Try making that in hammer. biggrin-fix.gif 3 - and those are the verticies I had to set.

    So basically I was able to make that complex arch in about 30 seconds. That's why I think patches are the most incredible mapping tool I've ever used, or at least one of them.
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    QUOTE(moultano @ Jul 15 2005, 02:29 PM)
    Man . . . . HL mapping FTL.

    QuestionalableContent, #520: Man, I'd be the worst praying mantis ever. "Oh sure, you can bite my head off without mating with me, I understand. You have ISSUES."
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation Posts: 2,395 mod
    edited July 2005
    Contest ends August 5th, that should be enough to make these look great. When its over maybe i can get it changed into a poll so it can be voted on which one is the best. Updated rules page with all the info.

    connor, forboding looks cool, can't wait to see it with textures and lighting if you decide to go further.


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    I'm not really sure if that's within the boundaries of the contest or not, I just had to spruce things up a bit. btw, I really think you should put an end date on the contest, if that is truely what this is, a contest.


    sure, just as long as its recognizable as that area from the map and has a similar layout.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts Posts: 4,219 Advanced user
    edited July 2005
    QUOTE (Belgarion @ Jul 15 2005, 01:56 PM)
    Patches are an object you can put in the Q3 and Doom3 engines. basically they make it EXTREMELY easy to make terribly complex curves and other odd shapes. It's better I show you.

    I took a few pics while I was making a map called Sanctum of Poseidon so I could explain it to Naigel, so I'll use the same ones.
    1 - that's a patch.  2 - those are all the faces it uses. Try making that in hammer.  biggrin-fix.gif  3 - and those are the verticies I had to set.

    So basically I was able to make that complex arch in about 30 seconds. That's why I think patches are the most incredible mapping tool I've ever used, or at least one of them.

    Man . . . . HL mapping FTL.
    I haven't done any mapping for anything else since the original unreal, and even that editor was worlds more powerful and easier to use than hammer . . .
    Man, Valve needs to get their **** together.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation Posts: 3,225
    To be fair they haven't changed WorldCraft that much since Quake. I haven't looked at Hammer for Source, so I only know about a few basic techniques from trolling on HL.net
  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation Posts: 1,417
    QUOTE (moultano @ Jul 15 2005, 08:29 PM)
    Man, Valve needs to get their **** together.

    Your only just realising this?!

    I though every one who had even looked at HL2 had realised this months ago wink-fix.gif
  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members Posts: 898
    edited July 2005
    yeah anyway, more on the topic of the thread, I've pretty much finished my entry. Still some more light tweaking to do, but getting close.

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    QUOTE(moultano @ Jul 15 2005, 02:29 PM)
    Man . . . . HL mapping FTL.

    QuestionalableContent, #520: Man, I'd be the worst praying mantis ever. "Oh sure, you can bite my head off without mating with me, I understand. You have ISSUES."
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation Posts: 3,225
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor Posts: 2,175
    edited July 2005
    QUOTE (aeroripper @ Jul 14 2005, 02:37 PM)
    Also to note those doom3 screenshots of eclipse don't look good :-P.

    Well, heaven forbid a couple hours of off-and-on work (so far) spread over a couple nights on top of a more-than-full-time job and pregnant wife at home be less than perfect... Hell, the only lights are default sized placeholder lights just to test the normal maps and texture tones. Patience man, patience! There's a reason it's filed under "work in progress!" tounge.gif

    PS: Quick tip, it must be said - All major geometry in Eclipse is on at least a 16 if not 32 or 64 grid where it could be managed. All 45 degree angles are formed with a 2/1 slope from the 90 degree piece to the 45. Most hallways are 192 units tall. If anyone needs/wants reference of an area, I can give you grid snapshots/references. Eclipse not on a precise grid makes me die a little inside. sad-fix.gif
  • BijiyBijiy Fantastic Damage Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23697Members Posts: 1,417
    Interesting Belg, pretty damn nice. KFS I'd like to see these grid shots, I've always liked the angles on your maps.
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  • ZephorZephor Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11547Members, Constellation Posts: 527
    edited July 2005
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  • ZephorZephor Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11547Members, Constellation Posts: 527
    Here is what I have right now confused-fix.gif not as good as the rest of you guys.

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    Hopefully I can figure out this whole window and skybox thing. sad-fix.gif
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  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation Posts: 3,225
    Is the 3D skybox brushwork then? I always assumed it was modelled...

    I'll be looking forward to seeing how that turns out Zeph, don't get cold feet and leave it unfinished now :rolltothemax:
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation Posts: 2,395 mod
    edited July 2005
    wow bleg that looks great, alls it needs is a fan at the top of that thing in the ceiling with a light bloom :-D that would look awesome, zeph got a good start as well, what area was that again?

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    Well, heaven forbid a couple hours of off-and-on work (so far) spread over a couple nights on top of a more-than-full-time job and pregnant wife at home be less than perfect... Hell, the only lights are default sized placeholder lights just to test the normal maps and texture tones. Patience man, patience! There's a reason it's filed under "work in progress!"


    I wasn't meaning for it to be insulting, i just never like the darker than dark shadows in doom3 engine smile-fix.gif.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor Posts: 2,175
    QUOTE (aeroripper @ Jul 15 2005, 10:38 PM)
    I wasn't meaning for it to be insulting, i just never like the dark than dark shadows in doom3 engine smile-fix.gif.

    Well, let me light it before you pass judgment! wink-fix.gif

    Anywho, didn't take it too seriously or anything, but thought I should defend myself, as well as offer referencing services. smile-fix.gif Bijiy, I'll see what I can dig up. It's nothing complex, really, but I figure if people are going to be re-making things they might as well have a frame of reference on some pieces!
  • ZephorZephor Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11547Members, Constellation Posts: 527
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    Another update tounge.gif I have a skybox but not a dark one...so lets pretend that it is really sunny up there in ayumi


    yeah I learned how to do lights and a skybox and glass from the pts. smile-fix.gif Progress is going well. I should maybe have snow or something soon.


    Btw ripper, that is Cold Turn on ns_ayumi.
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn "War is the science of destruction" - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members Posts: 1,965
    Damn, i wish mapping was easier...i almost got done with a readyroom once, but then had to reformat...lol. sad-fix.gif

    Anyways, im going to give yet another crack at it and try out something, probably Pressure hive in ayumi... asrifle.gif
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  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members Posts: 898
    Zeph, make sure you're thinking about how you can make it look *better*, not just reproducing it. Keep that firmly in mind as you progress and it's going to come out great (as long as technique doesn't get in your way).
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    QUOTE(moultano @ Jul 15 2005, 02:29 PM)
    Man . . . . HL mapping FTL.

    QuestionalableContent, #520: Man, I'd be the worst praying mantis ever. "Oh sure, you can bite my head off without mating with me, I understand. You have ISSUES."
  • Dislexic_LlamaDislexic_Llama Join Date: 2005-04-03 Member: 47390Members Posts: 9
    edited July 2005
    That's always my problem, I lack the technique. I start off mapping every brush with the same texture, wanting to finish the level before applying textures/lights/entities and basically any freaking detail! Ends up making my map an amalgamation of corridors, ramps and stairs; This, of course, compared to the phenomenal mappers on these forums is enough to shatter the little confidence I had left in my map.

    Sigh the world of a noob sad-fix.gif

    (edit) To be on-topic: good work guys! Great talent participating here, Atmos looks shweet even on non-ns texts biggrin-fix.gif
  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation Posts: 2,395 mod
    i know how ya feel llama, i've made a few "okay" maps but never really got into anything real advanced. I'm trying to add more detail to my little corrider but i think i just picked a bad area haha.

    I still think cold turn looks cool even if it is the same, using the new particle effects in source for weather (don't remember quite how it worked, its a particles or sprites?) would look cool.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2005
    QUOTE (aeroripper @ Jul 15 2005, 10:38 PM)
    wow bleg that looks great, alls it needs is a fan at the top of that thing in the ceiling with a light bloom :-D that would look awesome, zeph got a good start as well, what area was that again?

    The name of Zeph's section has been mentioned by someone in this thread, albeit very indirectly nerd-fix.gif
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    I'll be looking forward to seeing how that turns out Zeph, don't get cold feet and leave it unfinished now :rolltothemax:
  • frostymoosefrostymoose Join Date: 2003-09-12 Member: 20799Members Posts: 852
    edited July 2005
    Don't kill yourself if you can't map with hammer. IT SUCKS.

    KFS - Think that if you keep working on this you'll eventually adjust the colors of those textures to beige (?) or whatever color you'd describe it as...

    edit: now this is incredibly nerdy but... ever see kolby jukes around the office? He's quite possibly my favorite 3d artist of all time tounge.gif
  • FreddehFreddeh Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18520Members, Constellation Posts: 258
    belgs pic makes me want to play ns:s now tounge.gif
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    QUOTE (Vermillion @ Mar 26 2005, 06:20 PM)
    damn i cant post links due to the fact the web name has a cuss word in it
  • HammerTwentyTwoHammerTwentyTwo Join Date: 2005-04-19 Member: 48892Members Posts: 12
    Ok I've decided to do Main Aft Junction on Bast as my one room biggrin-fix.gif

    This is what i've got so far, this is about 45/50 mins work so far, I ain't to good at mapping tounge.gif

    Anyway:

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    Like, hate?
  • NaigelNaigel Join Date: 2003-07-23 Member: 18376Members, Constellation Posts: 651
    WILL IT INCLUDE THE REVOLVING DOOR?!!!!!!!
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  • HammerTwentyTwoHammerTwentyTwo Join Date: 2005-04-19 Member: 48892Members Posts: 12
    I can add a none moving revolving door! tounge.gif
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members Posts: 1,594
    QUOTE (Belgarion @ Jul 15 2005, 01:56 PM)
    Patches are an object you can put in the Q3 and Doom3 engines. basically they make it EXTREMELY easy to make terribly complex curves and other odd shapes. It's better I show you.

    I took a few pics while I was making a map called Sanctum of Poseidon so I could explain it to Naigel, so I'll use the same ones.
    1 - that's a patch. 2 - those are all the faces it uses. Try making that in hammer. biggrin-fix.gif 3 - and those are the verticies I had to set.

    So basically I was able to make that complex arch in about 30 seconds. That's why I think patches are the most incredible mapping tool I've ever used, or at least one of them.

    *asks himself why he is still mapping for hl*

    hl2 had been one of the most disappointing games this year, especially if the hype got you. I nearly felt off my chair when I realized, that hl2 isnt the "big shot". I exspected the new some new advanced vhe options to create more complex maps like we see them every day in ut or quake.

    very nice work belgarion.

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  • HammerTwentyTwoHammerTwentyTwo Join Date: 2005-04-19 Member: 48892Members Posts: 12
    Hmm, there seems to be a distinct lack of tutorials for doing lighting in source it seems confused-fix.gif

    All i can find are them dynamic lights that swing, is there no way of lighting maps using the light.rad like in Half-Life 1 mapping?
  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester Posts: 2,117 Advanced user
    well, i have a few days off from work. starting tomarrow. at 5. so i guess i'll be making an entry.

    i think i have a nice place picked out.
  • ZephorZephor Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11547Members, Constellation Posts: 527
    edited July 2005
    I think 3d environments are cool. Too bad I got the only outdoor map ^_^
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